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Ok if KJ takes Arod #1 I will draft 2nd and take H. Ramirez. Who's got #3? I think the draft has moved ok certainly better than the 2005 draft which took 3 months or something for about 9 rounds. The only thing I would ask if your participating in this please check at least once a day to make your picks or forward possible choices to another on the boards. Thanks and good drafting.

1 KJDuke – A-Rod-D Lee-Granderson-Torri - Victorino I Oswalt - Rowand -Corpas - Carmona - Pedro -

Peralta - Gregg - Wainwright - Kouzmanoff - Ellis -TY - T Jones

2 Vander – H-Ram - Ichiro - Markakis -Dunn - CC Sab I Wagner - Zimmerman - Maine- Capps - Kemp -

Lowell - Ol Perez - Kaz -Votto - Willy Mo - James - AJ Pierznski

3 Sheep - Reyes - V Mart - Atkins - Mauer - Beckett I M Young - Uggla - Helton - Myers - Soriano -

Cuddyer - JR - Francis - Rocco - Teahan - JD Drew - Bush

4 God LYOU - Wright - Martin - Tulo - Bedard - Haren I Hawpe - J Shileds - Kenji- Kendrick -Hermida -

Snell - Taveras - Garko - Longoria - Grienke - Percival-Wood

5 DAK - Pujols -Upton - Roberts - McCann-F. Cordero I Bay - Renteria - Sheets - E Encarcion - Bonderman

LaRoche - Guillen - Blanton -Gagne - Fukudome - A Reyes - Kearns

6 Headhunters– J Rollins - Rios - Abrue - Putz - Cano I Tejeda -Felix H - Vazquez - O Cabrera - Ibanez

Gallardo - Hamilton - Lowe -Mathhews - Glaus - B Molina - Unit

7 Chester – Utley - Berkman - Manny - Pierre - Webb I CYoung(SP)-M Rivera - Damon - Gordon - Burnett -

Pudge - Soria - Winn - S Drew - Harden - Hudson - Pena (RP)

8 EliGrimm –Holliday - Teixera - Brynes -Hart - Chipper I V Wells - Jenks - Cain - Liriano -Lilly -

McGowan - A Hill - F.Lopez - Byrd - Cameron - BJ Ryan - Barton

9 Doughboys - Soriano - Vlad - Mags - C.Pena - Furcal I A Gonz - Godzilla - Smoltz - Issy - Penny

Pedoria - Youkilis - Ellsbury - Buccholtz - Pettite - Schilling - Hall

10 Brilee's Brig-Howard - C.Lee - Aram - K-rod - Lackey I Weeks - AJones - Lidge - Dice-k - Hardy

Butler - Willingham - Me Cabera - Justin Upton -Soto - Willis - Schneider

11 HardHeads-Sizemore-Phillips-Hafner-Pence-Verlander I Halladay -Street -Loney -Lincecum-Swisher

Fields - Burrell - Bartlett - Jerad Weaver - R Hernandez - Iguchi - Sexson - >>>>>>>>>>>>

