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Each week I will pick the poster with the best response (as judged by Gekko) to my question. After ten weeks is up, I (or Greg) am going to put each weekly winner's name on a piece of paper, throw them into a hat, and pick an overall winner AT RANDOM. The overall winner will win free entry into the Web Content Panel Draft in March where the format is winner-take-all for a $500 NFBC credit.
Week 1
Question = This player has the best chance to be the 2007 NFBC version of fantasy football’s LaDainian Tomlinson. In other words, this player has the best chance at dominating all other fantasy players and carrying the most NFBC teams into “money” finishes.
Winners = EliGrimmett (Matt Holliday) & duggan (Alfonso Soriano)
Week 2
Question = In 2006 this player hit 15 or less homeruns in the major leagues. In 2007 he hit over 30 homeruns.
Winner = EliGrimmett (Kevin Kouzmanoff)
Week 3
Question = This pitcher never had 20 wins in a season until 2007.
Winners = headhunters (Ervin Santana) & poopy tooth (Jason Schmidt)
Week 4
Question = This player led the Major Leagues in RBI's in 2007.
Winners = poopy tooth and KJ Duke (David Ortiz)
Week 5
Question = This pitcher racked up the most saves for any pitcher who wasn't their team's closer on Opening Day 2007.
Winner = King of Queens (Akinori Otsuka)
Week 6 Question…This team won the 2007 World Series.
Message Board Posters…Which team won the 2007 World Series and why?
[ January 23, 2007, 06:01 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]
Week 1
Question = This player has the best chance to be the 2007 NFBC version of fantasy football’s LaDainian Tomlinson. In other words, this player has the best chance at dominating all other fantasy players and carrying the most NFBC teams into “money” finishes.
Winners = EliGrimmett (Matt Holliday) & duggan (Alfonso Soriano)
Week 2
Question = In 2006 this player hit 15 or less homeruns in the major leagues. In 2007 he hit over 30 homeruns.
Winner = EliGrimmett (Kevin Kouzmanoff)
Week 3
Question = This pitcher never had 20 wins in a season until 2007.
Winners = headhunters (Ervin Santana) & poopy tooth (Jason Schmidt)
Week 4
Question = This player led the Major Leagues in RBI's in 2007.
Winners = poopy tooth and KJ Duke (David Ortiz)
Week 5
Question = This pitcher racked up the most saves for any pitcher who wasn't their team's closer on Opening Day 2007.
Winner = King of Queens (Akinori Otsuka)
Week 6 Question…This team won the 2007 World Series.
Message Board Posters…Which team won the 2007 World Series and why?
[ January 23, 2007, 06:01 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]
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Dodgers
They have a nice mix of veterans and young players. They have the strongest pitching in the NL, bar none!
1. Schmidt
2. Lowe
3. Penny
4. Wolf
5. Billingsley
Other starters who will be in bullpen if needed:
Kuo, Tomko and Hendrickson. (Not the greatest bunch, but it speaks to their depth.) They have a bullpen that includes closer Saito and closer in waitiing Broxton. Between the two, they struck out 214 in 154.2 IP. That's a ratio of 12.45/9 IP. LIGHTS OUT!!! Brazabon will also be back.
This is a team that competes while bringing up rookies - injured veterans (Kent and Brazabon)will be back and the rookies have gained experience.
They lack some power, but have a line up the is improved with Pierre in CF and lead the NL in hitting last year and were 4th in runs scored. The speed of Pierre and Furcal at top of order should generate near 100 SBs, what other team will do that?
They have a front end ace in Schmidt, who pushes everyone back a spot, strenghtening an already good rotation.
Who in the NL can compete with them?
Once they get to World Series, look for pitching to take over!
They have a nice mix of veterans and young players. They have the strongest pitching in the NL, bar none!
1. Schmidt
2. Lowe
3. Penny
4. Wolf
5. Billingsley
Other starters who will be in bullpen if needed:
Kuo, Tomko and Hendrickson. (Not the greatest bunch, but it speaks to their depth.) They have a bullpen that includes closer Saito and closer in waitiing Broxton. Between the two, they struck out 214 in 154.2 IP. That's a ratio of 12.45/9 IP. LIGHTS OUT!!! Brazabon will also be back.
