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Was curious to opinions on this team? Had two previous drafts from the back (12 and 14), and personally felt more comfortable there.



Didn't want Ichiro at 3.06, but couldn't pass him up, and Delgado is my wild card, as I couldn't let him pass at 15.06.



C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P10

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R17 P6

1B Conor Jackson ARI R12 P10

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R15 P6

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R4 P10

2B Tadahito Iguchi SD R20 P10

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R1 P6

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R7 P6

3B Mike Lamb MIN R26 P10

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R2 P10

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P6

OF Lastings Milledge WAS R14 P10

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R19 P6

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R22 P10

OF Ryan Church NYM R23 P6

OF Andre Ethier LA R28 P10

DH Travis Hafner CLE R5 P6

SP John Smoltz ATL R6 P10

SP Chad Billingsley LA R9 P6

SP John Maine NYM R10 P10

SP Fausto Carmona CLE R11 P6

SP Tom Gorzelanny PIT R18 P10

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R21 P6

SP Wandy Rodriguez HOU R24 P10

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R25 P6

SP Cliff Lee CLE R30 P10

RP Billy Wagner NYM R8 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P6

RP Peter Moylan ATL R27 P6

RP Fernando Rodney DET R29 P6

I think BA will be a problem. You could have issues at 1b and obstensibly CI. I'm not sure about the pitching. On the one hand, overall I like it. But on the other, a lot of them have question marks. Speed should be pretty good. I'm sure you're counting/hoping on 20ish from Matthews, Kinsler and Milledge.

It's hard to guage where you'll end up. I think you needs things to go right for a couple people on the offensive side(delgado being one) and the pitching too, although I have more faith in your pitching.

As a rook, it's hard for me to give you historical based feed back but to me I think you got great value with some of your picks...specifically Ichiro, Hafner, Wagner, and Carmona. All of them should have gone earlier...IMO.



Overall, your team looks slightly above average to me...but I base that on mock drafts that I have done versus any satellites. I think your team will finish in the top half of whatever league you're in, but I would think it's going to take stronger pitching (overall) and better balance with your batting to win a 15 team league. I could be way off and again definitely don't have the historical success to back up my comments.

I'm picking out of the 6 hole as a preference and I'd would have taken the same players you did in the first 3 rds if they had been available. Probably would have gone with more pop with my 4th pick, but overall - if Pronk and Delgado produce - I think you'll be alright. Like the staff very much especially the top 5 SPs. Wandy in the 24th? Nice.

Yeah, looks like avg may be a problem - even more than Ichiro can mitigate. A high avg C or MI would have served you well as a buffer.



I do like the 6 hole, though. Will tell ya how mine worked out in a few hours....

Originally posted by Lost Sailor:

I'm picking out of the 6 hole as a preference and I'd would have taken the same players you did in the first 3 rds if they had been available. Probably would have gone with more pop with my 4th pick, but overall - if Pronk and Delgado produce - I think you'll be alright. Like the staff very much especially the top 5 SPs. Wandy in the 24th? Nice.

Yeah, looks like avg may be a problem - even more than Ichiro can mitigate. A high avg C or MI would have served you well as a buffer.



I do like the 6 hole, though. Will tell ya how mine worked out in a few hours.... Looking forward to it Lost Sailor! Too late to say good luck, as you are well on your way.



I think Pronk WILL produce this year, and will hit in the high .280-.290's. I also see Guerrero, of course Ichiro, and Conor Jackson in the .300's. Pierzynski is a decent hitting catcher and I don't see too many "casualties" in my average with the exception of Delgado, Iguchi, and Varitek. Ichiro will count 1 1/2 times Varitek's bat, so that will take care of that. I am ONE big stick at 1B/3B or 2B/SS away from REALLY liking this team.



My biggest mistake was not securing a quality MI, and that will hurt me, but "lesson learned".



I hope you are right about my staff, as I do like it also.



Thanks for the comments!

My draft from the 6 hole yesterday:



Posada

Kendall

CPena

KMatsui

Renteria

Beltre

Kent

Sexson

Holliday

Beltran

Rios

MCabrera

SHairston

DYoung



Kazmir

Hudson

Lilly

KEscobar

Bailey

Sonnanstein

Papelbon

CCordero

Betancourt



I forgot my bench. It's ok. A few starters on it to plug the Escobar hole. Alou and Balentien are notables.

Originally posted by billywaz:

Was curious to opinions on this team? Had two previous drafts from the back (12 and 14), and personally felt more comfortable there.



Didn't want Ichiro at 3.06, but couldn't pass him up, and Delgado is my wild card, as I couldn't let him pass at 15.06.



