We, And the ADP
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:43 am
A friend in the NFBC called me last week. During the conversation, he stated that he thought Jose Altuve's ADP was off.
I agreed.
11 for a high average judy is a high price.
He said, "No, no, he should be higher. He should be going in the McCutchen or Carlos Gomez area."
I asked why.
He let me know that Altuve had double digit homers in two minor league seasons. One year, hitting 15.
In his reckoning, Altuve could be a 15/60 player. And as such, he should be a player drafted with the elite.
I disagreed, but respected his thoughts.
In a draft after our conversation, I asked how he did.
He rattled off the players he had drafted....including McCutchen.
"Wait...wait a minute", I said. "You took McCutchen, a 25/18 guy at an Outfield spot over your 15/60 guy at 2B?"
He replied, "Yeah, but I'm almost guaranteed those numbers with McCutchen!"
This has A LOT to do with why our adp IS our adp.
Some of like our security more than our own theories.
Look at Giancarlo Stanton. He's powerful. Strong. He can hit the ball out of JellyStone Park.
We've known that for years. Still, he has never been a top 5 pick.
Until this year.
What's different?
Trust.
He stayed mostly healthy for a year and hit those homers. Now, he is trusted.
Not the security blanket that McCutchen is, but trusted.
Its taken Carlos Gonzalez three years to convince fantasy players that he seemingly prefers the bench to playing.
He's had one September homer over the last three years.
When fantasy players are trying to clinch Championships in September, CarGo is available in FAAB, dropped by a team that will not cash.
CarGo is a five tool player on a roster at the beginning of the year. By August, that tool box is swiped away from us.
And its taken us three years to realize this phenomenom.
He has lost trust.
Bryce Harper's adp is 33.
It falling. We know what Harper is capable of.
He is capable of what Stanton did last year.
Unfortunately, he is more capable of hurting himself. For a fella like Harper, we weigh the possible power and the possible sour.
If not getting hurt, he'll probably be a top 5 pick next year.
If getting hurt, again, he'll join CarGo in being a five tool player who makes us feel like a tool for drafting him.
The Major League season is a long one. It has hurt up and comers. George Springer's adp is 42.
Springer has had injury problems in the minors.
Can he withstand the rigors of a full major league season?
For this season, I say it is doubtful.
Still I drafted him on a team in the fourth round.
This is NOT value.
It is me finding a price point, a price point I was more or less, comfortable in drafting Springer.
There is a reason for every player having the adp that they have.
In a recent draft, David Wright was available in the ninth round. It wasn't till then that I even considered Wright.
I didn't draft him, somebody else did. But, I learned my price point for Wright.
These drafts are learning experience. Each one supplying more information.
Not only about players adp's, but also about ourselves.
I agreed.
11 for a high average judy is a high price.
He said, "No, no, he should be higher. He should be going in the McCutchen or Carlos Gomez area."
I asked why.
He let me know that Altuve had double digit homers in two minor league seasons. One year, hitting 15.
In his reckoning, Altuve could be a 15/60 player. And as such, he should be a player drafted with the elite.
I disagreed, but respected his thoughts.
In a draft after our conversation, I asked how he did.
He rattled off the players he had drafted....including McCutchen.
"Wait...wait a minute", I said. "You took McCutchen, a 25/18 guy at an Outfield spot over your 15/60 guy at 2B?"
He replied, "Yeah, but I'm almost guaranteed those numbers with McCutchen!"
This has A LOT to do with why our adp IS our adp.
Some of like our security more than our own theories.
Look at Giancarlo Stanton. He's powerful. Strong. He can hit the ball out of JellyStone Park.
We've known that for years. Still, he has never been a top 5 pick.
Until this year.
What's different?
Trust.
He stayed mostly healthy for a year and hit those homers. Now, he is trusted.
Not the security blanket that McCutchen is, but trusted.
Its taken Carlos Gonzalez three years to convince fantasy players that he seemingly prefers the bench to playing.
He's had one September homer over the last three years.
When fantasy players are trying to clinch Championships in September, CarGo is available in FAAB, dropped by a team that will not cash.
CarGo is a five tool player on a roster at the beginning of the year. By August, that tool box is swiped away from us.
And its taken us three years to realize this phenomenom.
He has lost trust.
Bryce Harper's adp is 33.
It falling. We know what Harper is capable of.
He is capable of what Stanton did last year.
Unfortunately, he is more capable of hurting himself. For a fella like Harper, we weigh the possible power and the possible sour.
If not getting hurt, he'll probably be a top 5 pick next year.
If getting hurt, again, he'll join CarGo in being a five tool player who makes us feel like a tool for drafting him.
The Major League season is a long one. It has hurt up and comers. George Springer's adp is 42.
Springer has had injury problems in the minors.
Can he withstand the rigors of a full major league season?
For this season, I say it is doubtful.
Still I drafted him on a team in the fourth round.
This is NOT value.
It is me finding a price point, a price point I was more or less, comfortable in drafting Springer.
There is a reason for every player having the adp that they have.
In a recent draft, David Wright was available in the ninth round. It wasn't till then that I even considered Wright.
I didn't draft him, somebody else did. But, I learned my price point for Wright.
These drafts are learning experience. Each one supplying more information.
Not only about players adp's, but also about ourselves.