Need a second pair of eyes

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:33 am

Just curious as to everyone's thoughts. Same rules/scoring as NFBC.

C Lieberthal

C Jav. Valentin

1 Helton

2 Giles

ss Nomar

3b Lowell

mi Counsell

ci Dimitri

of Crawford

of Andruw

of Bonds (6th)

of Dye

of Encarnacion

dh Broussard

p Randy (5th)

p Vazquez

p Oliver Perez

p Escobar

p Clement

p Reitsma

p Turnbow

p Weathers

p MacDougal

b Hinske

b R. Adams

b Zaun

b Bigbie

b Benson

b bentancourt

Any comments will be appreciated

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:24 am

At a quick glance - if Bonds doesn't come back fully this team is toast.

Lowell is also a big question mark for you.

The pitching has a chance although Clement could sink that boat and you don't have much in the way of backup.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:31 am

Three years ago, or more, this would have been a kick-arse team.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:25 am

I have to agree with the first 2 guys- who by the way unlike me actually know what they are talking about.

The offense has no upside to it but is solid in most places. The pitching is a house of cards. I do not have a crystal ball on which pitchers will fold on that team but more than a few will.

If you are drafting in the main event my advice would be to not get as caught up in the big name guys who may be fading a bit.

BTW- I like Bonds as a 6th round pick especially in a winner take all league. I drafted my winner take all leagues a bit differently than I will the main event because IMO you have to take a few more risks.

[ March 01, 2006, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:53 am

I truly believe Lowell will rebound to somewhere between '04 and '03 numbers. I've watched him play alot and he needed to get out of Fla big time. I think I should have enough power and speed to keep me competitive. No doubt I'll need to find a starter via FAAB to round out that rotation.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:19 am

Every team has if's of course, but the weakness to me is are the other categories strong enough to make up for below the middle of the pack Wins and K's (I am not sure five SP's even with Escobar, Randy, and Oliver will get you the K's you need even to make 80% in the category). Three second tier closers (if you consider Turnbow a top tier) and Turnbow will not give you great uplift in ERA/WHIP especially with Weathers and MacDougal.

I like your offense, but there is a lot of age in it.

A lot of potential (don't they all in the beginning) but risky with age/injury risks and closer strategy with people who do not have strong grips on their jobs.

These reviews always sounds like your being trashed, but I hope you do not take it that way. Just an opinion.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:41 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

Any comments will be appreciated 4 out of 10 stars. i expected better.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:05 am

First there was King of Queens.

Then came Edwards Kings.

Now we have TheKing.

There are just too many Kings around here -- it's getting confusing to the common message board reader. Perhaps a new moniker can be created for the newcomer(s).

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:11 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by TheKing:

Any comments will be appreciated 4 out of 10 stars. i expected better. [/QUOTE]I apologize if I didn't live up to your expectations. Good thing this was just a tune up...

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:19 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

I apologize if I didn't live up to your expectations. Good thing this was just a tune up... you are forgiven.

yes, good thing.

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:27 am

Question for Gekko. Please answer honestly. If you've drafted proven, reliable players with your first 5 picks, in what round does drafting Bonds become appealing?

Obviously, a winner-take-all format is a bit different than the main event.

Cooperstown · Post by **Cooperstown** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:41 am

Hey King #3,

Was this a 15 team draft?

What pick were you?

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:48 am

Yeah, 15 teams. I was #7. I went Crawford/Helton.

Cooperstown · Post by **Cooperstown** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:34 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

Yeah, 15 teams. I was #7. I went Crawford/Helton. Helton with the 24th pick is nice.

I took him last year with the 7th pick.

My how things change.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:41 am

Too many questions in the pitching staff. I think the offense is quite solid, though. A much better constructed offense than the pancho thread, but the staff, you need too many things to go right. If I were you I would be concentrating heavily on arms early on, on the waiver wire.

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:48 am

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

Too many questions in the pitching staff. I think the offense is quite solid, though. A much better constructed offense than the pancho thread, but the staff, you need too many things to go right. If I were you I would be concentrating heavily on arms early on, on the waiver wire. Agreed. Much like an auction league where most people devote more of their budget to hitting, I knew going into the draft that I wasn't going to land any of the big stud arms. Starters went early and often (Johan went #3 and Harden went in the second!!). I was happy to get Randy in the 5th. Later in the draft I focused on guys with high k potential on good teams. Vazquez, Escobar, Clement- if these guys can put it together they could very well be 15+ game winners with close to 200 k's.

As in every year, there will be free agent starters that make an impact. Rest assured I'll be on the lookout.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:12 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

Question for Gekko. Please answer honestly. If you've drafted proven, reliable players with your first 5 picks, in what round does drafting Bonds become appealing?

Obviously, a winner-take-all format is a bit different than the main event. there's a bonds strategy, and i'd rather not reveal my cards now. sorry TheKing

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:49 am

Here's the only Bonds strategy you need:

If you can get Bonds in the 6th or later, he will be the steal of the draft.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:55 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

If you can get Bonds in the 6th or later, he will be the steal of the draft. that's certainly a strategy.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:58 am

TheKing/Joe -- I don't see you signed up for the main event. What's the hold-up?

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:02 pm

Still trying to a find a partner. My partner from last year is getting married in September and is taking this year off.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:05 pm

Originally posted by TheKing:

My partner from last year is getting married in September and is taking this year off. Lame excuse for your partner--the wedding is in September!! Are the flower arrangements keeping him busy this March?

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:41 pm

Its more of a money thing. We're both 25 and not where we'll eventually be financially. I'm confident though. Made some rookie mistakes last year that we learned from. We were used to playing in points/head to head format. Way different here. Couldn't believe how quick relievers and speed went last year. Looks like speed is going quick again this year, but if your patient you can nab a nifty closer or two later in the draft.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:58 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

Its more of a money thing. We're both 25 and not where we'll eventually be financially. theking - what's your name? i'd like to see your draft from last year.

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:54 am

GG,

Greg is considering opening up another sattelite league for $250. I'm in. Please join. We can critique each other throughout the draft and you can point out the mistakes I make as I make them.

Thanks.