Mock Draft #2

Sheep · Post by **Sheep** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:22 am

5.01 S Victorino (KJ Duke)

5.02 CC Sabathia (Vander)

5.03 J Beckett (Sheep)

5.04 D Haren (God loves you)

5.05 F Cordero (DAK)

5.06 R Cano (Headhunters)

5.07 B Webb (Chester Rockwell)

5.08 C Jones (EliGrimmett)

5.09 R Furcal (Doughboys)

5.10 J Lackey (Brilee’s Brigade)

5.11 J Verlander (Hard Heads)

5.12 C Hamels (Berkshire Juggernauts)

5.13 J Valverde (Edward Kings)

5.14 G Sheffield (Asumijet)

5.15 S Kazmir (Dickie V)

6.01 A Harang (Dickie V)

6.02 T Saito (Asumijet)

6.03 P Konerko (Edwards Kings)

6.04 C Zambrano (Berkshire Juggernauts)

6.05 R Halladay (Hard Heads)

6.06 R Weeks (Brilee's Brigade)

6.07 A Gonzalez (Doughboys)

6.08 V Wells(EliGrimmett)

6.09 C Young SP(Chest Rockwell)

6.10 M Tejeda(Headhunters)

6.11 J Bay (DAK)

6.12 B Hawpe (God Loves You)

6.13 M Young(Sheep)

6.14 B Wagner (Vander)

6.15 R Oswalt (KJ Duke)

7.1 A Rowand (KJ Duke)

7.2 R Zimmerman(Vander)

7.3 D Uggla(Sheep)

7.4 J Shields(God Loves You)

7.5 E Renteria (DAK)

7.6 F Hernandez (Headhunters)

7.7 M Rivera(Chester Rockwell)

7.8 B Jenks(EliGrimmett)

7.9 H Matsui (Doughboys)

7.10 A Jones(Brilee’s Brigade)

7.11 H Street(Hard Heads)

7.12 DE Young(Berkshire Juggernauts)

7.13 J Posoda(Edward Kings)

7.14 Francouer(Asumijet)

7.15 Thome(Dickie V)

8.1 J Dye (Dickie V)

8.2 R Hill(Asumijet)

8.3 A Beltre(Edward Kings)

8.4 T Hoffman (Berkshire Juggernauts)

8.5 J Loney (Hard Heads)

8.6 B Lidge (Brilee's Brigade)

8.7 J Smoltz (Doughboys)

8.8 M Cain (Eli Grimmett)

8.9 J Damon (Chester Rockwell)

8.10 J Vazquez (Headhunters)

8.11 B Sheets (DAK)

8.12 K Johjima (God loves You)

8.13 T Helton (sheep)

8.14 J Maine (Vander)

8.15 F Carmona (KJ Duke)

9.1 M Corpas (KJ Duke)

9.2 M Capps (Vander)

9.3 B Myers (Sheep)

9.4 H Kendrick (God Loves You)

9.5 E Encarcion (DAK)

9.6 O Cabrera (Headhunters)

9.7 A Gordon (Chester Rockwell)

9.8 F Liriano (Eli Grimmett)

9.9 J Isringhausen (Doughboys)

9.10 D Matsuzaka (Brilee's Brigade)

9.11 T Lincecum (Hard Heads)

9.12 J Satalamacchia (Berkshire Juggernauts)

Edward Kings up

Asumijet on deck

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:59 am

C. Delgado, NYM, 1B

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:01 am

Saltalamacchia in the 9th in both early mocks...interesting...very interesting!

Asumijet · Post by **Asumijet** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:02 am

9.14 Escobar - P (LAA)

Dickie V · Post by **Dickie V** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:35 am

9. 15 Wang p 10. 1 C Billingsley p

Asumijet · Post by **Asumijet** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:12 pm

10.2 K. Greene (SS)

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:59 pm

10.3 Julio Lugo

Berkshire Juggernauts · Post by **Berkshire Juggernauts** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:49 am

10:4 C. Cordero Was

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:09 am

Nick Swisher

Brilee's Brigade · Post by **Brilee's Brigade** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:27 pm

JJ Hardy ss MIL

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:14 am

Penny, sp, LA

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:33 am

James Shields

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:40 am

Originally posted by EliGrimmett:

James Shields Eli, you're 3 rounds to late for Shields.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:59 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by EliGrimmett:

James Shields Eli, you're 3 rounds to late for Shields. [/QUOTE]Or you have his value correct for any draft that Patrick does not participate in...

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:10 am

Lilly

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:57 am

AJ Burnett

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:45 am

raul ibanez

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:48 am

10-11 J Bonderman P

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:12 pm

10.12 Jeremy Hermida

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:20 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by EliGrimmett:

James Shields Eli, you're 3 rounds to late for Shields. [/QUOTE]Or you have his value correct for any draft that Patrick does not participate in... [/QUOTE]....or I'm playing with the upcoming seasons stats...200+K's, ERA 3.50, WHIP 1.07, 16 wins...these stats actually merit a selection higher than the 7th .

Shields is one of the better pitchers in baseball. If he played in a big market, he would be getting a lot more love than he does playing in the dungeon down here.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:23 pm

BTW, Shields could easily have an ERA in the high 2's.....3.50 is probably to high.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:41 am

I like Shields. Like everyone else, he was one of my "sleepers"

last year.

His age, arm and experience level (52 career starts) are all positive (wish the Bravos had him). Shields pitched generally well all year especially if you discount that one 10 ER start vs the NYY. Absent that start, his road and home records (ERA, WHIP, K) are great. Can't predict wins especially in TB, but barring injury he is going to be a top ten round pick for years.

I do have concerns. He pitched a lot of innings the last two years (Minors and Majors '06 186.0 IP, and 215.0 IP) after only pitching 115 or so the year before. It would not be unusual to have a dead arm period in '08. Also, TB may of protected him a bit last year. Of his 31 starts, 11 were against ANA, KC, MIN, FLA, and BLT (5!) in which he only gave up more than 4 ER once and made it through the 7th in all but two. He did pitch well enough (NYY notwithstanding) against the others, but did give up 5 or more ER in 25% of those remaining 20 games and couldn't make through the 7th in 8 of them.

No big surprise, Wayne, he pitched better against the weaker sisters, but if he assumes his rightful place at the top of the staff with Kazmir, his stats could suffer (ERA and WHIP).

Just thoughts. I am very high on him and would still take him, if not my #1 pitcher then a very strong #2.

[ November 16, 2007, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:05 am

Good info Wayne. I like him too it's tampa I'm unsure of, although even there, they s/b better. How is Longoria defensively?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:11 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

BTW, Shields could easily have an ERA in the high 2's.....3.50 is probably to high. And you could just as easily be making a 1300 dollar donation- got to check your love for the home team at the door young wise one.

I like you Patrick- I hope you change your homer ways or prove me wrong in 2008. That is unless I switch back to Orlando.

Wayne- I will say it for the 100th time- I learn from you every year and you finish bottom of the pack every year. It has to change this year- I am the first to call it Wayne Edwards finishes top 25 in the nfbc in 2008.

[ November 16, 2007, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:13 pm

sheep you are up