12 Berkshire J - Crawford -Ortiz-Justin M- Jeter-Hamels I Carlos Z-DeYoung-Hoffman-Salty-CCordera -

Hughes - Blalock - Ankiel - K Johnson - Cust - Meche - Escobar - Wandy

13 Edward K- Santana-Beltran-CGullien-Kinsler-Velverda I Korenko - Posado - Beltre - Delgado - Lugo -

Patterson - Arroyo - Borowski - Zito - Buehrle -Coco - Gorzelanny - Rolen

14 Asumijet -Cabrera-Peavy -Figgens-Nathan-Sheffield I Saito - Francouer - Hill - Escobar - Greene -

Joba - T Hudson - J Bruce - Kent - Overbay -Castillo - Kuroda - Baily

15 Dickie V -Braun-Fielder-C Young(OF)-Papelbon-Kazmir I Harang - Thome - Dye - Wang -Billingsley

Owens - Marmol - Sanchez - Polanco - Garza- B Wilson - Jacobs - Towles



2.01 Fielder (Dickie V)

2.02 J Peavy (Asumijet)

2.03 C Beltran (Edwards Kings)

2.04 D Ortiz (Berkshire Juggernauts)

2.05 B Phillips(Hard Heads)

2.06 C Lee (Brilee's Brigade)

2.07 V Guerrero (Doughboys)

2.08 M Teixeira (EliGrimmett)

2.09 L Berkman (Chest Rockwell)

2.10 A Rios (Headhunters)

2.11 BJ Upton (DAK)

2.12 R Martin (GLU)

2.13 V Martinez (Sheep)

2.14 I Suzuki (Vander)

2.15 Derrek Lee (KJ Duke)

3.01 C Granderson(KJ Duke)

3.02 N Markakis (Vander)

3.03 G Atkins (Sheep)

3.04 T Tulowitzki (God loves you)

3.05 B Roberts (DAK)

3.06 B Abreu (Headhunters)

3.07 M Ramirez (Chester Rockwell)

3.08 E Byrnes (EliGrimmett)

3.09 M Ordonez (Doughboys)

3.10 A Ramirez (Brilee’s Brigade)

3.11 T Hafner (Hard Heads)

3.12 J Morneau (Berkshire Juggernauts)

3.13 C Guillen (Edward Kings)

3.14 C Figgins (Asumijet)

3.15 C Young (OF) (Dickie V)

4.01 J Paplebon (Dickie V)

4.02 J Nathan (Asumijet)

4.03 I Kinsler (Edwards Kings)

4.04 D Jeter (Berkshire Juggernauts)

4.05 H Pence (Hard Heads)

4.06 F Rodriguez (Brilee's Brigade)

4.07 C Pena (Doughboys)

4.08 C Hart (EliGrimmett)

4.09 J Pierre (Chest Rockwell)

4.10 JJ Putz (Headhunters)

4.11 B McCann (DAK)

4.12 E Bedard (GLU)

4.13 J Mauer (Sheep)

4.14 A Dunn (Vander)

4.15 T Hunter (KJ Duke)

5.01 S Victorino (KJ Duke)

5.02 CC Sabathia (Vander)

5.03 J Beckett (Sheep)

5.04 D Haren (God loves you)

5.05 F Cordero (DAK)

5.06 R Cano (Headhunters)

5.07 B Webb (Chester Rockwell)

5.08 C Jones (EliGrimmett)

5.09 R Furcal (Doughboys)

5.10 J Lackey (Brilee’s Brigade)

5.11 J Verlander (Hard Heads)

5.12 C Hamels (Berkshire Juggernauts)

5.13 J Valverde (Edward Kings)

5.14 G Sheffield (Asumijet)

5.15 S Kazmir (Dickie V)

6.01 A Harang (Dickie V)

6.02 T Saito (Asumijet)

6.03 P Konerko (Edwards Kings)

6.04 C Zambrano (Berkshire Juggernauts)

6.05 R Halladay (Hard Heads)

6.06 R Weeks (Brilee's Brigade)

6.07 A Gonzalez (Doughboys)

6.08 V Wells(EliGrimmett)

6.09 C Young SP(Chest Rockwell)

6.10 M Tejeda(Headhunters)

6.11 J Bay (DAK)

6.12 B Hawpe (God Loves You)

6.13 M Young(Sheep)

6.14 B Wagner (Vander)

6.15 R Oswalt (KJ Duke)

7.1 A Rowand (KJ Duke)

7.2 R Zimmerman(Vander)

7.3 D Uggla(Sheep)

7.4 J Shields(God Loves You)

7.5 E Renteria (DAK)

7.6 F Hernandez (Headhunters)

7.7 M Rivera(Chester Rockwell)

7.8 B Jenks(EliGrimmett)

7.9 H Matsui (Doughboys)

7.10 A Jones(Brilee’s Brigade)

7.11 H Street(Hard Heads)

7.12 DE Young(Berkshire Juggernauts)

7.13 J Posoda(Edward Kings)

7.14 Francouer(Asumijet)

7.15 Thome(Dickie V)

8.1 J Dye (Dickie V)

8.2 R Hill(Asumijet)

8.3 A Beltre(Edward Kings)

