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Losing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:46 am
by DOUGHBOYS
Sorry, this one isn't too 'uplifting'......

I am an adult softball supervisor in my home town. Our program is nowhere close to what it used to be. We used to have many competitive teams. Now, Mom and Pop teams dominate our softball fields.
Don't tell them that though!
In their minds, when they play, they feel as if everything is on the line.
Although a game could end up 21-19 (mostly because of fielding ineptness, not hitting skills), the losing team will find a reason for losing other than that ineptness.
The umpire made bad calls.
The other team had an illegal player.
A possible illegal bat.
A team can make more than 10 errors in a game and that will not have played a role in the game when re-hashed later at the local pub.

The Pittsburgh Pirates are 69-72.
One of their fans told me that he is still holding out hope for a playoff spot.
He blamed the Pirates year on bad luck.
Injuries surely cut into their Wins. They also seemed to have lost an inordinate amount of close games to other teams.
He said that if the Pirates just had two less injuries and a decent year from Andrew McCutchen, that the Pirates would already have a playoff spot.

The softball team members and this Pirates fan are of the same ilk. Intertwined.
They do not want to lose. And if they do lose, it cannot be themselves that have perpetuated that loss. It has to be an outside source or bad luck.
10 errors by a mediocre softball team is easily forgotten when a close call made by an umpire goes against them.
Just as an injury during a season to Gerritt Cole can change the Pirates fortunes, even though other playoff contenders have lost Kyle Schwarber and Clayton Kershaw.

That team can overlook 10 errors.
Pirate fans can overlook that the Pirates organization has done little to help themselves, even when being in contention.
The same will be said after that team makes 10 errors again the follwing week.
And when the Pirates sign a James Loney type, it will still be bad luck with injuries that made them fade to oblivion.
Blaming ourselves is passe.
It can't be OUR fault.
Losses are for losers and we're not losers!
Even when we lose.

A loss used to make us look at ourselves.
It used to make us look at our teams and see what we can do better.
Now, a loss is more political.
It's finger pointing at something or somebody else.
It makes us feel better.
For some reason.

10 errors and a 69-72 record IS losing.
We used to deal with it.
Now, we don't.

Re: Losing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:05 pm
by Donacion
Hi Dan

I grew up in Pittsburgh now it has been awhile since I left but the Pirates were always a diversion until the real teams suited up its football season and hockey starts soon. The Pirates were always 4th behind the Steelers and the Steelers and the Penguins. The Steelers twice was not a typo. If the Steelers and Penguins behaved the way the Pirates do there would be hell to pay. I wish Mike Tomlin could pull double duty there would be new faces.

Re: Losing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:29 pm
by DOUGHBOYS
Hi Joe.

It's a downright shame about the Pirates. They had a window. A large window to really do something.
Now, it is almost shut.
Clint Hurdle is still the good Manager he was last year and the year before. But when having an organization that gives you John Jaso and David Freese as the missing parts to put the Pirates 'over the top', it is just plain wrong.
That same person told me that the Pirates have the best outfield in baseball.
Although it is understandable to see a fan overstate his team, the outfield was part of their problem.
McCutchen has looked lost most of the year. Marte has lost his power. And Polanco, well, I like Polanco and agreed he could be a star.
They do have the 'makings' of the best outfield, but we haven't seen it.

The Pirates are a righty dominated lineup. Only Polanco and Jaso being left handed.
Still, in almost 1,000 at bats against lefties, they only have 31 home runs off them.
Only N.L. Least teams, Atlanta, Philly, and Miami have less.
Not one player has more than five homers off sothpaws. McCutchen and Polanco.
And yet, Polanco 'rests' against some lefties.

The Pirates actually had more 'hope' last year.
With Taillon and Glasnow on the way, fans were licking their lips.
Josh Bell has seemingly been 'on the way' forever.
Now, a little of that luster has diminished in seeing them at the top level.
Everybody has injuries. Injuries are the easy reason for mediocrity of sports teams.
The Pirates problems run deeper than the disabled list.

Always good hearing from you, Joe!

Re: Losing

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:36 am
by Edwards Kings
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Re: Losing

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:54 am
by DOUGHBOYS
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Ain't it the truth!

I had a softball team that lost by the mercy rule, 16-1 in four innings.
They complained that their game only lasted 40 minutes and were certain they could have made a comeback.
Result- They went home thinking that rules beat them, 1-0.
Eliminating the thought that they mustered one run in four innings of slo-pitch softball.

