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Mark DeRosa to Cleveland, Surprising in that DeRosa was supposed to be a piece in a trade for Peavy or someone else.



Brian Fuentes to Anaheim, a bargain. The recession is having an effect on the non-top drawer free agents. Early drafts owners of Arredondo may now start shouting obscenities.



Marquis to Colorado, the Cubs get rid of payroll. The Rockies get a pitcher that is used to lines of 3 ip, 11 h, 10 er, 1k, 4 bb. Those lines may be extended as Rocky starters are expected to stay in games longer, no matter the pain. He may set some kind of record.



Luis Vizcaino to Chicago, a Roto writeup was hilarious saying that this is a good move for Chicago if Vizcaino can reduce his walks and home runs. Sort of like saying that if David DeJesus can start stealing bases and hit more home runs, he can help a fantasy team more.



Aaron Miles to the Cubs,....crickets....



[ December 31, 2008, 02:40 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

the cubs are on the move- per vanders posts. derosa most valuable asset is - he is a great team guy and a leader. played where lou told him to. played well. never complained. i suppose the cubs think they are "selling high" and moving some payroll. if they wanted to do that- trade the waaaaaay over rated soriano. but cub fans love that guy. hendry may be regressing to the mean here and going back to the "stars that lose" formula that has worked for 100 years over in wrigley.

Luis Vizcaino to Chicago, a Roto writeup was hilarious saying that this is a good move for Chicago if Vizcaino can reduce his walks and home runs. Sort of like saying that if David DeJesus can start stealing bases and hit more home runs, he can help a fantasy team more.Did you mean to say 'improve' rather than 'reduce'?

I was paraphrasing...but wouldn't "reducing" his bb's and hr's "improve" his performance?

I like your signature, btw. Sort of like my plans for this evening.

As a Cleveland fan, any deal that means Andy Marte will not be playing 3B on a regular basis is good for me. Looks like Derosa will be a one year stop-gap til Wes Hodges is ready. The fact that they didn't give up any of the orginization's top 10 prospects shows that the market for Derosa just wasn't where the Cubs had hoped it would be. Nice deal for the Tribe.

As a Cleveland fan, any deal that means Andy Marte will not be playing 3B on a regular basis is good for me. Looks like Derosa will be a one year stop-gap til Wes Hodges is ready. The fact that they didn't give up any of the orginization's top 10 prospects shows that the market for Derosa just wasn't where the Cubs had hoped it would be. Nice deal for the Tribe.

Originally posted by headhunters:

the cubs are on the move- per vanders posts. derosa most valuable asset is - he is a great team guy and a leader. played where lou told him to. played well. never complained. i suppose the cubs think they are "selling high" and moving some payroll. if they wanted to do that- trade the waaaaaay over rated soriano. but cub fans love that guy. hendry may be regressing to the mean here and going back to the "stars that lose" formula that has worked for 100 years over in wrigley. Moving salaries during the recession has to be tough. The Cubs will not trade Soriano, not because of any allegiance, there is just nobody around that will take that contract off their hands for fair value.

What the Cubs do during the coming weeks will determine if they are shaving payroll or setting themselves up for a big signing or trade. With the signing of Dempster at 52 million over four years, I'd bet on an upcoming move. Getting Marquis' contract off their hands was sly. The DeRosa trade suggests that they are not making another trade, but preparing for a signing, such as Bradley or Abreu.

I didn't like the Dempster signing, but I believe the Cubs are on the right track. Cedeno and Fontenot may platoon at 2b and with an Abreu signing they can be a force again.

Personally, I think signing Bradley would be a mistake. Injuries aside, eventually big ego's and personalities collide. Piniella, Zambrano, and Bradley in the same clubhouse? A pay-per-view event.

if professional sports has taught me anything it is there is always at least one dumb gm. out there. not much to argue about- but if you add all your posts up i think you would have to agree with that statement; so i think the cubs could have traded soriano. now let us see which really bad defensive outfielder the cubs sign. i think bradley is perfect- because he will start out healthy and great and slowly erode- a perfect fit for those playoffs.

Originally posted by headhunters:

if professional sports has taught me anything it is there is always at least one dumb gm. out there. not much to argue about- but if you add all your posts up i think you would have to agree with that statement; so i think the cubs could have traded soriano. now let us see which really bad defensive outfielder the cubs sign. i think bradley is perfect- because he will start out healthy and great and slowly erode- a perfect fit for those playoffs. No, the Cubs could not trade Soriano. Soriano's contract is still worth well over 100 million. Look around, bad gm's, good gm's, the only team giving 100 million dollar contracts are the Yankees. In fact the Cubs are a poor second this off season with the signing of Dempster for 52 million.

