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GG team drafted from the 2 hole.



Player Team Acquired

1B Carlos Pena TB R4 P14

2B Howie Kendrick ANA R6 P14

2B Freddy Sanchez PIT R13 P2

3B Alex Gordon KC R9 P2

3B Ty Wigginton HOU R12 P14

3B Andy LaRoche LA R23 P2

SS Hanley Ramirez FLA R1 P2

SS Alex Gonzalez CIN R24 P14

C Geovany Soto CHC R10 P14

C Justin Towles HOU R14 P14

OF Curtis Granderson DET R2 P14

OF Nick Markakis BAL R3 P2

OF Rocco Baldelli TB R15 P2

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R18 P14

OF Colby Rasmus STL R21 P2

OF Jay Bruce CIN R22 P14

OF Carlos Gomez NYM R26 P14

OF Scott Hairston SD R27 P2

SP Cole Hamels PHI R5 P2

SP Brett Myers PHI R8 P14

SP Brad Penny LA R11 P2

SP Rich Harden OAK R17 P2

SP Scott Olsen FLA R19 P2

SP Hiroki Kuroda LA R20 P14

SP Mark Prior SD R25 P2

SP Edinson Volquez CIN R28 P14

SP Joe Saunders ANA R29 P2

SP Justin Germano SD R30 P14

RP Huston Street OAK R7 P2

RP C.J. Wilson TEX R16 P14



with the draft in january, i decided to take some fliers on a few unknown quantities. thoughts?



[ January 25, 2008, 07:14 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

as expected, the Geovany Soto hype machine is in full force. 11th round!!!??!?!?? Soto in the 10th stood out to me...

I am not in love with the draft. But I have not yet seen who else was available at the picks I do not like. I dont like:



Soto in 10th

Towles in 14th



thats 2 catchers with nothing proven. Remember Ianetta



Baldelli in 15th

No 5th OF

Only 3 starters

only one closer if CJ is not the one

Certainly good upside....but

1) you might only have four OF starting in April if Rasmus starts in the minors and Baldelli isn't good to go

2) you are light on HR

3) I like the SP (although I doubt Germano or Volquez last more than a week on your roster), but

4) you are light on saves - certainly there will be some available during the season, but the guy who takes over the team better be good on the wire.



You made some really good picks GG, but certainly not a team you would be happy with coming out of the main event in March



[ January 24, 2008, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: Captain Hook ]

Riverside Sheriff So Cal Smac: NFBC Mag II

C- Victor Martinez (2)

C- A. J. Pierzsnyski (17)

1B- Casy Kotchman (20)

3B- Ryan Zimmeraman (6)

CI- Yunel Escobar (16)

SS- Orlando Cabrera (8)

2B- Brian Roberts (3)

MI- Kaz Matsui (12)

OF- Matt Holiday (1)

OF- Brad Hawpe (7)

OF- Jacoby Ellsbury (10)

OF- Melky Cabrera (15)

OF- Matt Diaz (19)

UTIL- Jason Giambi (21)

P- Josh Beckett (4)

P- John Lackey (5)

P- Rich Hill (9)

P- Jered Weaver (13)

P- Jeremy Guthrie (18)

P- Kyle Kendrick (22)

P- Noah Lowry (23)

RP- Joakim Soria (11)

RP- Tony Pena (14)

P- Hideki Okajima (25)

P- Tom Glavive (27)

P- Carlos Silva (28)

P- Scott Shields (30)

RES-Mike Lamb (24)

RES- Jose Batista (26)

RES- Kevin Millar (29)



Drafted from the #6 Hole, Thoughts, Comments, great draft everyone.

I think you could have "hedged" the Baldelli pick with a Mark Prior and Rich Harden...maybe even a side cup of Randy Johnson or Pedro Martinez.



That way...if any of those 5 play a full season to their potential...you'd strike gold!!!



GOLD I Say...GOOOOOLD!



Heeeeal Heeeeeeeee!



~Lance

[ January 25, 2008, 04:20 AM: Message edited by: GOD Loves You ]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:



thoughts? If I could take 4 seconds of Child's youtube vid, I would insert them right here



there's now way your taking the majority of these players in March. If so, you better hope you have 10 Brandon's falling in your lap. Middle of the pack, if that, IMO.



Let me know when the Mag2 Lg Champion posts their roster.