This is a team that competes while bringing up rookies - injured veterans (Kent and Brazabon)will be back and the rookies have gained experience.
They lack some power, but have a line up the is improved with Pierre in CF and lead the NL in hitting last year and were 4th in runs scored. The speed of Pierre and Furcal at top of order should generate near 100 SBs, what other team will do that?
They have a front end ace in Schmidt, who pushes everyone back a spot, strenghtening an already good rotation.
Who in the NL can compete with them?
Once they get to World Series, look for pitching to take over!

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they also lack an outfielder that can actually throw a baseball
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Maybe they can use a pitcher there on his days off. Some of them might have as much power as their outfielders too. Sorry Poopy not taking pock shots at you. I just couldn't resist a little attempt at humor.
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It's ok. I can take the shots at my post. Pierre has no arm, but I stand by my post. Dodgers will be in the world series.
I hear a lot of talk about a lousy defense and for some it's well placed, but not as awful as many seem to imply.
Greg, how about this...WHEN the Dodgers win the World Series this year, you add me to your panel next year? Deal? And if they lose, well, I'll stay after the main event and clean up after the drafts.
I hear a lot of talk about a lousy defense and for some it's well placed, but not as awful as many seem to imply.
Greg, how about this...WHEN the Dodgers win the World Series this year, you add me to your panel next year? Deal? And if they lose, well, I'll stay after the main event and clean up after the drafts.

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Who are the New York Yankees?
Damon, Jeter, Abreu, Rodriguez, Giambi, Matsui, Posada, Cano -- best combined 1 thru 8 hitters in baseball
Mientkewicz -- great defense and will keep Giambi where he belongs (DH)
No more Sheffield and Unit -- better clubhouse environment
Mussina, Wang, Pettitte, Igawa, Pavano/Hughes/??? -- should be productive
Mo -- still one of the best
Every team has question marks, but the Yankees have the fewest.
Damon, Jeter, Abreu, Rodriguez, Giambi, Matsui, Posada, Cano -- best combined 1 thru 8 hitters in baseball
Mientkewicz -- great defense and will keep Giambi where he belongs (DH)
No more Sheffield and Unit -- better clubhouse environment
Mussina, Wang, Pettitte, Igawa, Pavano/Hughes/??? -- should be productive
Mo -- still one of the best
Every team has question marks, but the Yankees have the fewest.
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Originally posted by poopy tooth:
They have a bullpen that includes closer Saito and closer in waitiing Broxton. Between the two, they struck out 214 in 154.2 IP. That's a ratio of 12.45/9 IP. LIGHTS OUT!!! Shawne Merriman plays for the Dodgers?
They have a bullpen that includes closer Saito and closer in waitiing Broxton. Between the two, they struck out 214 in 154.2 IP. That's a ratio of 12.45/9 IP. LIGHTS OUT!!! Shawne Merriman plays for the Dodgers?
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This might help answer the question as well:
ODDS TO WIN 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP
NEW YORK YANKEES +350
DETROIT TIGERS +500
CHICAGO WHITE SOX +800
NEW YORK METS +800
CHICAGO CUBS +900
BOSTON RED SOX +1000
LOS ANGELES ANGELS +1000
ST LOUIS CARDINALS +1000
LOS ANGELES DODGERS +1400
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES +1500
TORONTO BLUE JAYS +1500
MINNESOTA TWINS +2000
OAKLAND ATHLETICS +2000
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS +2000
CLEVELAND INDIANS +3000
SAN DIEGO PADRES +3000
ATLANTA BRAVES +4000
HOUSTON ASTROS +4000
CINCINNATI REDS +5000
MILWAUKEE BREWERS +5000
TEXAS RANGERS +5000
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS +6000
FLORIDA MARLINS +6000
BALTIMORE ORIOLES +10000
COLORADO ROCKIES +10000
SEATTLE MARINERS +10000
PITTSBURGH PIRATES +20000
WASHINGTON NATIONALS +20000
KANSAS CITY ROYALS +50000
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS +50000
ODDS TO WIN 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP
NEW YORK YANKEES +350
DETROIT TIGERS +500
CHICAGO WHITE SOX +800
NEW YORK METS +800
CHICAGO CUBS +900
BOSTON RED SOX +1000
LOS ANGELES ANGELS +1000
ST LOUIS CARDINALS +1000
LOS ANGELES DODGERS +1400
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES +1500
TORONTO BLUE JAYS +1500
MINNESOTA TWINS +2000
OAKLAND ATHLETICS +2000
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS +2000
CLEVELAND INDIANS +3000
SAN DIEGO PADRES +3000
ATLANTA BRAVES +4000
HOUSTON ASTROS +4000
CINCINNATI REDS +5000
MILWAUKEE BREWERS +5000
TEXAS RANGERS +5000
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS +6000
FLORIDA MARLINS +6000
BALTIMORE ORIOLES +10000
COLORADO ROCKIES +10000
SEATTLE MARINERS +10000
PITTSBURGH PIRATES +20000
WASHINGTON NATIONALS +20000
KANSAS CITY ROYALS +50000
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS +50000
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Meet da mets.
