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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:48 am
by jamesmaples
Who has more of a chance of starting 28 games or more? Ben Sheets Francisco Liriano or A.J. Burnett

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:09 am
by Sheep
AJ!!!!

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:14 am
by jamesmaples
Which one of these pitchers will go first in the draft?

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:33 am
by DOUGHBOYS
Burnett for the first question.



Liriano and Sheets for the second question.



Much like who will get more ab's Chipper Jones or Mike Lowell, and who gets picked first. ;)

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:50 am
by jamesmaples
If you really thought Burnett with get considerable more starts why will he go later in the draft?

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:54 am
by DOUGHBOYS
risk - reward.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:55 am
by DOUGHBOYS
And in no way did I say "considerable".

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:01 am
by jamesmaples
Burnett has a higher K rate lower era and whip than Sheets in 07 and liriano didn't even pitch. If you think that Burnett will get more starts then why shouldn't he go in front of Sheets and Liriano.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:14 am
by DOUGHBOYS
It's a new year!



All three start on an even keel this year. Although Burnett would be the slight favorite to have more innings this year, he has most likely reached his ceiling. Sheets and especially Liriano can be of draft changing significance.

If Liriano is taken in the 9th, Sheets in the 10th, and Burnett in the 11th. And all start 34 games Liriano and Sheets could give you 3rd or 4th round value while, at best, Burnett gives you 8th round value.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:22 am
by Sheep
Burnett with 32 GS will not finish with top 10 numbers, while Seets and Liriano could both end up in top 10 (they have both been top five for periods in the past).

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:31 am
by jamesmaples
I think that I would pick Sheets, Liriano, Burnett in that order but I don't think that the risk reward is that different. In the NFBC league published in the magazine Sheets went in the 6th round with Liriano going in the 10th and Burnett going in the 11th. I think the best value on draft day would be Burnett. :D

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:33 am
by DOUGHBOYS
Drafting in Vegas? :D :D :D

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:34 am
by jamesmaples
I am drafting in Vegas and very pumped about it. :D

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:36 am
by DOUGHBOYS
No better place, no better event. See you there. :cool:

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:05 am
by Dub
Originally posted by jamesmaples:

Burnett has a higher K rate lower era and whip than Sheets in 07 and liriano didn't even pitch. If you think that Burnett will get more starts then why shouldn't he go in front of Sheets and Liriano. For one thing- Sheets pitches in the NL

and for another in 2006, Liriano reached a level that few can.



[ February 14, 2008, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Dub ]

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:27 pm
by jamesmaples
It doesn't matter if Sheets is in the N.L. and Burnett is in the A.L. if he still has better stats. Liriano has only pitched a little over a half of a season in the league. My point is Burnett is a better value in the 11th than Sheets is in the 6th.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:40 pm
by Dub
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jamesmaples:

My point is Burnett is a better value in the 11th than Sheets is in the 6th /QUOTE]



I agree with that statement

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:57 pm
by jamesmaples
Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by jamesmaples:

Burnett has a higher K rate lower era and whip than Sheets in 07 and liriano didn't even pitch. If you think that Burnett will get more starts then why shouldn't he go in front of Sheets and Liriano. For one thing- Sheets pitches in the NL

and for another in 2006, Liriano reached a level that few can.
[/QUOTE]I don't agree with Sheets pitches in the N.L. and that is why I would pick him first. Johan Santana has been in the A.L. and been the first pitcher off of the board. It is all about the individual statistics. :D

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:24 pm
by Dub
Originally posted by jamesmaples:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by jamesmaples:

Burnett has a higher K rate lower era and whip than Sheets in 07 and liriano didn't even pitch. If you think that Burnett will get more starts then why shouldn't he go in front of Sheets and Liriano. For one thing- Sheets pitches in the NL

and for another in 2006, Liriano reached a level that few can.
[/QUOTE]I don't agree with Sheets pitches in the N.L. and that is why I would pick him first. Johan Santana has been in the A.L. and been the first pitcher off of the board. It is all about the individual statistics. :D
[/QUOTE]Forget about Fantasy for a second- Ben Sheet is a better pitcher than AJ Burnett-Period



He is just so dam brittle.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:29 pm
by jamesmaples
Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by jamesmaples:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by jamesmaples:

Burnett has a higher K rate lower era and whip than Sheets in 07 and liriano didn't even pitch. If you think that Burnett will get more starts then why shouldn't he go in front of Sheets and Liriano. For one thing- Sheets pitches in the NL

and for another in 2006, Liriano reached a level that few can.
[/QUOTE]I don't agree with Sheets pitches in the N.L. and that is why I would pick him first. Johan Santana has been in the A.L. and been the first pitcher off of the board. It is all about the individual statistics. :D
[/QUOTE]Forget about Fantasy for a second- Ben Sheet is a better pitcher than AJ Burnett-Period



He is just so dam brittle.
[/QUOTE]This is a fantasy baseball message board.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:44 pm
by Dub
James:



You ever see the signatures on AJ's bats? They are signed Marilyn Mason and other metal heads. He is talented, but a freak.