YTD stat shortcomings

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:08 am

using a popular website with YTD projections, here are the YTD stats for my qualifying team (23 players) from the online draft. assuming these guys play all year. :rolleyes:

R 1093

HR 298

RBI 1188

SB 180

BA .282

W 97

S 71

K 1231

ERA 3.84

WHIP 1.24

how far am i off?

[ April 03, 2009, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: KentuckyReign ]

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:11 am

Originally posted by KentuckyReign:

using a popular website with YTD projections, here are the YTD stats for my best team from the online draft. assuming these guys play all year. :rolleyes:

R 1093

HR 298

RBI 1188

SB 180

BA .282

W 97

S 71

K 1231

ERA 3.84

WHIP 1.24

how far am i off? I smell Babinga wood here! Looks good! Make sure Greg has your address for the check

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:14 am

what site did you use:

www.inflated2009baseballstats.com

DAMN THATS IMPRESSIVE, these 12 league teams are stacked!

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:16 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

what site did you use:

www.inflated2009baseballstats.com

DAMN THATS IMPRESSIVE, these 12 league teams are stacked! the updated projections from "HQ" today.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:18 am

Originally posted by KentuckyReign:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

what site did you use:

www.inflated2009baseballstats.com

DAMN THATS IMPRESSIVE, these 12 league teams are stacked! the updated projections from "HQ" today. [/QUOTE]post your team or pm me and i'll show you where HQ projections are wrong

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:21 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KentuckyReign:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

what site did you use:

www.inflated2009baseballstats.com

DAMN THATS IMPRESSIVE, these 12 league teams are stacked! the updated projections from "HQ" today. [/QUOTE]post your team or pm me and i'll show you where HQ projections are wrong [/QUOTE]i understand marc, i'm going to plug them in with other projections too. i just wasn't sure how those stats stood up in the 12 team vs 15 team leagues.

bill

[ April 03, 2009, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: KentuckyReign ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:23 am

Originally posted by KentuckyReign:

i understand marc, i'm going to plug them in with other projections too. i just wasn't sure how those stats stood up in the 12 team vs 15 team leagues.

bill if those stats are legit, that would make you a contender. i can weed through all the BS projections and give you the GG projections if you'd like...

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:27 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KentuckyReign:

i understand marc, i'm going to plug them in with other projections too. i just wasn't sure how those stats stood up in the 12 team vs 15 team leagues.

bill if those stats are legit, that would make you a contender. i can weed through all the BS projections and give you the GG projections if you'd like... [/QUOTE]I think he's really good on RBI-SB-W-SV. He's OK on HR-AVG-WHIP. He falls short on R-ERA-K's

IMO based on my targets I think it will take to win it???

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:36 am

here's the team in question

c-b molina

c-g soto

ib-j morneau

2b-alexi ramirez

ss-j rollins

3b-a gordon

cm-adam laroche

mi-e andrus

ut-dan murphy

of-c beltran

of-j damon

of-j bruce

of-r ludwick

of-x nady

hitting reserves-m mora, as cabrera, j kubel

sp-j shields

sp-j vazquez

sp-s baker

sp-k kawakami

sp-a sonnanstine

sp-j cueto

sp-s lewis

rp-j nathan

rp-j motte

pitching reserves-k lohse, t wellemeyer, c villanueva, c perez

believe it or not, i'm not a Cardinal pitching fan.

[ April 03, 2009, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: KentuckyReign ]

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:41 am

Just another team in the online drafts.

What sets it apart from others in your mind?

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:43 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Just another team in the online drafts.

What sets it apart from others in your mind? i agree totally DB.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:57 am

hitting based on my projections...

run 1096

hr 267

rbi 1110

sb 137

avg .278-.279

Summary - good rbi/run. hr and sb are lacking. i'm not a big andrus fan, so that is why your sb grade out pretty bad in my system.

i don't do pitcher projections, only an eyeball test.

not enough wins. mid/back-end guys not good enough. your SP might be acceptable in a 15 team league, but not a 12 team league. i do need to mention something good...closers are studs!!

overall - those projections/eyeball test are with morneau and baker missing only a few games. if so, probably finish in the 40th-50th percentile...basically an average team.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:00 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

hitting based on my projections...

