GEKKO - FULL_DISCLOSURE

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:33 am

Okay, full disclosure. I participated in three drafts this year. Some people have said that my main event run last year was all luck. Read below and you decide.

$250 March 5th Satellite

1B Helton

2B Weeks

SS Tulo

3B Wright

MI Pedroia

CI Zimmerman

C Snyder

C Navarro

OF Granderson

OF Hermedia

OF Bourne (I didn’t want any Judy’s on my teams, but in the 13th round, hey I gotta get him!)

OF L.Scott

OF Diaz

U C.Jackson

P Verlander

P F.Hernandez

P P.Hughes

P Harden

P I.Kennedy

P Sonnanstine

P Saunders

P F.Cordero

P Broxton

R Dukes

R Bruce

R Murton

R H.Bell

R Parra

R Volquez

R Cueto

$1,300 Main Event

1B Helton

2B Pedroia

SS Furcal

3B Cabrera

MI Peralta

CI Rolen

C Mauer

C Napoli

OF C.Lee

OF C.Young

OF J.Hamilton

OF N.McLouth

OF R.Winn

U B.Butler

P Hamels

P Lirano

P McGowan

P Wainwright

P Cueto

P Garland

P Duschererer

P Saunders

P H.Street

R Brousard

R Dukes

R Church

R Volquez

R Robertson

R G.Gonzalez

R Hennessey

$2,500 Super Draft

1B D.Lee

2B A.Hill

SS Rollins

3B Beltre

MI Betancourt

CI Brousard

C Towels

C Snyder

OF Guererro

OF C.Young

OF J.Upton

OF Guillen

OF Patterson

U Butler

P Matsuzaka

P Gallardo

P Carmona

P Cueto

P Bergmann

P Suppan

P Floyd

P Putz

P Capps

R Headley

R G.Anderson

R Either

R Cantu

R D.Price

R Fuentes

R Niemann

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:36 am

I think your sat. team is your best one to be honest. Probably the most solid all around. Of course we won't know until October, but that would be my feeling right now.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:42 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

I think your sat. team is your best one to be honest. Probably the most solid all around. Of course we won't know until October, but that would be my feeling right now. thanks. the level of competition in the 250 was less than the high dollar amount leagues IMO. plus, i was able to get cueto and parra at cheaper rates on march 5th. that CERTAINLY had a measureable difference when comparing my teams.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:46 am

GG, I have always thought you had it a bit easier last year with some real players falling way further than in any other league, BUT, I have have never questioned you did a great job and managed the team well. I hope you haven't miss read my teasing you as putting you down

spy

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:05 am

real nice main team. quit it with liriano- he went round 7 in my draft. you can't prep as much as you do and forget where you have liriano ranked. i can see getting luke scott confused with adam jones- but not liriano with any other pitcher- too early in the draft and too much of a target- no target guy. . nice pick.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:16 am

Mark,

We discussed your Main and $2,500 teams on the phone this weekend, but this is the first I have seen of the $250 satellite.

I think your $250 satellite is BY FAR your best squad (really like your offense!), and your $2,500 is 2nd. You know my concerns with your Main team, but I think you will massage that staff well (they may all need "rubdowns" in the infirmary

), and will use your FAAB $ to make it work.

What is up with the man crush on Helton?

Wouldn't he fall in the "old-crusty dude" category?

[ March 17, 2008, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:49 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

Mark,

We discussed your Main and $2,500 teams on the phone this weekend, but this is the first I have seen of the $250 satellite.

I think your $250 satellite is BY FAR your best squad (really like your offense!), and your $2,500 is 2nd. You know my concerns with your Main team, but I think you will massage that staff well (they may all need "rubdowns" in the infirmary

), and will use your FAAB $ to make it work.

What is up with the man crush on Helton?

Wouldn't he fall in the "old-crusty dude" category?

i thought you'd like the satellite league team.

as for helton, i don't see much difference between him and a.gonzalez (going 5 or 6 rounds earlier).

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:58 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Mark,

We discussed your Main and $2,500 teams on the phone this weekend, but this is the first I have seen of the $250 satellite.

I think your $250 satellite is BY FAR your best squad (really like your offense!), and your $2,500 is 2nd. You know my concerns with your Main team, but I think you will massage that staff well (they may all need "rubdowns" in the infirmary

), and will use your FAAB $ to make it work.

What is up with the man crush on Helton?

Wouldn't he fall in the "old-crusty dude" category?

i thought you'd like the satellite league team.

as for helton, i don't see much difference between him and a.gonzalez (going 5 or 6 rounds earlier). [/QUOTE]Helton will have a better average, but there is AT LEAST a 10 HR difference.

I have Helton for around 15 bombs this year.

If you took him twice, I am sure you have him for more.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:01 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

real nice main team. quit it with liriano- he went round 7 in my draft. you can't prep as much as you do and forget where you have liriano ranked. i can see getting luke scott confused with adam jones- but not liriano with any other pitcher- too early in the draft and too much of a target- no target guy. . nice pick. lirano WAS a busted pick. no BS'ing. like i said, i musta been on tilt.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:03 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

Helton will have a better average, but there is AT LEAST a 10 HR difference.

I have Helton for around 15 bombs this year.

If you took him twice, I am sure you have him for more. most newbies underestimate the importance of having a quality batting average.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:16 am

Did the satelite help, Mark?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:28 am

Hopefully my prep allowed me to take advantage of the early draft date. Millidge was on my list for the 15th round (2 or 3 rounds before his adp I believe), but someone snaked him in the 11th!!!

