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Post by Sal Vella » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:53 am

When will we be able to see the overall standings for the 100 thousand dollar prize?
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Post by kgrady » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:36 pm

I am also curious as to where/how we can see the rosters and draft results from the other leagues.



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Post by Plymouth » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:33 am

My guess is that you will not see any overall standings until one cycle has passed and that will be on Monday.

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:39 am

I was ready to proclaim the winner of the NFBC over the first two days when I realized the overall standings weren't complete yesterday. Bummer. But I talked with STATS and they are still finalizing the look of that page since it's obviously going to be extremely long. We will likely have one page that lists the overall standings for the 195 teams, listing points for hitting and pitching, and then there will be a link to each of the 10 categories, again with listings for each category up to 195. STATS should have this done no later than tomorrow.



We apologize for the slight delay, but we'll have this done soon. By the real Opening Day all listings for league standings, overall standings and Weekly standings (remember the Upper Deck weekly contest) will be available for your viewing. And I want the person who is leading the overall contest to stand up proud and proclaim his/her excellence. Be loud and be proud!!!
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Post by Legend7 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:06 am

Greg,



Just got off the phone with the Wall St Journal folks (they were at the draft in New York and did and interview with me there). They did a subsequent follow-up interview this week(on the phone). The article comes out tommorrow, should be great publicity for the NFBC. The "Bud Frogs" (although it's only two games lol) lead New York League #1, so I guess that'll give me a one in 13 shot at being the first (ever) overall leader (and wouldn't that be nice). :cool:
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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:04 pm

Yes, I know that article is running tomorrow. Sam Walker was at the MLB.com draft in New York on Monday and continued to ask more questions. He called on Wednesday and asked to see Meat Loaf's NFBC team. We can only hope that he applauds Meat's picks.



Someone shoot the link to the story on this thread tomorrow.
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Post by King of Queens » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:29 am

From The Wall Street Journal, 4/2/04:



Extreme Head Games



Fantasy Baseballers Go Way Out;

Why Meat Loaf Called Don Mattingly

April 2, 2004; Page W1



Donald Haworth has spent the last few weeks studying baseball players 14 hours a day, taking copious notes at spring training and running up $3,000 in research expenses. But Mr. Haworth isn't a Major League executive. He's a Florida air-traffic controller who's scouting players for his "rotisserie" baseball team.



With the Major League season opening, now is the time when the game's most obsessive fans set aside work and family to focus on the parallel universe of fantasy leagues -- where fans pick their own dream teams and pit them against teams chosen by friends. One New York banker enlisted a Harvard statistician to help him run player numbers. Rock star Meat Loaf jetted back from a tour in New Zealand last month to attend a fantasy draft in Las Vegas. And with some national competitions offering prizes of as much as $100,000, more people like Mr. Haworth are approaching the fantasy game like pros. So far this year, he's drafted 41 teams.



"There's no point in being a dilettante," says Mario Cuomo, the former New York governor and a longtime rotisserie player. If you want to succeed in this game, he says, "you have to develop a compulsion."



Fantasy baseball owners spent a record $179 apiece last year on Web sites, entry fees, books and magazines -- a 12% increase over the previous year. And while polls suggest three million Americans play some form of fantasy baseball, it's not just a pastime for bored adolescents and the underemployed: According to the Fantasy Sports Trade Association, the average "rotohead" is about 40 with a household income of $90,000.



For those who've never played, the premise is pretty simple. Typical rotisserie leagues have roughly a dozen "owners" who gather at the beginning of the season, online or in person, to pick teams. During the season, trades are usually allowed and free agents can be acquired. Come October, the owner whose collection of hitters and pitchers compiles the best overall stats wins. Though games based on baseball statistics have existed for decades, rotisserie, the most widely played version, made its debut in 1980.



The problem for obsessives: There's no limit to the research you can do. Good fantasy managers not only know the historical stats of hundreds of major leaguers, they study minor leaguers, too. Some drafts can take 10 hours, and during the season, players have to follow their team every day to keep an eye on roster moves. Also, since fantasy leagues give every owner the same auction budget or drafting power, the name of the game isn't money, but information. With the Internet offering everyone the same instant news, the only way to get an edge is to come up with a smarter analysis than the next guy.



Making Adjustments



For Hal Cohen, it's a numbers game. Armed with years of data and the expertise of his partner, a Harvard-trained statistician, the New York bank vice president tries to measure the underlying value of players by coming up with "categorical weights" based on "linear regressions" and making adjustments from a "risk index." To throw off his league-mates, Mr. Cohen has sent letters to prominent fantasy-baseball publications asking questions about phony draft plans he never intends to use. When one of them gets published, he says, "it gives me a lot of banter to use at the draft."



Other fantasy managers prefer to do their own scouting. Law student Alex Dick flew to spring training in Arizona last week to get a firsthand look at pitchers he was interested in drafting, keeping a special eye on their rate of strikeouts per nine innings. During his league draft in a conference room at a Phoenix Embassy Suites, he snapped up one of the pitchers who'd caught his eye -- San Diego's Jake Peavy. Hours later at the ballpark, as Mr. Peavy finished pitching to the Chicago Cubs, Mr. Dick shouted the following message: "Yeah, Jake Peavy! You're my boy, Peavy!"



It also pays to know the right people. When Tom Whelan picked obscure Cleveland outfielder Jody Gerut in his fantasy draft last year, he wound up looking like a genius. But he got the tip from an impeccable source: old friend Bob Cluck, the pitching coach for the Detroit Tigers. Meat Loaf, too, has his own friend in a high place -- New York Yankees hitting coach Don Mattingly. Did Donnie Baseball deliver the goods when Mr. Loaf called? "That," says Mr. Mattingly, "would be insider trading."



Some fantasy leagues spare no expense on draft day. With members commuting in from Boston and Philadelphia, the 16-year-old Delta Beta League rented a conference room at a New Jersey Ramada Inn. And the menu wasn't exactly beer and wings. The night began with hors d'oeuvres and chicken francese and ended with Tapa Negra cigars and two $150 bottles of wine. "We don't mess around," says league commissioner Dave Taus.



One downside of draft season is that some people have to scramble to find time. Irwin Zwilling, who has won several "expert" rotisserie leagues, is also the senior partner at an accounting firm that handles 600 personal tax returns. Meanwhile, Virginia child-welfare advocate Betty Wade Coyle has developed the ultimate time-saving system. Her team, the Wet T-Shirts, usually finishes in the top three, even though April is Child Abuse Prevention Month, her busiest time of the year. How does she pick her players? "I check the Internet to make sure nobody had a leg fall off," she says. "Then I just toss coins."

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Post by Rey » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:53 am

Hal Cohen = Gordon Gekko??????????

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Post by a » Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:10 am

That was my first thought too.
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Post by Walla Walla » Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:59 am

Here again, the Wal Mart Street Jornual makes fun of the players. This is from a paper that pumps blowing your money on stocks with the promise of living happily ever after. Ooops that last crash

was just a bump. Sorry you lost your life savings. F##K Them!

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:57 am

STATS says the overall standings will be live this afternoon. Congratulate the owner with Jorge Posada who will be leading the competition after the first two games when his/her name appears in our debut overall standings. Good luck everyone!!!
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Post by Jon_Ashton » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:03 pm

It doesn't seem up yet...

Where should we be looking for it? I'd assume on the league page under "Standings" but when clicking on standings, only league, not overall standings are available.

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Post by Jon_Ashton » Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:44 am

It's there now. Funny thing is the 1st place team didn't even have Posada, but did have Toby Hall, Jose Cruz and Hideki Matsui.

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