The bad gm's are being told no by their owners, and the good ones wouldn't do it.

I agree about Bradley. If I am a gm, he wouldn't even be a thought in my mind to sign. The injuries and baggage alone would stop me. He has talent, but I'd let it shine on someone elses team.

I haven't heard any rumors about Bobby Abreu. A guy that still displays decent power and speed and a real good obp should be getting more attention. Given the right team, he can be a terrific sign. Hitting second between Soriano and Lee or hitting third in front of Holliday for the A's, or hitting second between Reyes and Beltran for the Mets come to mind.

Abreu supposedly in discussions with the Angels

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Abreu supposedly in discussions with the Angels Hmm, good for the Angels, they continue to make good moves.

I also would not be surprised to see the Angels swoop in and get Manny.

Another roto note that is too funny.



'The Rockies are still expressing interest in Tim Redding even after acquiring Jason Marquis through a trade.'



Nobody has ever cornered the market on mediocrity. The Rockies are giving it a go.

Hmmm, I suppose if I had to chose I could reconsider my position on Milton Bradley............................

Red Sox sgin two!



John Smoltz and Rocco Baldelli



Smoltz will add his name for a spot in the rotation that already has Beckett, Lester, Dice K, Wakefield, Penny, Buchholz, Bowden, Masterson and Tazawa (Sept call up at best).



I love Buchholz but I'm starting to think Boston will be moving him to Texas for a catcher.



*Smoltz to get roster bonus if back by June 1st

Snord you may be correct - I had noted elsewhere that even before Laird was traded, Texas was looking to move a catcher (or two if they found the right deals)and that Boston had inquired about trading for Saltalamacchia.....the Rangers wisely listened and said.....sure for Buchholz - which derailed talks.



Now months later, the Rangers are still looking for more pitching (they have several excellent pitching prospects in the lower levels, but not quite ready for prime time)and the Red Sox have signed a part time catcher in Bard but have signed more pitching.......so it is more possible.



Frankly I am not sure why they are in such a hurry to bury Buchholz, but perhaps the pressure to win NOW....and their feeling he needs more development will lead to a trade.

everyone makes mistakes and the red sox might make one if they trade bucky- but history says- if you want to trade a pitcher you are down on for whatever reason, texas is the place to go. maybe he is hurt or not the guy they thought he was- or they really are high on one of the catchers. pedroia can't be the only flyball/pull hitter in baseball. maybe one of those catchers is. on the other hand "you can't have enough pitching" is still a good motto to live by these days. we shall see.

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Brewers have agreed to terms with free agent Trevor Hoffman on a one-year, $6 million contract.



Thank god the Dodgers didn't sign the right handed Jamie Moyer. I know he can still get outs, but you have enough solid arms in your pen to not have to waste money on Trevor. Of course me having Broxton in the SCL doesn't sway my thoughts at all.

Originally posted by Hard Heads:

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Brewers have agreed to terms with free agent Trevor Hoffman on a one-year, $6 million contract.



Thank god the Dodgers didn't sign the right handed Jamie Moyer. I know he can still get outs, but you have enough solid arms in your pen to not have to waste money on Trevor. Of course me having Broxton in the SCL doesn't sway my thoughts at all. Likewise, I like Hoff with my 14th round pick as the MIL closer. But Broxton may still be a risk for LA saves ...

Damn Theo Epstein...why cant the Mets have him. Smoltz was a great signing. His upside is adding a number one starter to an already good rotation. Another scenario has him as a dominant set-up guy for Paps...either way there is a guy who hates to lose AND has great ability.



Baldelli...I didnt see the signing figure yet, but is there anyone else who thinks that this is a top line OF in his prime years, who has now received positive medical news?



I am green.

Greg Gagne, Trevor Hoffman is Milw the place wher closers go to die?

Originally posted by Schwks:

Greg Gagne, Trevor Hoffman is Milw the place wher closers go to die? Greg Gagne didn't close many games, but Eric Gagne did end up finally dying in Milwaukee. I think the process started in texas or Boston though.

Wrong name, but you get the idea...didn they learn their lesson last year?

Another wonderful roto update-



'Susan Slusser of the SF Chronicle believes that Oakland gm Billy Beane may consider signing Bobby Abreu if his price tag drops.'



Startling news...much like ....



Greg Ambrosius of the NFBC believes that his fantasy team may consider taking Scott Kazmir in the eighth round if he hasn't taken him sooner.