C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P10

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R17 P6

1B Conor Jackson ARI R12 P10

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R15 P6

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R4 P10

2B Tadahito Iguchi SD R20 P10

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R1 P6

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R7 P6

3B Mike Lamb MIN R26 P10

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R2 P10

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P6

OF Lastings Milledge WAS R14 P10

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R19 P6

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R22 P10

OF Ryan Church NYM R23 P6

OF Andre Ethier LA R28 P10

DH Travis Hafner CLE R5 P6

SP John Smoltz ATL R6 P10

SP Chad Billingsley LA R9 P6

SP John Maine NYM R10 P10

SP Fausto Carmona CLE R11 P6

SP Tom Gorzelanny PIT R18 P10

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R21 P6

SP Wandy Rodriguez HOU R24 P10

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R25 P6

SP Cliff Lee CLE R30 P10

RP Billy Wagner NYM R8 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P6

RP Peter Moylan ATL R27 P6

RP Fernando Rodney DET R29 P6 Wow did you have some stuff fall in the first 5 rounds. Ichiro in the 3rd? Hafner in the 5th? Fascinating. Anyway, you are 1 big bopper away from having about as great a team as one could hope for in thie format. The only real issues I see are the OF doesn't look that pretty after Ichiro and Marmol has to keep the closer role as well...

I like your offense. Rios hung around late for you- Nice value. No gleering holes (kendall maybe). Getting CPena and Posada no easy feat.



SP is where you may run into some trouble.

Originally posted by billywaz:

Was curious to opinions on this team? Had two previous drafts from the back (12 and 14), and personally felt more comfortable there.



Didn't want Ichiro at 3.06, but couldn't pass him up, and Delgado is my wild card, as I couldn't let him pass at 15.06.



C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P10

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R17 P6

1B Conor Jackson ARI R12 P10

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R15 P6

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R4 P10

2B Tadahito Iguchi SD R20 P10

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R1 P6

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R7 P6

3B Mike Lamb MIN R26 P10

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R2 P10

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P6

OF Lastings Milledge WAS R14 P10

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R19 P6

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R22 P10

OF Ryan Church NYM R23 P6

OF Andre Ethier LA R28 P10

DH Travis Hafner CLE R5 P6

SP John Smoltz ATL R6 P10

SP Chad Billingsley LA R9 P6

SP John Maine NYM R10 P10

SP Fausto Carmona CLE R11 P6

SP Tom Gorzelanny PIT R18 P10

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R21 P6

SP Wandy Rodriguez HOU R24 P10

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R25 P6

SP Cliff Lee CLE R30 P10

RP Billy Wagner NYM R8 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P6

RP Peter Moylan ATL R27 P6

RP Fernando Rodney DET R29 P6 Your first 5 picks were very GOOD!!!



And how did you land Billingsly , Main and Carmona in rounds 9,10, and 11??



NOt to complain or anything but that league draft was weak and you took perfect advantage of it, as you should of.. Good Job..



Buy the way Delgado is stinging the ball the other way , the past 3 days.. Thats a great sign for him cause he's one of the worst spring guys usually...

Originally posted by RedRum:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Was curious to opinions on this team? Had two previous drafts from the back (12 and 14), and personally felt more comfortable there.



Didn't want Ichiro at 3.06, but couldn't pass him up, and Delgado is my wild card, as I couldn't let him pass at 15.06.



C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P10

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R17 P6

1B Conor Jackson ARI R12 P10

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R15 P6

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R4 P10

2B Tadahito Iguchi SD R20 P10

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R1 P6

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R7 P6

3B Mike Lamb MIN R26 P10

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R2 P10

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P6

OF Lastings Milledge WAS R14 P10

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R19 P6

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R22 P10

OF Ryan Church NYM R23 P6

OF Andre Ethier LA R28 P10

DH Travis Hafner CLE R5 P6

SP John Smoltz ATL R6 P10

SP Chad Billingsley LA R9 P6

SP John Maine NYM R10 P10

SP Fausto Carmona CLE R11 P6

SP Tom Gorzelanny PIT R18 P10

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R21 P6

SP Wandy Rodriguez HOU R24 P10

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R25 P6

SP Cliff Lee CLE R30 P10

RP Billy Wagner NYM R8 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P6

RP Peter Moylan ATL R27 P6

RP Fernando Rodney DET R29 P6 Your first 5 picks were very GOOD!!!



And how did you land Billingsly , Main and Carmona in rounds 9,10, and 11??



NOt to complain or anything but that league draft was weak and you took perfect advantage of it, as you should of.. Good Job..



Buy the way Delgado is stinging the ball the other way , the past 3 days.. Thats a great sign for him cause he's one of the worst spring guys usually... [/QUOTE]Thanks RedRum!



Delgado is a HUGE key for me, as if he does well, so should my team.



I am not a big Carmona fan, but as my #4 in the 11th round, I couldn't pass.



We shall see.



P.S. You do realize this was a satellite on Wednesday and NOT a Main team?

"I couldn't pass. "



I hate that line. If you don't like the player which round should be irrelevant. IMHO you take a player you like that fits your draft plan.