VERY good pen; Wagner ~ burgos/heilman/sanchez (should be healthy).
Pedro should be fresh and ready for stretch run and playoffs by august. Pelfrey will start in AAA and he too will be fresh come playoff time. Maine showed alot down the stretch and there is nice depth with Glavine,duque and maybe O.Perez. Lets not forget a decent swingman in Jorge Sosa
Offense is good enough. Good #4 OF E.Chavez to back up all 3 OF spots. Alou if healthy for playoffs will be huge. Bartman will NOT be in Shea this fall !
Trade bait Lastings Milledge can be used to fill any gap that may occur.
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VERY good pen; Wagner ~ burgos/heilman/sanchez (should be healthy).
Pedro should be fresh and ready for stretch run and playoffs by august. Pelfrey will start in AAA and he too will be fresh come playoff time. Maine showed alot down the stretch and there is nice depth with Glavine,duque and maybe O.Perez. Lets not forget a decent swingman in Jorge Sosa
Offense is good enough. Good #4 OF E.Chavez to back up all 3 OF spots. Alou if healthy for playoffs will be huge. Bartman will NOT be in Shea this fall !
Trade bait Lastings Milledge can be used to fill any gap that may occur.
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Originally posted by King of Queens:
This might help answer the question as well:
ODDS TO WIN 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP
NEW YORK YANKEES +350
DETROIT TIGERS +500
CHICAGO WHITE SOX +800
NEW YORK METS +800
CHICAGO CUBS +900
BOSTON RED SOX +1000
LOS ANGELES ANGELS +1000
ST LOUIS CARDINALS +1000
LOS ANGELES DODGERS +1400
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES +1500
TORONTO BLUE JAYS +1500
MINNESOTA TWINS +2000
OAKLAND ATHLETICS +2000
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS +2000
CLEVELAND INDIANS +3000
SAN DIEGO PADRES +3000
ATLANTA BRAVES +4000
HOUSTON ASTROS +4000
CINCINNATI REDS +5000
MILWAUKEE BREWERS +5000
TEXAS RANGERS +5000
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS +6000
FLORIDA MARLINS +6000
BALTIMORE ORIOLES +10000
COLORADO ROCKIES +10000
SEATTLE MARINERS +10000
PITTSBURGH PIRATES +20000
WASHINGTON NATIONALS +20000
KANSAS CITY ROYALS +50000
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS +50000 I think while I'm in Vegas maybe I'll go down and put a buck on the D-Rays.
