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Here is the draft order for Las Vegas NFBC League 6, which will draft on Saturday, March 19th at the Rio Hotel & Casino starting promptly at 10 a.m. PST. Good luck to everyone.



LAS VEGAS NFBC LEAGUE 6

1. Doug McCready

2. Don Mathis

3. Mike Cameron

4. Bradley Shairson

5. William Burak

6. Tom Connors

7. Rob Sussman

8. Larry Katz

9. Dohn Terrell Jr.

10. Chris Throop

11. Rich Sutton

12. David Longood

13. Dale Tobias

14. Henry Tang

15. Jim Ferrari



[ March 12, 2005, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Hi league 6, We are coming in from Ca, and are in the 7 spot. Looking forward to a great draft and hoping Beltran is there for us @ 7 !

Only 6 days... and we'll be at the table!



Wire to Wire

Originally posted by Wire2Wire:

hoping Beltran is there for us @ 7 Rigo or Francis? Take your pick.

Looks like the majority of our league is coming in from CA. Guess there won't be any West Coast sleepers in this lge.



Perhaps wire2wire and other middle slots could leave some crumbs on the table for us late round drafters?

King/KJ... What pick are you guys? Team name?



O U T

Where is the rest of our league??? Must be crunching numbers on the rookies!

As they always say in Baseball, "Hope Springs Eternal". We're hoping Santana falls to us at 14 and Randy is available at 17.

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Looks like the majority of our league is coming in from CA. Guess there won't be any West Coast sleepers in this lge.



Perhaps wire2wire and other middle slots could leave some crumbs on the table for us late round drafters? KJ, I thought you were in LV League 1, the "Duck"???

Originally posted by Rototitan:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Looks like the majority of our league is coming in from CA. Guess there won't be any West Coast sleepers in this lge.



Perhaps wire2wire and other middle slots could leave some crumbs on the table for us late round drafters? KJ, I thought you were in LV League 1, the "Duck"??? [/QUOTE]For the NL auction I'm in lge 1, for the main event I'll be right here.

Hey, where is the trash talking??? I will get it started by calling out the guys on the left side of the draft area. What was up with those picks? Common, the right side (position >8) is all over you guys



Chris Throop

Hey Chris, good meeting you & your partner after the draft. We had just passed on Bonds that round, and now he may skip the year



Just took a look at your team... I see you have No official team name on the NFBC league site yet. Team Throop? How about "Sosa Slams his Womack for a Freel and some Sexson" lol



Good luck bro....... We'll be keeping an eye on our rear view for ya!!!



Rob

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

Hey, where is the trash talking??? I will get it started by calling out the guys on the left side of the draft area. What was up with those picks? Common, the right side (position >8) is all over you guys



Chris Throop All I can say is THANK YOU



Who said you can't win in the 14th slot??

"Just took a look at your team... I see you have No official team name on the NFBC league site yet. Team Throop? How about "Sosa Slams his Womack for a Freel and some Sexson" lol "





Now that is funny - I love it. So, I have some some number crunching using Master Ball's projections and I don't like the results.



Pick # Hitting Category Pts Pitching Category Pts Total Category Pts Projected Finish

5 61 56 117 1

4 38 60 98 2

15 38 57 95 3

14 57 35 92 4

6 62 25 87 5

7 29 57 86 6

10 41 42 83 7

9 35 47 82 8

1 49 31 80 9

12 31 48 79 10

11 54 25 79 11

13 17 56 73 12

2 38 25 63 13

8 20 25 45 14

3 30 11 41 15



However, I don't believe my own projections. Note these don't include the recent injuries and quite frankly, I just don't believe my offense will lose to a guy (#5) whose top guy is Orlando Cabrera (according to the March 16 Mastersball data)



I think Sosa will have a monster and Berkman will surprise. My gap is a little on the power side, but I expect to find a good hitter and switch David Roberts in and out as necessary....



Who really knows? Maybe Sammy will hit 50 or 60 or maybe 23, impossible to say



Chris aka Spyhunter

Spy, I think you have the teams wrong. Team 6 picked up O. Cabrera

Also, when you ran your ptojections, how did you decide which players to use as starters, since those are the only ones that get stats, or did you calculate playing time as well?

Chris & League 6 Las Vegas,



We have just crunched our own set of numbers with more up-to date injurys/depth charts/and rankings.You have us 6th??? Dood what R u smoking?



We will post this up here shortly, and in the next few weeks/months we'll see who the better numbers crunchers are.



Rob

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

"Just took a look at your team... I see you have No official team name on the NFBC league site yet. Team Throop? How about "Sosa Slams his Womack for a Freel and some Sexson" lol "





Now that is funny - I love it. So, I have some some number crunching using Master Ball's projections and I don't like the results.



Pick # Hitting Category Pts Pitching Category Pts Total Category Pts Projected Finish

5 61 56 117 1

4 38 60 98 2

15 38 57 95 3

14 57 35 92 4

6 62 25 87 5

7 29 57 86 6

10 41 42 83 7

9 35 47 82 8

1 49 31 80 9

12 31 48 79 10

11 54 25 79 11

13 17 56 73 12

2 38 25 63 13

8 20 25 45 14

3 30 11 41 15



However, I don't believe my own projections. Note these don't include the recent injuries and quite frankly, I just don't believe my offense will lose to a guy (#5) whose top guy is Orlando Cabrera (according to the March 16 Mastersball data)



I think Sosa will have a monster and Berkman will surprise. My gap is a little on the power side, but I expect to find a good hitter and switch David Roberts in and out as necessary....