8.4 T Hoffman (Berkshire Juggernauts)

8.5 J Loney (Hard Heads)

8.6 B Lidge (Brilee's Brigade)

8.7 J Smoltz (Doughboys)

8.8 M Cain (Eli Grimmett)

8.9 J Damon (Chester Rockwell)

8.10 J Vazquez (Headhunters)

8.11 B Sheets (DAK)

8.12 K Johjima (God loves You)

8.13 T Helton (sheep)

8.14 J Maine (Vander)

8.15 F Carmona (KJ Duke)

9.1 M Corpas (KJ Duke)

9.2 M Capps (Vander)

9.3 B Myers (Sheep)

9.4 H Kendrick (God Loves You)

9.5 E Encarcion (DAK)

9.6 O Cabrera (Headhunters)

9.7 A Gordon (Chester Rockwell)

9.8 F Liriano (Eli Grimmett)

9.9 J Isringhausen (Doughboys)

9.10 D Matsuzaka (Brilee's Brigade)

9.11 T Lincecum (Hard Heads)

9.12 J Satalamacchia (Berkshire Juggernauts)

9.13 C Delgado (Edward Kings)

9.14 K Escabor (Asumijet)

9.15 CM Wang (Dickie V)



10.1 C Billinglsey (Dickie V)

10.2 K Greene (Asumijet)

10.3 J Lugo (Edward Kings)

10.4 C Cordero (Berkshire Juggernauts)

10.5 N Swisher (Hard Heads)

10.6 JJ Hardy (Brilee's Brigade)

10.7 B Penny (Doughboys)

10.8 T Lilly (Eli Grimmet)

10.9 AJ Burnett (Chester Rockwell)

10.10 R Ibanez (Headhunters)

10.11 J Bonderman (DAK)

10.12 J Hermida (God loves you)

10.13 R Soriano (Sheep)

10.14 M Kemp (Vander)

10.15 J Peralta (KJ Duke)



11.01 Pedro (KJ Duke)

11.02 M Lowell (Vander)

11.03 M Cuddyer (Sheep)

11.04 I Snell (GLU)

11.05 Adam LaRoche (DAK)

11.06 Y Gallardo (HH)

11.07 I Rodriguez (Chest)

11.08 D McGowen (Eli)

11.9 D Pedrora (Doughboys)

11.10 J Fields (HardHeads)

11.11 B Butler (BB)out of order due to Kemp

11.13 C Patterson (E Kings)

11.14 J Camberlian (Asumijet)

11.15 J Owens (Dickie V)



12.01 C Marmol (Dickie V)

12.02 T Hudson (Asumijet)

12.03 B Arroyo (Edward Kings)

12.04 H Blalock (Berkshire Juggernauts)

12.05 P Burrell (Hard Heads)

12.06 J Willingham (Brilee's Brigade)

12.07 K Youklis (Doughboys)

12.08 A Hill (Eli et al)

12.09 J Soria (Chester Rockwell)



15.01 Ellis M KJ Duke

15.02 Pena W Vander

15.03 Teahan M Sheep

15.04 Greinke Z GLU

15.05 Fukudome K DAK

15.06 Glaus T Headhunters

15.07 Harden R Chest Rockwell

15.08 Cameron M EliGrimmett

15.09 Pettite A Doughboys

15.10 Soto G Brilee’s Brigade

15.11 Hernandez R Hard Heads

15.12 Cust J Berkshire Juggernaughts

15.13 Buehrle M Edwards Kings

15.14 Overbay L Asumijet

15.15 Garza M Dickie V

16.01 Wilson B Dickie V

16.02 Castillo L Asumijet

16.03 Crisp C Edwards Kings

16.04 Meche G Berkshire Juggernaughts

16.05 Iguchi T Hard Heads

16.06 Willis D Brilee’s Brigade

16.07 Schilling C Doughboys

16.08 Ryan BJ EliGrimmett

16.09 Hudson O Chest Rockwell

16.10 Molina B Headhunters

16.11 Reyes A DAK

16.12 Percival T GLU

16.13 Drew JD Sheep

16.14 James C Vander

16.15 Jones T KJ Duke

17.01 Wigginton T KJ Duke

17.02 Pierzynski AJ Vander

17.03 Bush D Sheep



[ December 19, 2007, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: Sheep ]

1.4 David Wright

1-5 Pujols

1-6 rollins

I would like to take pick 10 please

1 KJ Duke – A Rodriguez

2 Vander – H Ramirez

3 Sheep - J Reyes

4 God Loves You - D Wright

5 DAK - A Pujols

6 Headhunters – J Rollins

7 Chester Rockwell–

8 EliGrimmett –

9 Doughboys -

10 Brilee's Brigade -

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12

13

14

15

Utley

Holliday

I will take anything between 11-15 if nobody has an issue with a rookie joining.