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:29 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Helton will have a better average, but there is AT LEAST a 10 HR difference.

I have Helton for around 15 bombs this year.

If you took him twice, I am sure you have him for more. most newbies underestimate the importance of having a quality batting average. [/QUOTE]Maybe so, but Adrian Gonzalez is no slouch on the AVG. as didn't he hit in the .290's last year?

I think Helton is a GREAT baseball player, and has a sweet swing that produces many line drives. He IS great for your average, but puts you in a hole with his lack of power (considering the other options at the position).

If you can make up the HR's elsewhere, he is your guy! I think you might be a little down in the power/HR dept. on your main team (around 260), but I think you had around that last year and you obviously did VERY well.

I'm sure you will make it work!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:32 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

I think Helton is a GREAT baseball playerHe was a pretty good quarterback, too!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:38 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Helton will have a better average, but there is AT LEAST a 10 HR difference.

I have Helton for around 15 bombs this year.

If you took him twice, I am sure you have him for more. most newbies underestimate the importance of having a quality batting average. [/QUOTE]I think the HR difference could be closer to +15 for Adrian this year, and would call it 50/50 for who puts up the higher BA. The better Helton comp for this year might be Casey Kotchman's stats with a bump in R's scored.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:54 am

Gonzalez had maximum at bats last year, plays in a ballpark that kills homeruns. He hit .282 last year. I also saw the blurb that tony gwynn was working on him with his swing this offseason. Knowing what kind of hitter gwynn was (singles), that can't be good for the power growth.

The people who bought gonzalez paid for last year's stats I'm afraid.

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:07 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Helton will have a better average, but there is AT LEAST a 10 HR difference.

I have Helton for around 15 bombs this year.

If you took him twice, I am sure you have him for more. most newbies underestimate the importance of having a quality batting average. [/QUOTE]I hope i took care of that...

Nice drafting in the main near you...

The Wainwright and Peralta picks were sweet and would of been mine but had to take care of other needs... WAinwright fell far IMHO. What was up with the closer run in Rd 9?? jeez Not to mention team 14 drafting all RP's and not taking an SP untill rd 24 (Doug Davis) ???

[ March 17, 2008, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: RedRum ]

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:12 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Gonzalez had maximum at bats last year, plays in a ballpark that kills homeruns. He hit .282 last year. I also saw the blurb that tony gwynn was working on him with his swing this offseason. Knowing what kind of hitter gwynn was (singles), that can't be good for the power growth.

The people who bought gonzalez paid for last year's stats I'm afraid. Adrian's power ratios have inched up each of the last two season's, he's just 26 this season and a big, strong hitter. He hit 21 HRs on the road last season.

The guy Gywnn always studied and tried to emulate was Ted Williams, he just didn't have his power. But apply those principles to Adrian and ... ???

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:23 am

last i checked gonzo had zero hr's this spring. probably means nothing, but it could mean bye bye 30 hr, hello low 20's, curtousy of my gwynn.

then there's the school of thought that gwynn will screw up gonzo's mechanics and he goes right down the toilet.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:32 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

last i checked gonzo had zero hr's this spring. probably means nothing, but it could mean bye bye 30 hr, hello low 20's, curtousy of my gwynn.

then there's the school of thought that gwynn will screw up gonzo's mechanics and he goes right down the toilet.

zero HRs? I guess he's saving them for the reg season, so maybe he hits 35 instead of 30

... if Tony does take him down in flames, that just moves my team's 1b, C Jackson, into the top 10 at 1b.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:49 am

Mark, what do you expect from Pedroia this season?

Also, Gonzo will outperform Helton by leaps and bounds this season. No comparison IMO.

Andy Tu La Daddy · Post by **Andy Tu La Daddy** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:19 am

Gekko,

I like your main event team but I can't say that I love it.

It is incredibly conservative and you will be spending your FAAB on a closer who hopefully does not kill your WHIP and ERA when you finally get one.

In order to win the $100,000, at least in my opinion, you need to take some more chances. That said, you are a quality manager and I wish you the best of luck!

Between Cueto and Volquez you've gotten at least one major sleeper in the rotation.

Lunatic · Post by **Lunatic** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:06 am

well Mark, I was able to sit in on the Super Draft on Sunday and watch you draft from the 6 hole (where I drafted from in the Main Event; not a bad team at all and we have some similar players from that spot; (I am just happy Rollins went before Holliday) here is my team from the 6-hole on Saturday:

Holliday

Berkman

D. Lee

Figgins

M. Young

Oswalt

Dice K

Valverde

Pedro

Hermida

Wang

Polanco

Marmol

Votto

Towles

Kubel

Marcum

Ellis

Snyder

M. Diaz

Slowey

Moylan

Gaithright

Ethier

Mora

O. Hernandez

Loewen

C. Guzman

J. Jones

Benoit

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:14 am

I drafted against Mark (picking 4th, never expected to get David Wright) and it was alot of fun (but a little long:

Doumit

Navarro

C. Jackson

Weeks

Tulo

D.Wright

K. Greene

Sexson

Granderson

Kemp

Hamilton

Ellsbury

Adam Jones

Melky Cabrera

Liriano

Pedro

Hughes

Garza

Baker

D. Cabrera

Parra

Corpas

Wood

Mussina

Anthony Reyes

Neshek

Delcarmen

Al Reyes

Eric Chavez

Denorfia

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:21 am

GG: who did you take in the second round in the Super? DLee or Vladdy?

Thanks