Who really knows? Maybe Sammy will hit 50 or 60 or maybe 23, impossible to say



Chris aka Spyhunter Whattya wanna bet that team #5 used a masterball cheatsheet ?

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

Now that is funny - I love it. So, I have some some number crunching using Master Ball's projections and I don't like the results.





Chris aka Spyhunter Spy - you've got the rosters ? Post 'em, the waiting is killing me.

Here are our projections for Las Vegas league 6...



Rank--Team# -- Hitting -- Pitching --Total Points



1.-------7--------70---------56.5--------126.5



2.-------2--------44.5-------51-----------95.5



3.-------6--------46.5-------47-----------93.5



4.-------4--------29---------59.5---------88.5



5.-------5--------49---------39-----------88



6.------11--------55---------23.5---------78.5



7.------13--------28.5-------49.5---------78



8.------15--------42.5-------33-----------75.5



9.------8---------12.5-------62.5---------74.5



10.-----12--------39.5-------33-----------72.5



11.-----3---------39---------33-----------72



12.-----1---------46---------24-----------70



13.-----9---------33.5-------33.5---------67



14.-----10--------29---------34.5---------63.5



15.-----14--------35.5-------21-----------56.5



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Please understand that these are based on my own set of criteria... so that is why our team is on top. Hopefully this will turn out to be fairly accurate or at least more accurate then Chris's numbers (SPY)...



Oh, and Chris.... Interesting that the top 5 teams are on the left side of the table!!!

Originally posted by Wire2Wire:

Here are our projections for Las Vegas league 6...



Rank--Team# -- Hitting -- Pitching --Total Points



1.-------7--------70---------56.5--------126.5



2.-------2--------44.5-------51-----------95.5



3.-------6--------46.5-------47-----------93.5



4.-------4--------29---------59.5---------88.5



5.-------5--------49---------39-----------88



6.------11--------55---------23.5---------78.5



7.------13--------28.5-------49.5---------78



8.------15--------42.5-------33-----------75.5



9.------8---------12.5-------62.5---------74.5



10.-----12--------39.5-------33-----------72.5



11.-----3---------39---------33-----------72



12.-----1---------46---------24-----------70



13.-----9---------33.5-------33.5---------67



14.-----10--------29---------34.5---------63.5



15.-----14--------35.5-------21-----------56.5



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Better than most Rob, at least you have me (#13) as being mediocre. I'm still waiting for someone with good projections to come along and rank me #1 (someone besides me)





Please understand that these are based on my own set of criteria... so that is why our team is on top. Hopefully this will turn out to be fairly accurate or at least more accurate then Chris's numbers (SPY)...



Oh, and Chris.... Interesting that the top 5 teams are on the left side of the table!!! Rob, I can guaurantee you that won't happen !! I could see the left side getting 2 in the top 5, but 4 of the bottom 5 as well.



We spoke after the draft ... I think your team looked OK, could you post it so I can take a look ?



[ March 24, 2005, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Hi, we tried to track all of the picks, but no guarantees on quality and accuracy!!!!



How we determined starting rotations etc.. was simple - because I didn't have time to figure it all out, I took the top 9 pitchers and top 14 hitters $ values according to Masterballs (somewhat insane projections), so not, it may not be quite right



As for wire2wire's projections, you have to be kidding me! Seriously!! What kind of projections are you using? lol, do you really think my outfield will let this happen????



Spy

LOL I was looking at wire 2 wire's projections and to give this offense 29 points is a joke. It will get 15 points in SB alone!!!!



Look at this hitting, you think this is a 29 point offense????





Abreu, Bobby 10 PHI OF

Berkman, Lance 10 HOU OF <- Monster coming beware



Freel, Ryan 10 CIN 3BOF <- Speed

Boone, Bret 10 SEA 2B <- eye surgery means 25 hr at 2b and better avg.

Womack, Tony 10 NYY 2B <- Runs galore in Yankee lineup

Sexson, Richie 10 SEA 1B <- Hello! Did you see the spring training #s? He is back big time...



LaRoche, Adam 10 ATL 1B <- Breakout

Guzman, Cristian 10 WAS SS <- Batting second, he will contribute a little



Molna, Bengie 10 ANA C <- yes he sucks

Ausmus, Brad 10 HOU C <- he sucks too, but lineup means more offense

Spy, I have your team as follows:



Sexson ..32HR..98rbi...0sb....263avg

Freel .. 5....47......30.....270

LaRoche ..14....53......0......285

Boone.....22....76......10.....255

Guzman....6.....55......13.....276

Womack....4.....39......19.....282

Abreu.....24....90......28.....290

Suzuki....9.....75......30.....320

Edmonds...39....108.....4......281

Sosa......31....85......0......254

Berkman...22....83......3......291

Molina....9.....39......0......257

Ausmus....2.....18......2......225

Roberts...4.....30......38.....250



runs total for all starters...953

I have Your starting pitchers at:



82wins...75saves...3.85era...1.26whip and 985k's



I know you are expecting a lot out of Sosa, but his numbers will decline this year. And crashing into walls/age will reduce Edmonds #s as well.Berkman coming back off a torn ACL will be very carefull sb's will be down.Sexson is now in a poor hr pk for righties...so don't pay NO attention to those little dingers in Spring

Roberts...well he is 32...watch that groin & hammy this year!