This might help answer the question as well:
ODDS TO WIN 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP
NEW YORK YANKEES +350
DETROIT TIGERS +500
CHICAGO WHITE SOX +800
NEW YORK METS +800
CHICAGO CUBS +900
BOSTON RED SOX +1000
LOS ANGELES ANGELS +1000
ST LOUIS CARDINALS +1000
LOS ANGELES DODGERS +1400
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES +1500
TORONTO BLUE JAYS +1500
MINNESOTA TWINS +2000
OAKLAND ATHLETICS +2000
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS +2000
CLEVELAND INDIANS +3000
SAN DIEGO PADRES +3000
ATLANTA BRAVES +4000
HOUSTON ASTROS +4000
CINCINNATI REDS +5000
MILWAUKEE BREWERS +5000
TEXAS RANGERS +5000
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS +6000
FLORIDA MARLINS +6000
BALTIMORE ORIOLES +10000
COLORADO ROCKIES +10000
SEATTLE MARINERS +10000
PITTSBURGH PIRATES +20000
WASHINGTON NATIONALS +20000
KANSAS CITY ROYALS +50000
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS +50000 I think while I'm in Vegas maybe I'll go down and put a buck on the D-Rays.
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Who is the Boston Red Sox.
Stacked lineup, Great Rotation, and another yankee collapse will lead the Red Sox to another title.
Stacked lineup, Great Rotation, and another yankee collapse will lead the Red Sox to another title.
2004 NYY "The Greatest Choke in the History of Sports"
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HOLY COW!!!! Who are the Cubbies?
It's about time that Baker is sent packing and the addition of Sweet Lou will give this team the skipper to lead them to the promise land.
Mark Prior is key to this teams success. If he comes out and stays healthy, he and Zambrano will be one of the most formible 1-2 punches. Hill is a star in the making and veterens Marquis and Lilly will be inning eaters. Kerry Wood will close for the Cubbies and the smaller workload should help transform him into a top notch closer.
The Cubbies biggest addition of Soriano will give them that catalyst that they've been missing for so many years. Lee will come back into old form and Ramirez is quietly becoming an MVP candidate.
With the Cardinals aging, the Cubbies should be able to win the Central this year and cruise to a World Series title.
Thanks,
The Mudster
It's about time that Baker is sent packing and the addition of Sweet Lou will give this team the skipper to lead them to the promise land.
Mark Prior is key to this teams success. If he comes out and stays healthy, he and Zambrano will be one of the most formible 1-2 punches. Hill is a star in the making and veterens Marquis and Lilly will be inning eaters. Kerry Wood will close for the Cubbies and the smaller workload should help transform him into a top notch closer.
The Cubbies biggest addition of Soriano will give them that catalyst that they've been missing for so many years. Lee will come back into old form and Ramirez is quietly becoming an MVP candidate.
With the Cardinals aging, the Cubbies should be able to win the Central this year and cruise to a World Series title.
Thanks,
The Mudster
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Originally posted by Mudster:
HOLY COW!!!! Who are the Cubbies?
It's about time that Baker is sent packing and the addition of Sweet Lou will give this team the skipper to lead them to the promise land.
Mark Prior is key to this teams success. If he comes out and stays healthy, he and Zambrano will be one of the most formible 1-2 punches. Hill is a star in the making and veterens Marquis and Lilly will be inning eaters. Kerry Wood will close for the Cubbies and the smaller workload should help transform him into a top notch closer.
The Cubbies biggest addition of Soriano will give them that catalyst that they've been missing for so many years. Lee will come back into old form and Ramirez is quietly becoming an MVP candidate.
With the Cardinals aging, the Cubbies should be able to win the Central this year and cruise to a World Series title.
Thanks,
The Mudster The other names change, but every hopeful Cubbie review for the last five years has started with "If Prior and Wood can stay healthy".
I would take Philly. An established rotation with a possible two-headed monster in Myers and Hamels, a faster outfield with Victorino and Rowand, and an infield that hits over .300 with more than 120 hr's. Not to mention the top sleeper in baseball.
HOLY COW!!!! Who are the Cubbies?
It's about time that Baker is sent packing and the addition of Sweet Lou will give this team the skipper to lead them to the promise land.
Mark Prior is key to this teams success. If he comes out and stays healthy, he and Zambrano will be one of the most formible 1-2 punches. Hill is a star in the making and veterens Marquis and Lilly will be inning eaters. Kerry Wood will close for the Cubbies and the smaller workload should help transform him into a top notch closer.
The Cubbies biggest addition of Soriano will give them that catalyst that they've been missing for so many years. Lee will come back into old form and Ramirez is quietly becoming an MVP candidate.
With the Cardinals aging, the Cubbies should be able to win the Central this year and cruise to a World Series title.