Originally posted by RedRyder:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

as expected, the Geovany Soto hype machine is in full force. 11th round!!!??!?!?? Soto in the 10th stood out to me... [/QUOTE]during the draft my plan and backup plan for catchers were both foiled. this was the "when all else fails" plan

Originally posted by Richie:

Baldelli in 15th

No 5th OF

Only 3 starters

only one closer if CJ is not the one baldelli is worth a 15th round gamble. he was a 5th/6th round pick last year.



as for my OF, cleraly you haven't done your prep yet.



only 3 starters, again, you haven't prepped yet.



CJ is the one.



i guess i can't expect others to see the masterpiece i have created in my own image (just like last year).

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I think you could have "hedged" the Baldelli pick with a Mark Prior and Rich Harden...maybe even a side cup of Randy Johnson or Pedro Martinez.



That way...if any of those 5 play a full season to their potential...you'd strike gold!!!



GOLD I Say...GOOOOOLD!



Heeeeal Heeeeeeeee!



~Lance absolutely! looking to strike gold here. my guess is that baldelli, harden, and prior's adp in march will be lower than where i took them last night. these picks will be considered "value" picks in march.

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:



thoughts? there's now way your taking the majority of these players in March.



[/QUOTE]walking into the virtual draft room, i KNEW this would be the common theme for people offering thoughts.



ps - i'm good at using information

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

3) I like the SP although I doubt Germano or Volquez last more than a week on your rostergermano sticks if prior isn't healthy. easy call on that pick as a prior owner.

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

You made some really good picks GG, but certainly not a team you would be happy with coming out of the main event in March thanks for the good picks bump. i must caution you, some of the players i selected will be selected multiple rounds earlier in march drafts, in some cases 4-5 rounds earlier. watch and see.

Tonight's draft was a good chance to try some new things. As a result, I don't have the same "enthusiasm" that Gekko has for his squad.



Here's how it shook out for me from the 4 hole:



1. David Wright 3b

2. Russell Martin c

3. Troy Tulowitzki ss

4. Brandon Webb sp

5. Chris B Young of

6. Adrian Beltre 3b

7. Delmon Young of

8. James Shields sp

9. Trevor Hoffman rp

10. Matt Capps rp

11. Jeremy Hermida of

12. Chien-Ming Wang sp

13. Kevin Youkilis 1b

14. Stephen Drew ss

15. Ramon Hernandez c

16. Luis Castillo 2b

17. Nate McLouth of

18. Andy Sonnanstine sp

19. Ian Kennedy sp

20. Mike Jacobs 1b

21. Jon Lester sp

22. Adam Jones of

23. Micah Owings sp

24. Kerry Wood rp

25. Matt Murton of

26. Johnny Cueto sp

27. Jose Lopez 2b

28. Manny Parra sp

29. Steven Pearce of

30. Bartolo Colon sp



I was really hoping for either Hanley or Reyes with the 4th pick, but both got snapped up before I was up. Time to adjust the old KDS! I also thought there would be a big shortstop run (like last year), so ended up with Tulo in the 3rd. In retrospect, I'd say the correct play for SS this year is to get one of the big 3 in the 1st round (Rollins the other one), otherwise wait until the 10th or later to get your guy -- the SS you grab in rounds 3 through 8 is very likely to disappoint.



Gekko touched on the catchers. Never my style to take a catcher early, so I thought I'd give it a shot here. The 3rd and 4th tier catchers went much later than expected (Molina, Varitek and Hernandez all went in the 15th), so Martin in the 2nd was a mistake. Another lesson learned for the Main Event.



Pitchers are too much of a crapshoot right now. In a draft like this, the best deal is to take a bunch of them and hope that something sticks. We're going to know a LOT more in two or three weeks. As the saying goes, keep your ears on the tracks.



Thanks to everyone for a fun evening.