I will just chime in when a pick rolls in if it's ok.

Soriano, of, Chi

Where do I draft in this league?

Originally posted by BudFox:

Where do I draft in this league? Pick an open spot and go for it.

Ryan Howard 1B Phil

I'll take 11 and pick Sizemore-Clev

1 A Rodriguez (KJ Duke)

2 H Ramirez (Vander)

3 J Reyes (Sheep)

4 D Wright (God loves you)

5 A Pujols (DAK)

6 J Rollins (headhunters)

7 C Utley (Chester Rockwell)

8 M Holliday (EliGrimmett)

9 A Soriano (Doughboys)

10 R Howard (Brilee’s Brigade)

11 G Sizemore (Hard Heads)

12

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14

15

ok, while I think that pujols was a big disapointment this last year, I don't think wright goes before him in many leagues!

Ill jump in Carl Crawford

So as not to hog the fun, I have been waiting to see if any others were beating down the door to be involved. I think a reasonable amount of time has passed, so I will jump in and totally out of my given "style":



Lucky 13, J. Santana.



I think he pitches up North somewhere.

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

ok, while I think that pujols was a big disapointment this last year, I don't think wright goes before him in many leagues! Pretty much I have disagreed with your assesment on every player for 08 status and what round they should go in. The trend continues with that statement. I not only have Wright over Pujols they may not even be back to back in my rankings.



Now Wright before Rollins is an interesting debate IMO.

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

ok, while I think that pujols was a big disapointment this last year, I don't think wright goes before him in many leagues! No offense to Greg, Tom, and all other writer or expert types....Spy, a job awaits you at a fantasy baseball magazine.

I guarantee that nine of 10 magazines(it is so cool that so many cover the subject now) will have Pujols rated above both Rollins and Wright. Why? Three reasons.

1.Because King Albert was a #1 pick or close to it for so many years and his drop off, although noticable, wasn't dramatic.

2.His consistency has been so high for so many years that the chances of him having a bounceback year is not out of the realm.

3.ARod. If he can bounce back after a down year, why can't Albert?

Now, lets get real. I'll leave Rollins out of the equation since he is more of an apples-oranges thing with regards to position, speed, and roles on their team.

First, lets list Albert's negatives.

1. No protection in the lineup

2. Power is on the decline

3. Fewest home runs of his career last year while at the same time having the most bb's. A product of both one and two and also a stat that looks to only worsen for the forseeable future

4. No SB help

5. Where does his RBI come from? Eckstein? Miles? Ryan? The non-pitcher hitting 9th?

6. Plays through injury. I know. This is supposed to be be a good thing, right? No. In real life it's great, the star player battling being hurt and staying in the lineup for the sake of his Manger and teammates. Commendable. Fantasy life? A drag on every category from your #1 pick and no thought of replacing him because of no idea when he'll break out and/or heel from his hurts. Beltran, Manny, Aramis, and Carl Crawford owners know too well how this can hurt their team.

To make this a little shorter, all the negatives for Albert but #6 are positives for Wright.

I do hope that when those 10 magazines come out that Krause will have the one that rates Wright over Pujols. Although Pujols gives Spy and probably most magazines that comfy feeling, I'll take Wright and know that I've won round one over your team.

thanks doughboys- i can now move my #1 kds from 6 to 5. can't really believe you think reyes will be standing on second more than eckstein when wright/pulhos come up- or that beltran delgado protect more than ankiel or duncan- but like i said- i keep seeing your team up there.

Where's Lance? He was always a big Pujols supporter (if I remember correctly) He may have even won a few wagers on him in 2006...

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

Where's Lance? He was always a big Pujols supporter (if I remember correctly) He may have even won a few wagers on him in 2006... Lance has not woke up from his bender last night.

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Now Wright before Rollins is an interesting debate IMO.



As well as Reyes-Rollins