run 1096

hr 267

rbi 1110

sb 137

avg .278-.279

Summary - good rbi/run. hr and sb are lacking. i'm not a big andrus fan, so that is why your sb grade out pretty bad in my system.

i don't do pitcher projections, only an eyeball test.

not enough wins. mid/back-end guys not good enough. your SP might be acceptable in a 15 team league, but not a 12 team league. i do need to mention something good...closers are studs!!

overall - those projections/eyeball test are with morneau and baker missing only a few games. if so, probably finish in the 40th-50th percentile...basically an average team. about what i thought and expected.

bill

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EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:12 am

I ran your team for fun and came up with almost 20 more HR and almost 20 more SB than GG, but with a 3 or 4 point lower BA and slightly fewer R/RBI. Probably the same overall outcome for hitting points. However it does seem to be a balanced offense in respect to the categories so you probably could muster up some more hitters thru FABB if needed for Andrus/Murphy/Whoever else might not come thru.

Pitching seems average overall - I'd expect better back end SP's in a 12 team draft.

[ April 03, 2009, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: EliGrimmett ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:14 am

Originally posted by EliGrimmett:

I ran your team for fun and came up with almost 20 more HR and almost 20 more SB than GG, but with a 3 or 4 point lower BA and slightly fewer R/RBI. Probably the same overall outcome for hitting points.

i have bruce, ludwig and morneau disappointing n the hr scene.

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:16 am

I'm in agreement on Morneau and Ludwick. I think Bruce will get his HR's - whether or not his BA comes with it is up in the air.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:17 am

i appreciate the input. i guess we'll just play it out and see, just like everyone else is going to. everybody has an elvis andrus, matt weiters, david price..etc. on their team that can raise the value of their team over a season. josh hamilton, evan longoria and albert pujols made a lot of people winners last year.

being a mediocre team can turn into a winner with luck and good use of the FAAB.

GL to all

bill

[ April 03, 2009, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: KentuckyReign ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:20 am

Originally posted by KentuckyReign:

i appreciate the input. i guess we'll just play it out and see, just like everyone else is going to. everybody has an elvis andrus, matt weiters, david price..etc. on their team that can raise the value of their team over a season. josh hamilton and albert pujols made a lot of people winners last year.

being a mediocre team can turn into a winner with luck and good use of the FAAB.

GL to all

bill of course, that's why they play the games! i commend you for having the balls to post your team. good luck bill!

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:20 am

in 12 team league EVERYONE's team is stacked...

after all we are using a 15 team eye in determining this view, which unfairly sckews the perceived numbers....

Snord35 · Post by **Snord35** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:26 pm

I see Morneau hitting over 30 HR's this year if he is not in the HR Derby! Last year he didn't do good in the 2nd half because of the HR Derby.

Pre 14 post 9

The others in the Derby

Hamilton pre 21 post 11

Berkman pre 22 post 7

Braun pre 23 post 14

Sizemore pre 23 post 10

Uggla pre 23 post 9

Utley pre 25 post 8

Longoria pre 16 post 11

2007

Vlad pre 14 post 13

Rios pre 17 post 7

Holliday pre 15 post 21

Pujols pre 16 post 16

Morneau pre 24 post 7

Fielder pre 29 post 21

Howard pre 21 post 26

Uggla pre 13 post 15

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:16 pm

Very misleading post.

Most players get 100 more at bats before the break.

[ April 05, 2009, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

Snord35 · Post by **Snord35** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:32 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Very misleading post.

Most players get 100 more at bats before the break. Didn't have the time to look up HR/AB before and after the break. Also a lot has to do with the long season. Most players get into a groove in the middle or early part of the season and start to fall off at the end of the season.

[ April 06, 2009, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: Snord35 ]

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:22 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

hitting based on my projections...

run 1096

hr 267

rbi 1110

sb 137

avg .278-.279

Summary - good rbi/run. hr and sb are lacking. i'm not a big andrus fan, so that is why your sb grade out pretty bad in my system.

i don't do pitcher projections, only an eyeball test.

not enough wins. mid/back-end guys not good enough. your SP might be acceptable in a 15 team league, but not a 12 team league. i do need to mention something good...closers are studs!!

overall - those projections/eyeball test are with morneau and baker missing only a few games. if so, probably finish in the 40th-50th percentile...basically an average team. thank god i have CLOSER STUDS