Team 9 - Michael Edelman - Incredible Hulking Us



Michael Edelman



Player Acquired

1B Ryan Garko R12 P7

2B Chase Utley R1 P9

2B Asdrubal Cabrera R16 P7

3B Mike Lowell R9 P9

3B Edwin Encarnacion R10 P7

SS Miguel Tejada R5 P9

C Michael Napoli R17 P9

C Paul Lo Duca R18 P7

OF Bobby Abreu R3 P9

OF Manny Ramirez R4 P7

OF Jermaine Dye R6 P7

OF Corey Patterson R14 P7

OF Felix Pie R21 P9

OF Lastings Milledge R22 P7

OF Rajai Davis R24 P7

OF Andre Ethier R25 P9

OF Nyjer Morgan R26 P7

SP Johan Santana R2 P7

SP Roy Halladay R8 P7

SP Derek Lowe R13 P9

SP Andy Pettitte R15 P9

SP Mark Buehrle R19 P9

SP Homer Bailey R20 P7

SP Kevin Millwood R23 P9

SP Aaron Laffey R27 P9

SP Aaron Cook R29 P9

SP Jose Contreras R30 P7

RP Bobby Jenks R7 P9

RP Kevin Gregg R11 P9

RP Brandon Morrow R28 P7



Here is my team I wasn't totally thrilled with it, but I do think the team can compete for a top 3 finish. I was shocked Johann was there for 2.7 it screwed up my entire draft as I had to change a lot and ended up chasing speed all night long.



I didn't like Picking Lowell in the 9th, looking back it was a mistake considering I was able to get Edwin in the 10th.



I had my head in a buckett when I picked Corey Patterson in the 14th, again was chasing speed and it was a stupid pick I knew it when I clicked the button.



Also took Kevin Gregg way to early going in I thought I could get a closer in the 13th and it seemed like after I took him no one took another closer until the 13th so I was right and lesson learned there for later drafts. Great Draft everyone!!



[ January 25, 2008, 07:50 AM: Message edited by: edelman24 ]

Overall, I had fun. Too many people picked my pockets last night to mention any names. At least a dozen players went two or three rounds ahead of where I thought they would, so success last night was measured by me in the ability to counter punch. I like my SP and have good speed, but am going to be short in power/RBI unless several guys finally play full years and live up to potential. Drafted out of the the 12 hole which I was ok with.



Round Player Pos Team

R1 P12 Crawford, Carl OF TB No issues - SB anchor

R2 P4 Beltran, Carlos OF NYM Many choices here, but I thought I would get a crack at Sizemore, Tex, or Phillips

R3 P12 Atkins, Garrett 3B COL Had three other picks I wanted here, but they went at the turn

R4 P4 Guillen, Carlos SS, 1B DET Planned.

R5 P12 Haren, Dan SP ARI Solid Anchor

R6 P4 Cordero, Francisco RP CIN Solid

R7 P12 Damon, Johnny OF NYY Had my eye on 4 OF for this spot. Damon wasn't one.

R8 P4 Matsuzaka, Daisuke SP BOS Great #2.

R9 P12 Uggla, Dan 2B FLA Ugg. Just Ugg. Hope he hits 30.

R10 P4 Cordero, Chad RP WAS Not happy here, but another solid closer. Should have waited for my #2.

R11 P12 Perez, Oliver SP NYM Gives me 3 SP with 200 K potential. Not going to help WHIP.

R12 P4 Blalock, Hank 3B TEX Hoped to get him later, but most of my tarketed mid rounders gone.

R13 P12 Hudson, Orlando 2B ARI Planned to get a 2B here. He was my third choice.

R14 P4 Arroyo, Bronson SP CIN Mid rotation solid choice (I hope)

R15 P12 Cameron, Mike OF MIL I like this pick here. I really do.

R16 P4 Greinke, Zach SP KC Up and comer

R17 P12 Bradley, Milton OF TEX Can you imagine if he can get 500+ AB!

R18 P4 Bush, David SP MIL Solid rotation filler

R19 P12 Ruiz, Carlos C PHI Second tier catcher approach

R20 P4 Overbay, Lyle 1B TOR I wanted Youk around 13/14 but he was gone earlier. Hope he returns to form

R21 P12 Capuano, Chris SP MIL Gamble

R22 P4 DeJesus, David OF KC Nice pick here, I think. Solid Utility or BU OF.

R23 P12 Estrada, Johnny C NYM What was I drinking? Gamble.

R24 P4 Broussard, Ben 1B, OF TEX Gamble with upside.

R25 P12 Bonser, Boof SP MIN Want to watch him.

R26 P4 Looper, Braden SP STL Situational fill-in

R27 P12 Byrd, Marlon OF TEX In TEX, keep. Traded - 4th OF and drop.

