MLB win totals out today...

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:57 pm

Here are the opening OVER/UNDER lines for the upcoming season. (Courtesy of Vegas Watch)...

Anyone factor this into forecasting the win/save totals of their targeted pitchers?

"Thursday, February 25, 2010

2010 MLB Wins Over/Unders

Courtesy of Bookmaker, here are the opening numbers:

Arizona- 82

Atlanta- 86.5

Baltimore- 72.5

Boston- 94

Chicago C- 83

Chicago W- 82

Cincinnati- 78

Cleveland- 73

Colorado- 83

Detroit- 81

Florida- 81

Houston- 77

Kansas City- 71

LA Angels- 84

LA Dodgers- 84

Milwaukee- 80.5

Minnesota- 82

NY Mets- 81

NY Yankees- 94.5

Oakland- 78

Philadelphia- 92

Pittsburgh- 71

St. Louis- 88

San Diego- 71

San Francisco- 83

Seattle- 83

Tampa Bay- 89.5

Texas- 83

Toronto- 71

Washington- 72"

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:03 pm

I don't Lance but I sure think betting the Padres and Royals under is like taking candy from a baby. Those teams are putrid!

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:05 pm

Here they are again sorted via wins...

NY Yankees- 94.5

Boston- 94

Philadelphia- 92

Tampa Bay- 89.5

St. Louis- 88

Atlanta- 86.5

LA Angels- 84

LA Dodgers- 84

Colorado- 83

San Francisco- 83

Seattle- 83

Texas- 83

Chicago C- 83

Chicago W- 82

Arizona- 82

Minnesota- 82

NY Mets- 81

Detroit- 81

Florida- 81

Milwaukee- 80.5

Cincinnati- 78

Oakland- 78

Houston- 77

Cleveland- 73

Washington- 72

Baltimore- 72.5

San Diego- 71

Toronto- 71

Pittsburgh- 71

Kansas City- 71

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:09 pm

I'm thinking "if the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays get such a lofty win total from mopping up non-divisional opponents...maybe the Orioles can too...those guys aren't getting ALL their wins vs. Baltimore!"

I have a funny feeling Baltimore goes over.

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:11 pm

Here are several that I like. Minnesota might be my favorite

LA Angels- 84 OVER

Minnesota- 82 OVER

Florida- 81 OVER

Cincinnati- 78 OVER

Baltimore- 72.5 OVER

Toronto- 71 UNDER

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:33 am

lance, i used to look at these a lot- have not in last 10 years or so. have you ever seen so many teams with around 80 wins or is this pretty much how it has looked?

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:40 am

hard heads- btw betting the worst teams "under" and the best teams "over" are the 2 biggest sucker bets they have in this format. we all "know" they are bad- but how bad is 71 wins? write those down and put them in your pocket. pull it out in october. my guess? 1/2 right and vegas wins.

EA Sports · Post by **EA Sports** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:36 am

The wagers that stick out to me right away are:

#1 SEA Over 83

#2 HOU Under 77

#3 COL Over 83

Thoughts?

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:48 am

Another one that looks like a solid bet is Florida over 81.

They won 87 last year, and are pretty much the same team with more experience for the younger players.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:50 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

lance, i used to look at these a lot- have not in last 10 years or so. have you ever seen so many teams with around 80 wins or is this pretty much how it has looked? I'm pretty sure it's close to this year to year.

That old baseball saying..."every team will win 60 and every team will lose 60"...it's what they do in those other 40 games that will win or lose your bet.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:00 am

thanks, makes sense. think the last time i was paying attention was back when the yanks were winning 100 . just read an article about the angels beating the number pretty easily the last 3-4 years.

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:28 am

Give me Colorado over 83 and Mets under.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:44 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Another one that looks like a solid bet is Florida over 81.

They won 87 last year, and are pretty much the same team with more experience for the younger players. That was my first thought with that young and improving pitching staff.Josh Johnson and Nolasco are young studs and Volstad and Sanchez are great upside pick's.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:17 am

As a Pirates fan, I will take the Pirates UNDER 71.

They almost always find a way to lose 100 or more.

Pitching and hitting are atrocious!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:23 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

As a Pirates fan, I will take the Pirates UNDER 71.

They almost always find a way to lose 100 or more.

Pitching and hitting are atrocious!

Surprisingly Billy, the Pirates have only lost 100+ games TWICE (1985 and 2001) since 1954.

However, your point remains valid -- average of 66 wins the last 5 years, and not a single winning season since the NLCS days of 1990-92.

My condolences!

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:43 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

As a Pirates fan, I will take the Pirates UNDER 71.

They almost always find a way to lose 100 or more.

Pitching and hitting are atrocious!

Surprisingly Billy, the Pirates have only lost 100+ games TWICE (1985 and 2001) since 1954.

However, your point remains valid -- average of 66 wins the last 5 years, and not a single winning season since the NLCS days of 1990-92.

My condolences! [/QUOTE]Really?

I knew about the 18 straight losing seasons, and I could have sworn about 1/2 of them were 100+ loss seasons.

I guess like most Pirate fans I totally lose interest by the All Star break, and just assume they will keep losing.

DoubleX · Post by **DoubleX** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:31 am

Originally posted by emalbright:

The wagers that stick out to me right away are:

#1 SEA Over 83

#2 HOU Under 77

#3 COL Over 83

Thoughts? I am a Stros die hard and there is just no way you could lose if you bet the Under 77.

I like all three of those you selected but The stros won't sniff 72 in that division with their complete lack of depth and holes all over the place.

J. Halenka · Post by **J. Halenka** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:44 pm

I agree with Houston under. Outside of Pittsburgh i think Cinn and Chi are a notch above and Milw and St Louis are much better.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:02 pm

Originally posted by Hard Heads:

I don't Lance but I sure think betting the Padres and Royals under is like taking candy from a baby. Those teams are putrid! Take the over on San Diego.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:05 pm

Originally posted by Red Sox Nation:

Here are several that I like. Minnesota might be my favorite

Florida- 81 OVER

Cincinnati- 78 OVER

After finishing up my NL team projections, I'd go under on both the Fish and Reds.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:07 pm

Originally posted by emalbright:

The wagers that stick out to me right away are:

#2 HOU Under 77

#3 COL Over 83

Thoughts? Agree, Under on HOU.

COL line looks good, pass. Tight division.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:09 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Another one that looks like a solid bet is Florida over 81.

They won 87 last year, and are pretty much the same team with more experience for the younger players. Back half of the rotation stinks, pen is mediocre and the rest of the division looks as good or better than last yr. I think it's a losing season in FLA.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:16 pm

Best bets:

OVER

San Diego 71

Atlanta 86.5

Los Angeles 84

St Louis 88

UNDER

Florida 81

Houston 77

Cincinnati 78

Odds prop bet - San Diego more wins than Florida.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:34 pm

NL pennant longshot - Dbacks 25:1

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:52 am

agree with kj on most. given the consensus; i bet houston is already minus 130 or so on 77 wins. these seem so easy in football- until the season starts. with houston it just seems that they have no way out of the room. no minor league studs, few breakout candidates etc. padres look a lot better to me than most people think.