Gekko and Shandler_together

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:33 am

Fantasy Spring Training

February 3, 2007

from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m.

at Martin Library in York, PA

A favorite annual rite of Spring is the annual Fantasy Spring Training in York, PA.

Program includes rating the players, auction and draft strategy, predicting player performance, position ratings, and managing your team.

Paul White (USA Today Sports Weekly), and Ron Shandler (Baseball HQ) will spend the day telling stories, giving advice, and answering Gekko's questions.

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Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:41 am

Where the heck is York, PA? How far from NYC???

Cool event, why in York PA though? why not the big city of NYC?

Spy

Liquidhippo · Post by **Liquidhippo** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:46 am

This should be on pay-per-view!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:48 am

don't worry...Ol Gek has his questions ready. first one..."Hey Ron, will you be my partner in the NFBC this year"

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:33 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

don't worry...Ol Gek has his questions ready. first one..."Hey Ron, will you be my partner in the NFBC this year" the answer to that is NO (and it doesn't have anything to do with you GG - unless he has been reading the board here) - he doesn't play in money leagues

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:44 am

Something tells me that will be the first time GG has ever stepped foot in that library.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:49 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

don't worry...Ol Gek has his questions ready. first one..."Hey Ron, will you be my partner in the NFBC this year" the answer to that is NO (and it doesn't have anything to do with you GG - unless he has been reading the board here) - he doesn't play in money leagues [/QUOTE]For good reason. If he doesn't win his "advice business" would go down the drain. I'd like to see him play. Nothing against him personally, but what makes his advice better than anyone else's? let him play here and prove he's that good. I don't pay for his service and won't. I prefer my advice. It's free and my results have been fine without him.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:04 am

He does play in expert leagues - LABR, XFL and Tout and does very well, Ron knows his stuff and is constantly developing new strategy and draft precepts.

He doesn't need to prove anything to you or anyone else vander

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:10 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Fantasy Spring Training

February 3, 2007

from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m.

at Martin Library in York, PA

A favorite annual rite of Spring is the annual Fantasy Spring Training in York, PA.

Program includes rating the players, auction and draft strategy, predicting player performance, position ratings, and managing your team.

Paul White (USA Today Sports Weekly), and Ron Shandler (Baseball HQ) will spend the day telling stories, giving advice, and answering Gekko's questions. Interesting.... won't pay for FB advice, but will for baseball

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:50 am

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Fantasy Spring Training

February 3, 2007

from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m.

at Martin Library in York, PA

A favorite annual rite of Spring is the annual Fantasy Spring Training in York, PA.

Program includes rating the players, auction and draft strategy, predicting player performance, position ratings, and managing your team.

Paul White (USA Today Sports Weekly), and Ron Shandler (Baseball HQ) will spend the day telling stories, giving advice, and answering Gekko's questions. Interesting.... won't pay for FB advice, but will for baseball

[/QUOTE]Where does it say I'm paying anything?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:51 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Fantasy Spring Training

February 3, 2007

from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m.

at Martin Library in York, PA

A favorite annual rite of Spring is the annual Fantasy Spring Training in York, PA.

Program includes rating the players, auction and draft strategy, predicting player performance, position ratings, and managing your team.

Paul White (USA Today Sports Weekly), and Ron Shandler (Baseball HQ) will spend the day telling stories, giving advice, and answering Gekko's questions. Interesting.... won't pay for FB advice, but will for baseball

[/QUOTE]Where does it say I'm paying anything? [/QUOTE]Gekko's going to eavesdrop from the stacks.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:20 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Fantasy Spring Training

February 3, 2007

from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m.

at Martin Library in York, PA

A favorite annual rite of Spring is the annual Fantasy Spring Training in York, PA.

Program includes rating the players, auction and draft strategy, predicting player performance, position ratings, and managing your team.

Paul White (USA Today Sports Weekly), and Ron Shandler (Baseball HQ) will spend the day telling stories, giving advice, and answering Gekko's questions. Interesting.... won't pay for FB advice, but will for baseball

[/QUOTE]Where does it say I'm paying anything? [/QUOTE]Your boyfriend is paying for it?

Nobody gets in for free Mark

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:31 am

Boyfriend? I leave that stuff to you and your crew.