R28 P4 Marshall, Sean SP CHC Spring training gamble

R29 P12 Uribe, Juan SS CHW How much will he play? Good power

R30 P4 Wheeler, Dan RP TB Future closer in TB



I see middle of the pack unless those guys return to form. They have done it before, but it is risky. Yup. Middle of the pack. Thoughts?



[ January 25, 2008, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]

Originally posted by Mankind:

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OF- Brad Hawpe (7)

P- John Lackey (5)

RP- Joakim Soria (11)

RP- Tony Pena (14)



Drafted from the #6 Hole, Thoughts, Comments, great draft everyone. Duke,



Thought you had picked my pocket on Hawpe, but there were 7 OF in 9 picks from the 4-hole to the 12-hole of Round Seven, so he probably would not have made it to me anyway.



I thought the Lackey pick was interesting with the other pitchers still on the board. Not that he is bad. Far from it, but I had him ranked a few rounds later. C'est la vie.



Proof you can get two closers after the first ten rounds. Lesson learned by me.



In general, I thought your six middle and corner men might hold you down, but only time will tell.



Enjoyed it!

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Proof you can get two closers after the first ten rounds. Lesson learned by me.Maybe, but just make sure they'll be closing by June 1 (see Salomon Torres etal, 2007)

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Proof you can get two closers after the first ten rounds. Lesson learned by me.Maybe, but just make sure they'll be closing by June 1 (see Salomon Torres etal, 2007) [/QUOTE]True, but there were a lot more Closer-types taken after the 10th round than I remember over the last few years like:



Soria, Joakim

Gregg, Kevin

Isringhausen, Jason

Marmol, Carlos

Borowski, Joe

Gagne, Eric

Jones, Todd

Pena, Tony

Percival, Troy

Accardo, Jeremy

Wilson, C.J.

Ryan, B.J.

Wilson, Brian



They are the riskier options, but options none the less.

By the way, Glenn, I think you ended up with a pretty darn good team. Your outfielders are young (well, besides Chris B and Delmon ) but have some great upside.



Here's hoping you finish second!

I drafted out of the 13th spot. In the first round I took Soriano and with the eighteenth pick I took Sizemore. I followed that with D.Lee and then Mauer as I thought that my first two where weakest in BA.



In the fifth round I found CC still on the board and five picks later I added Harang. In the seventh Chris Young the SD SP was still on the board so I went with a third SP. This was my plan as I had all three in my top 15 SP and think that when you need to throw 9 pitchers each week you need three every week Aces.



In the Eighth I went with Valverde, which left my hitting in sorry shape. I was willing to go with a RP if one of top 15 SP was not there in the seventh, besides none of the hitter really stood out (to me) at this point. I felt that at this point my team projected SB (40% of Target), HR (38%), Runs (35%), BA (34%), and weakest in RBI (31%). Those numbers after 4 of 14 hitters aren’t too bad when you consider I have already rostered a Catcher. In the ninth, Loney was still on the table and the two players between my picks had both taken a 1B in the second round (Prince & Teixeria) along with the 15th team having added Korenko. So I tried to grab RBI’s from a middle infielder K. Greene and cover his awful BA by getting Loney on the way back. Loney didn’t make it back to me so I went with Kelly Johnson. At this point I was weak in BA and RBI’s so I came back with Ibanez and Cuddyer which helped out in the RBI but still left me short in BA. Pudge as my second Catcher helped with BA.



I also grabbed Gagne as my second Closer as he and Todd Jones were the only sure season starting closers left. Not to say that either will hold the job.



My plan was to get 8 SP (3 aces, 3 upside, 2 rotation guys), 3 closer (Ace, Middle of the road, solid shot).



SP - Sabathia, Harang, C Young, Garza, Schmidt, An Reyes, Zack Duke, & Duschscherer



RP – Valverde, Gagne, Jamie Walker



I would give my Pitching a B, as it worked pretty much to plan.



C- Mauer & Pudge

1B - D.Lee & Conner Jackson

2B – Johnson & A. Casilla (SB sleeper)

SS – K Greene & F. Lopez

3B – Chavez & Blake

OF/DH – Soriano, Sizemore, Ibanez, Cuddyer, Kubel, Teehan

OF Bench – Gutierrez & Gomes

Prospect – Ian Stewart



BA looks awful (275-280) OK Power (250+/-) Average Speed. Overall D.



Glad I have 50 days to work on it.

Drafted this team out of the #14 spot. Was planning on starting with speed but then PRINCE was on the table and I couldn't pass him up.