Thanks,
The Mudster The other names change, but every hopeful Cubbie review for the last five years has started with "If Prior and Wood can stay healthy".
I would take Philly. An established rotation with a possible two-headed monster in Myers and Hamels, a faster outfield with Victorino and Rowand, and an infield that hits over .300 with more than 120 hr's. Not to mention the top sleeper in baseball.
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Who are the Detroit Tigers?
Took a sip last year This year will guzzle. Sheffied brings stability as clean up hitter provided he stays healthy He gets along great with Leyland and will provide leadership and help to young hitters like Granderson
Pitching is strongest in AL with Maroth coming back Rogers is probably their worst pitcher Bonderman 20 wins Verlander No fluke and J Zumaya becomes lights out closer with Rodney as set up man and Joes will become this years D Turnbow Plus the ball park accentuates their strengths
No Brainer on this 1 Mark
Marty
Took a sip last year This year will guzzle. Sheffied brings stability as clean up hitter provided he stays healthy He gets along great with Leyland and will provide leadership and help to young hitters like Granderson
Pitching is strongest in AL with Maroth coming back Rogers is probably their worst pitcher Bonderman 20 wins Verlander No fluke and J Zumaya becomes lights out closer with Rodney as set up man and Joes will become this years D Turnbow Plus the ball park accentuates their strengths
No Brainer on this 1 Mark
Marty
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The answer is the New York Yankees.
I realize a previous poster already offered them as the choice, but I am assuming that the WHY portion of the answer is the more important element.
--It's been a long time since a top tier team's lineup was so powerful that they were able to go with a defensive-minded first baseman who hit 9th in the order.
--Anyone who saw Randy Johnson's first press conference after he went back to Arizona realized that he simply made a mistake by coming to New York. While he wasn't terrible with the Yankees, his departure was absolute addition by subtraction.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part I: The return of the 34 year old was perhaps the biggest offseason move in baseball before the 2007 campaign. His calm under pressure was admirable during his initial run in the Bronx, but he came back as an immeasurably more mature human being and restored some of what had been lost since the team's last Championship in 2000.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part II: Although it wasn't made official until late May, it seemed inevitable that Pettitte's return to New York would lead Roger Clemens to follow. When The Rocket got his arm back into Major League shape after spending the month of June in the minors, he provided a dominant second half and was huge during their playoff run to the Title.
--Carl Pavano entered 2007 at the crossroads of his baseball career. He had pretty much used up all of his chances, and needed to redeem himself with a fast start just to get his teammates and the organization to believe he could be a positive contributor in pinstripes. His strong May and June earned him an All-Star selection and helped save his career from slipping away.
--In addition to Pettitte, Pavano, and a half-season of Clemens, the Yanks fielded the best rotation in the bigs with Wang, Mussina and Japanese import Kei Igawa.
--For the first time in years, the front office provided manager Joe Torre with more than a one-man bullpen. The acquisition of Luis Vizcaino turned out to be bigger than most had anticipated as he emerged as one of the better late-inning relievers in the American League. Kyle Farnsworth returned to the form that once had him pegged as a future star. Scott Proctor was another pleasant surprise as he improved on his breakout season from 2006, and left-handed specialist Mike Myers turned in his first sub-three ERA season since 2000 when he was with the Rockies.
--Mariano Rivera entered 2007 having already been a dominant closer for a longer period of time than any player in baseball history, and his performance during the season and playoffs did nothing but further emphasize the fact that he is a true first-ballot Hall of Famer.
--America had not been exposed to the true fire within Hideki Matsui until the 2007 season. After suffering an injury which caused the 33-year old to miss games for the first time since his childhood, "Godzilla" put on a show in 2007 matching his uniform number with 55 Home Runs and winning American League MVP honors.
--2007 was the first time Joe Torre started a season as Yankee manager having led the club for more consecutive non-Championship years than campaigns which ended with the big trophy ceremony. After winning it all in 4 of his first 5 tries under George Steinbrenner, Torre's Championship drought had reached 6 long years. By bringing the Bombers back to the pinnacle that he had achieved when he first arrived, he completed the cycle and was able to end his career on terms he was comfortable with. Torre's recent retirement was as much of a celebration as it was a goodbye.