As for shandler's program, there is no cost. You can make a $5 donation if you want. For being an industry pimp perry, you short on accurate info

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:48 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

As for shandler's program, there is no cost. You can make a $5 donation if you want. For being an industry pimp perry, you short on accurate info [/QB]My bad GG, they must have a special deal for this Library thing - all the rest of his First Pitch Seminars this spring are $29

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:43 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Boyfriend? I leave that stuff to you and your crew.

As for shandler's program, there is no cost. You can make a $5 donation if you want. For being an industry pimp perry, you short on accurate info Interesting that the only way to find this info is to log in to a paid account

Need to borrow $5 for the donation? Or will the person that pays for your subscription make the donation?

Have fun... Let us know what Ron says about not playing so we can compare it to his answers last year.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:44 pm

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

He does play in expert leagues - LABR, XFL and Tout and does very well, Ron knows his stuff and is constantly developing new strategy and draft precepts.

He doesn't need to prove anything to you or anyone else vander I don't really want to get in debates about this, however. Those "expert" drafts mean nothing to me. Look at them. I think most will agree they're a joke. I don't even look at them in magazines anymore. For my business he will have to prove himself here. Not against so called experts or journalists. I really don't mean to sound cocky or disrespectful. If most nfbc guys consider themselves the best, and I think they do, why pay for someone else's advice? I do ask advice of others, some on this board. I respect their opinions higher. Sorry. Don't know him from Adam and his opinion means nothing to me. P.S. I don't ever read columnists from my local papers either. Their knowledge of baseball is abismal. Even the ones in the hall of fame. It's a good thing for them it's other writers voting them in. One guy here in Chicago, who has since passed away wrote about baseball for 50 years here and is now in the hall. I read him as a kid. As I grew older realized he's covered this for a lifetime, and doesn't know know squat. Just my foolish opinion. Maybe spent too much time listening to Bobby Knight.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:00 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

Interesting that the only way to find this info is to log in to a paid account

it was in the local newspaper. john i'm always one step ahead of you.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:34 pm

I admit to paying for data, I get several magazines, read them, plus things like the Baseball America Prospects guide. I don't have the time to go scout the minor leagues or what ever. I don't think there is any shame with reading others analysis and deciding for yourself what to take. I create my own projections formulas, but, I always look at others lists to understand why mine is different.

So I don't hijack the thread, I am going to start a new one

Spy

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:39 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

Interesting that the only way to find this info is to log in to a paid account

it was in the local newspaper. john i'm always one step ahead of you. [/QUOTE]Yeah, but you paid for the newspaper.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:00 pm

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

I admit to paying for data, I get several magazines, read them, plus things like the Baseball America Prospects guide. I don't have the time to go scout the minor leagues or what ever. I don't think there is any shame with reading others analysis and deciding for yourself what to take. I create my own projections formulas, but, I always look at others lists to understand why mine is different.

So I don't hijack the thread, I am going to start a new one

Spy Not really what I meant spy. I buy mags also and use a lot of stuff in them as well as they are quick referance to stuff. I'm fine with paying for that stuff too. What I'm not really interested in is the opinions of the writers. It doesn't bother me that it's there and I know many read and use those opinions. At this level I think you need to have your own opinions, and I'm sure you do. Every year I get into a discussion with someone from a local league that starts with "this guy says this about this player" and that's fine for the local league guys. I don't care what they say (the writers) and I've tried to explain that to some of the other players that take that info as gospel. They don't change and I take their money. I'm starting to feel guilty about it, but they won't listen to me. They listen to "the experts". Year after year. At this level the "experts" opinion s/b meaningless. You guys are the REAL experts. Not the writers. Shandler's service to me would mostly be seeing how it will affect others, not how it would affect me. Again I have never sampled it and maybe he is the greatest baseball guru of all time and I'm missing out. At least I will be different. Again, I'm sorry if I offended anybody. I don't begrudge Shandler or anybody else for providing a service like his and I'm sure his is one of the best if not THE best out there. It's great for the casual player. I just choose not to go that way and will leave it at that.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:57 am

So GG, no report from York on the event?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:23 am

I got thrown out for "being a pest"

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:23 am

All things considered it was a good event

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Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:14 am

i'll post more about this on tuesday. stay tuned

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