At this spot, you have to be aware of position scarcity to a greater extent because being on the corner it will be a long time before you pick again. I decided to lock down the middle in rounds 3 & 4. Some will consider FURCAL a reach, but no way he comes back.



Thought I was about to steal CC Sabathia in round #5, but just missed him. Roy Oswalt made me happy in round #6 and Matt Cain in round #9 was a pleasant surprise.





3B became a problem. The guys I targeted went earlier than expected, thanks KOQ.



Every year at this time it happens to me. During a MOCK draft I take a CATCHER earlier than need be. Part of me thinks I do this on purpose as a reminder of how DUMB it really is to do. Johjima

at #8 was bad. Please learn the errors of my ways.





I took Bonderman at #12 after I had gotten Auto-kicked in the balls when Jason put his draft on Autp-Pick and the dang computer grabbed two guys I had interest in.





I think the team grades out at C+. I need to do some howework for the endgame. It was great fun and a learning experience. I had a blast. Thanks to Greg, Tom, MDC, and all of the other participants. Even you James Christie - you Deeck!



SACK Squad





Fielder Prince 1B

Lee Carlos OF

Furcal Rafael SS

Cano Robinson 2B

Bay Jason OF

Oswalt Roy SP

Rivera Mariano CL

Johjima Kenji C

Cain Matthew SP

Loney James CI

Fields Josh 3B/OF

Bonderman Jeremy SP

Borowski Joe CL

Gorzelanny Tom SP

Kearns Austin OF

Owens Jerry OF

Rodriguez Wandy SP

Baker Scott SP

Maybin Cameron OF

Ross David C

Correia Kevin SP

Bell Heath RP

Davis Doug SP

Crede Joe 3B

Wilkerson Brad OF/1B

Barrett Michael C

GonzalezGio SP

AntonelliMatt

GrudzielanekMark SS

Dukes Elijah OF



[ January 25, 2008, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: Sack ]

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

By the way, Glenn, I think you ended up with a pretty darn good team. Your outfielders are young (well, besides Chris B and Delmon ) but have some great upside.



Here's hoping you finish second! Thanks, I think



See my previous notes -- drafting catchers and middle infielders in the early rounds is IMO a recipe for disaster. Joe Mauer and Bill Hall anyone? Sure, it can work out if you nail the picks, but a much riskier proposition.



Your pitching blows mine away -- I waited too long for my 4th, 5th and 6th starters and probably my 3rd as well. Dice K in the 8th was particularly sweet for you.

picked #7 Jared Eagle



Pos Name Team Pick

C Jorge Posada NYY R6 P9

C Chris Snyder ARI R19 P7

1B Albert Pujols STL R1 P7

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R8 P9

2B Dustin Pedroia BOS R12 P9

2B Marcus Giles COL R29 P7

SS Derek Jeter NYY R3 P7

SS Yuniesky Betancourt SEA R21 P7

3B Kevin Kouzmanoff SD R14 P9

OF Hunter Pence HOU R5 P7

OF Juan Pierre LA R7 P7

OF Moises Alou NYM R15 P7

OF Rick Ankiel STL R17 P7

OF Ryan Church NYM R22 P9

OF Barry Bonds SF R24 P9

DH Travis Hafner CLE R4 P9

SP Jake Peavy SD R2 P9

SP Ted Lilly CHC R10 P9

SP Pedro Martinez NYM R11 P7

SP Joe Blanton OAK R16 P9

SP Brian Bannister KC R20 P9

SP Edwin Jackson TB R23 P7

SP Chad Gaudin OAK R26 P9

SP Tim Redding WAS R27 P7

SP Daniel Cabrera BAL R28 P9

RP Brad Lidge PHI R9 P7

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P7

RP Brian Wilson SF R18 P9

RP Jim Hoey BAL R25 P7

RP Clayton Kershaw LA R30 P9





didn't expect to get Pujols @ 7 my how the mighty have fallen...1 thing I took from this is that the oF position seems pretty weak and the later rounds arent as prime for sleepers as it used to be....overall feel its a solid team and should compete..I know people are all down on Pierre but fact of the matter is 60 steals 50+ steals is 50+ steal sno matter how you slice it and he was a guy that for the last 4 years or so has gone in the top 3 rounds so in rd 7 I'll take him..



good job guys was a very tough bunch to draft with..