In any case it work out because you have a wonderful team and anyone would want to start out with what you got!

Originally posted by billywaz:

Was curious to opinions on this team? Had two previous drafts from the back (12 and 14), and personally felt more comfortable there.



Didn't want Ichiro at 3.06, but couldn't pass him up, and Delgado is my wild card, as I couldn't let him pass at 15.06.



C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P10

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R17 P6

1B Conor Jackson ARI R12 P10

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R15 P6

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R4 P10

2B Tadahito Iguchi SD R20 P10

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R1 P6

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R7 P6

3B Mike Lamb MIN R26 P10

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R2 P10

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P6

OF Lastings Milledge WAS R14 P10

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R19 P6

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R22 P10

OF Ryan Church NYM R23 P6

OF Andre Ethier LA R28 P10

DH Travis Hafner CLE R5 P6

SP John Smoltz ATL R6 P10

SP Chad Billingsley LA R9 P6

SP John Maine NYM R10 P10

SP Fausto Carmona CLE R11 P6

SP Tom Gorzelanny PIT R18 P10

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R21 P6

SP Wandy Rodriguez HOU R24 P10

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R25 P6

SP Cliff Lee CLE R30 P10

RP Billy Wagner NYM R8 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P6

RP Peter Moylan ATL R27 P6

RP Fernando Rodney DET R29 P6 I may have understated in prior- THIS TEAM IS REALLY GOOD!

Originally posted by billywaz:

Was curious to opinions on this team? Had two previous drafts from the back (12 and 14), and personally felt more comfortable there.



Didn't want Ichiro at 3.06, but couldn't pass him up, and Delgado is my wild card, as I couldn't let him pass at 15.06.



C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P10

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R17 P6

1B Conor Jackson ARI R12 P10

1B Carlos Delgado NYM R15 P6

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R4 P10

2B Tadahito Iguchi SD R20 P10

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R1 P6

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R7 P6

3B Mike Lamb MIN R26 P10

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R2 P10

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P6

OF Lastings Milledge WAS R14 P10

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R19 P6

OF Geoff Jenkins PHI R22 P10

OF Ryan Church NYM R23 P6

OF Andre Ethier LA R28 P10

DH Travis Hafner CLE R5 P6

SP John Smoltz ATL R6 P10

SP Chad Billingsley LA R9 P6

SP John Maine NYM R10 P10

SP Fausto Carmona CLE R11 P6

SP Tom Gorzelanny PIT R18 P10

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R21 P6

SP Wandy Rodriguez HOU R24 P10

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R25 P6

SP Cliff Lee CLE R30 P10

RP Billy Wagner NYM R8 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R13 P6

RP Peter Moylan ATL R27 P6

RP Fernando Rodney DET R29 P6 Good Job Billy!



Just looking over my Main league...at your pick 6 slot you would not have been able to draft the following players from your team in the rounds you got them...



These guys would not have fallen to you...



Rollins

Vlad

Ichiro

Hafner

Wagner

Billingsley

Maine

Carmona

C. Jackson

Marmol

Milledge

Delgado

Pierzyski

Gorzelanny

Ethier

etc...(more)



Not to say other players were less valuable...but that's just an example of the difference between a sample satellite and a sample main event.



Good value!



~Lance

Not quite true, one of the league in nyc had hanley going 7th and I think rollins as well (not in my leaque unfortunately!) but I agree with the rest Lance! you just don't see falls like that. I thought this team was a main event team. Makes allot more sense that it was a satellite

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

Not quite true, one of the league in nyc had hanley going 7th and I think rollins as well (not in my leaque unfortunately!) but I agree with the rest Lance! you just don't see falls like that. I thought this team was a main event team. Makes allot more sense that it was a satellite I was just comparing it to the main event that I was in, Spy...but yes...Rollins fell enough...heck...REYES fell to pick #8 in my league!!!



Great weekend!



~Lance

Interesting draft- I also picked out of the 6 hole in NY league 6. 1st time drafter Let me know?

C Mauer - (6)

C Pierzynski (17)

1b Loney (9)

2b Uggla (7)

ss Rollins (1)

3b Glaus (13) please stay healthy

OF Vllady (2)

Of Ichiro (3)

OF Matthews jr (14)

OF Hall (16)

OF Nady (21)

MI Hardy (12)

CI Reynolds (18)

Util - Barton (20)

P- Beckett (5)

p- Carmona (8)

p- Penny (11)

p-R johnson(15)

rp- Papelbon (4)

rp- Okajima (19)

rp- Funtes (22)

rp- C Cordero(10)

rp- Al reyes (26)



Bench- Pie(23), Jose Lopez(24),Edmonds(28),Lofton(29),Clement(30), Hannahan (27) and Lieber-p (25)

My feelings:Lot of injury risks and need another pitcher. What do you think?