lv 1 illegal lineup

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:54 am

there seems to be a team in lasvegas league 1 with an illegal lineup. team is flattops 8 of and 4 2b, i see no way this team can get a leagal line up with the listed players on his roster now

steve · Post by **steve** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:17 am

he can fix it with the free agent pool by march 25th

steve · Post by **steve** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:17 am

stop ratting out a team?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:35 am

Originally posted by KLN:

there seems to be a team in lasvegas league 1 with an illegal lineup. team is flattops 8 of and 4 2b, i see no way this team can get a leagal line up with the listed players on his roster now We're looking into this one. If he does not have a legal lineup, he will have to cut his final pick and pick up a player right now at the position he is missing. The facilitator should have seen that and corrected that before he signed off on his team. We'll get this figured out. Thanks.

First free agent period is next week, with first free agents being assigned on Sunday, April 1st.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:46 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

We're looking into this one. If he does not have a legal lineup, he will have to cut his final pick and pick up a player right now at the position he is missing. The facilitator should have seen that and corrected that before he signed off on his team. We'll get this figured out. Thanks.

greg - please don't let the owner PICK whatever guy he wants at the position. i believe KP should assign him the worst player available at that position. he should not benefit because he couldn't field a proper lineup.

Cherokee Nation · Post by **Cherokee Nation** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:49 am

If that's true how did all of the other teams and the facilitator miss it.

We always get the "you can draft your last starter in the 30th round if you want but you must have a valid starting lineup by drafts conclusion", speech at every draft.

If a dude drafted all OFs and 2Bs, creating artificial shortages, he'd have an illegal team and would have changed the outcomes of all the other drafters.

How could they not notice that ?

Doesn't sound right

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:52 am

I talked to Oscar and contacted STATS and they'll make the move and get his lineup legal. He'll drop his last pick (Farnsworth) and pick up Hatteberg so he can fill the last legal spot on his lineup.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:08 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

I talked to Oscar and contacted STATS and they'll make the move and get his lineup legal. He'll drop his last pick (Farnsworth) and pick up Hatteberg so he can fill the last legal spot on his lineup. Tom, not to make a big stink about this, but Hatteberg starts for Cincinnati. Shouldn't this team get someone like Phil Nevin (who is out of baseball) for that spot?

Dickie V · Post by **Dickie V** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:13 am

I am in LV1 and I strongly protest the move that Tom and Greg just made in regards to allowing team Flattops to acquire S Hatteberg ( at no cost) in order for him to have a "legal roster". I just don't feel this is fairest move to everyone not only in LV1 but to all the players in the NFBC. I am sure some us had to pass on a certain player to acquire another just to insure we had a leagl roster. I for one was go to bid on Hatteberg in the first Faab cycle and now Flattops get him at no cost. Not right Dickie V

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:14 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

I talked to Oscar and contacted STATS and they'll make the move and get his lineup legal. He'll drop his last pick (Farnsworth) and pick up Hatteberg so he can fill the last legal spot on his lineup. Tom, not to make a big stink about this, but Hatteberg starts for Cincinnati. Shouldn't this team get someone like Phil Nevin (who is out of baseball) for that spot? [/QUOTE]It should've been caught onsite Glenn. Had it been caught there we would have done the exact same thing - have him cut his last player (in this case Farnsworth) and replace him with a player who had not been drafted. Hatteberg was not drafted and would have been available to him on Saturday if it had been caught like it should have been. So no difference in terms of how we're handling it now and how we would've handled it then. If anyone wanted Hatteberg, they had 30 chances to draft him on Saturday.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:15 am

Originally posted by Dickie V:

I am in LV1 and I strongly protest the move that Tom and Greg just made in regards to allowing team Flattops to acquire S Hatteberg ( at no cost) in order for him to have a "legal roster". I just don't feel this is fairest move to everyone not only in LV1 but to all the players in the NFBC. I am sure some us had to pass on a certain player to acquire another just to insure we had a leagl roster. I for one was go to bid on Hatteberg in the first Faab cycle and now Flattops get him at no cost. Not right Dickie V As I explained below Dickie, it is fair. If you wanted Hatteberg you had 30 chances to draft him in that league. Nobody drafted him which means he was available after the draft to be picked up by Oscar when it became known his lineup was illegal.

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:15 am

Dickie V, im not in your league but TOTALLY agree with you. It was the owners responsibility to draft a legal lineup. That should should and can make their lineup legal by making a free agent acquisition, using a portion of their $1000 budget

Dickie V · Post by **Dickie V** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:21 am

Tom we can argue this point all day. I know you had to make a decision on this matter. You are the decider : ). But I just don't feel it is right or fair. Make that team suffer through one game...then acquire a CI player in the first cycle. I for one was going to make that team pay for Hatteberg. Dickie V

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:22 am

Originally posted by Dickie V:

Tom we can argue this point all day. I know you had to make a decision on this matter. You are the decider : ). But I just don't feel it is right or fair. Make that team suffer through one game...then acquire a CI player in the first cycle. I for one was going to make that team pay for Hatteberg. Dickie V I understand your point but again, this is how we would've handled it onsite and how we have handled such issues in the past when we've seen teams did not have legal lineups onsite. The mistake was not catching it there.

Dickie V · Post by **Dickie V** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:25 am

Tom i'll let it go...but I just dont think it was the fairest move thats all. Now if you were to assign this team Travis Lee--now thats different. sorry to bug ya Dickie V

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:28 am

Did Oscar get his choice of first basemen, or was he "assigned" Hatteberg? If assigned, what were the criteria used to determine that it would be Hatteberg to replace Farnsworth?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:38 am

I know this won't amount to a hill of beans later but the guy should be penalized. Otherwise, what is to prevent this from happening in the future?

The fix should be minor as it may have an error of omission. My thought is that Farnsworth be kept on his roster, that way it forces the Manager to at least spend faab dollars to make up for his boo boo.

flattops · Post by **flattops** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:38 am

Guys, I accept full responsibility for this and I should have known better considering this is my third year in the NFBC. What happened was I penciled in a first baseman in my CI slot but the guy was picked before it got to me and I forgot to erase his name. So when I did a final check before my last pick, I thought I was good to go.

Tom, you can take out $100.00 from my FAAB as a penalty or better off just assign me a non-starter CI then I'll just try to acquire a starter in the free agent pool.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:40 am

OK Oscar, we'll take you up on your offer. You won't be charged any amount from your FAAB but you'll get Phil Nevin instead of Hatteberg.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:50 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

OK Oscar, we'll take you up on your offer. You won't be charged any amount from your FAAB but you'll get Phil Nevin instead of Hatteberg. Seems like a fair solution, Tom. Thank you, and to Oscar as well.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:51 am

I am a member of LV1. That said, Gosh! Who cares!

As a penalty to all of you, I'm bidding $200 on Scott Hatteberg.

steve · Post by **steve** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:14 am

I am not in his league but he had 1 minute to choice not 1 week!!!!!!,,,I agree he should be penalized with a phil nevin for the first period as another team suggested. Why should he benefit from his error?.

Dickie V · Post by **Dickie V** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:30 am

with that team bjoak.....you better

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:51 am

CI's for BAM

Howard

Beltre

Kouzmanoff

Iwamura

You must have my team confused with someone elses. I am the guy you will be looking up at all season saying I could have beat him if I only had Scott Hatteburg on my team. I will be the other guy.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:32 am

Scott Hatteberg was scratched from Thursday's lineup with a tender groin muscle.

Hatteberg, who is batting .250/.350/.486 this spring, is day-to-day.

Hmmm...Nevin is looking better and better.