I Fall victim to the same mentality, yelling via television at a player who underperforms or overperforms on my bench.
I'm the one who placed those players.
Me.
Nobody else.
Me.
dammit

Expounding on that a bit...
I've loved rostering J Baez on my team this year (I call him 'Joan' when not coming through for me).
Baez is a fringe starting player on my mediocre Main Event team.
But, gold to me.
Anytime I put Baez in my starting lineup, he seems to have pleasing statistics.
And on my bench, he seems to take a few days off. Love that.
Makes me look brilliant.
Something that my other players seem bent on reversing.
Especially Aaron Altherr, who constantly flips me the bird from both his place in the starting lineup and bench.

For these very reasons, I probably won't draft Drew Smyly next year.
Smyly is a good-enough pitcher.
One of those pitchers that should be better than he really is.
For me, he is TNT.
He blows up when I start him, brilliant on my bench.
I don't blame Smyly.
He seems to be one of those pitchers that may try harder in a tough matchup and lets up against weaker teams.
Makes me look stupid. I don't need any help with that! I'm already good at stupid.
Since I can't figure him out, we'll part ways.

The mediocrity of my team lies with one person.
Me.
To have a damned good team in the NFBC Main Event, we need to be mainly right in our first few picks, then have a good last 10 picks and great FAAB year.
My last picks from round 20-30 are here...

20. Eddie Rosario
21. Jose Peraza
22. Phil Hughes
23. Josh Tomlin
24. Rich Hill
25. Austin Jackson
26. Javier Baez
27. Nick Markakis
28. Marwin Gonzalez
29. Curt Casali
30. Nate Jones

Although Hill and Tomlin showed flashes of good stuff and Baez has been great for the aforementioned reasons, it's a depressing list.
Leo Durocher once said, "Behind every player who couldn't hit in the Big Leagues, is a scout who thought they could."
I'm that scout.

Re: Losing

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:21 pm
by Edwards Kings
Oh yeah? Look at this wonderful list....

20 6 Garcia, Avisail
21 10 Castro, Jason
22 6 Hicks, Aaron
23 10 Ryu, Hyun-Jin
24 6 Jennings, Desmond
25 10 Holt, Brock
26 6 Butler, Billy
27 10 Adams, Matt
28 6 Diaz, Jumbo
29 10 Castillo, Rusney
30 6 Latos, Mat


OK. I had Latos because he had some early on positive matchups and it worked. I dumped him after four starts faster than my fat Cousin Edna could dig through a quart of Ben & Jerry's. Hicks I had mainly on my bench as security for Ellsbury, whom I picked in the 9th round and is another story. Castro is a top 15 catcher according to the player rate (yeah, I am laughing too!).

Basically an epic flop on the back end of the draft.

Re: Losing

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:44 pm
by cfolson
Here are another 10:
21: Hyun-soo Kim - dumped
22: Jason Castro - dumped
23: Javier Baez - still have
24: David Hernandez - dumped
25: Jesse Hahn - dumped
26: Jeremy Jeffress - dumped (after he lost closing job)
27: Jake Peavy - dumped
28: Tony Watson - dumped
29: Matt Shoemaker - dumped
30: Peter O'Brien - dumped

I do have some good players (not Prince Fielder - 6th round - dumped). This team is currently in 1st in the league, so late picks aren't always crucial...

Re: Losing

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:15 am
by marknym
Hey Dan, I'm competing with you in that Main Event league, in the hunt for 3rd. And that's despite this gem of a back end:

20 Rollins, Jimmy
21 Hicks, Aaron
22 Cabrera, Asdrubal
23 Greene, Shane
24 Rickard, Joey
25 Crawford, Carl
26 Wheeler, Zack
27 Colon, Bartolo
28 Bailey, Homer
29 Hardy, J.J.
30 Givens, Mychal

last year I had the good fortune to finish 6th overall... and what I learned from that experience is that you do not have to have a perfect draft or even need to have a perfect year managing and FAABing... you just have to do it better than a lot of other people, and that comes from a combination of patience, aggression, and of course a good dose of luck. But I sincerely believe we make our own luck by having a sound process that we stick to.

Looking at this last group of picks, my immediate regret is an obvious one, and it was even at the time to an extent... why I couldn't resist stashing both Bailey and Wheeler, after taking a Giolito stash in rd 18... ugh, I don't know. But even worse was that I held all of them for way too long, and missed out on picking up some of the FAAB gems along the way because I didn't clear our roster room. That's something I will never do again.