I realize a previous poster already offered them as the choice, but I am assuming that the WHY portion of the answer is the more important element.
--It's been a long time since a top tier team's lineup was so powerful that they were able to go with a defensive-minded first baseman who hit 9th in the order.
--Anyone who saw Randy Johnson's first press conference after he went back to Arizona realized that he simply made a mistake by coming to New York. While he wasn't terrible with the Yankees, his departure was absolute addition by subtraction.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part I: The return of the 34 year old was perhaps the biggest offseason move in baseball before the 2007 campaign. His calm under pressure was admirable during his initial run in the Bronx, but he came back as an immeasurably more mature human being and restored some of what had been lost since the team's last Championship in 2000.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part II: Although it wasn't made official until late May, it seemed inevitable that Pettitte's return to New York would lead Roger Clemens to follow. When The Rocket got his arm back into Major League shape after spending the month of June in the minors, he provided a dominant second half and was huge during their playoff run to the Title.
--Carl Pavano entered 2007 at the crossroads of his baseball career. He had pretty much used up all of his chances, and needed to redeem himself with a fast start just to get his teammates and the organization to believe he could be a positive contributor in pinstripes. His strong May and June earned him an All-Star selection and helped save his career from slipping away.
--In addition to Pettitte, Pavano, and a half-season of Clemens, the Yanks fielded the best rotation in the bigs with Wang, Mussina and Japanese import Kei Igawa.
--For the first time in years, the front office provided manager Joe Torre with more than a one-man bullpen. The acquisition of Luis Vizcaino turned out to be bigger than most had anticipated as he emerged as one of the better late-inning relievers in the American League. Kyle Farnsworth returned to the form that once had him pegged as a future star. Scott Proctor was another pleasant surprise as he improved on his breakout season from 2006, and left-handed specialist Mike Myers turned in his first sub-three ERA season since 2000 when he was with the Rockies.
--Mariano Rivera entered 2007 having already been a dominant closer for a longer period of time than any player in baseball history, and his performance during the season and playoffs did nothing but further emphasize the fact that he is a true first-ballot Hall of Famer.
--America had not been exposed to the true fire within Hideki Matsui until the 2007 season. After suffering an injury which caused the 33-year old to miss games for the first time since his childhood, "Godzilla" put on a show in 2007 matching his uniform number with 55 Home Runs and winning American League MVP honors.
--2007 was the first time Joe Torre started a season as Yankee manager having led the club for more consecutive non-Championship years than campaigns which ended with the big trophy ceremony. After winning it all in 4 of his first 5 tries under George Steinbrenner, Torre's Championship drought had reached 6 long years. By bringing the Bombers back to the pinnacle that he had achieved when he first arrived, he completed the cycle and was able to end his career on terms he was comfortable with. Torre's recent retirement was as much of a celebration as it was a goodbye.
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Thanks for fleshing out "why" points, RODGER. And may I add, your elquence is much appreciated.
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My only wish is that you are flying to Vegas to be in my fantasy league. I could see you grabbing a Yankee at every turn.
The Yankees won't win the World Series for a long time. They have slipped in their mid-eighties form. The staff is full risk and players on the decline.
Andy Pettitte isn't Johan please don't confused the two. He is a nice pitcher who has pitched well in the big games. The problem is he isn't good enough to carry a team like a Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez in their prime.
As for the rest of the fun bunch, Wang is good, but he needs a pitch that major league batters can swing and miss at. All those ground balls could turn into hits in a bad year. Mussina in coming off his best year in years. I can't see a repeat. He always seems to have slump during the year. Igawa can make a batter miss, but your neck might hurt at the end of the year from all those homers. They can all take him deep over here. Pavano...can we let him at least get on the mound? He is hurt all the time. He had one great year and now he can retire on George. Rivera can't do it alone. If you need to lean on him too much again, I could see him breaking down.
If you struggle early, Clemens will jump ship in a Boston minute. I'd wait until he is the starting gate before you start riding him to the promise land.
If you put Clemens, Pettitte and Rivera on the Devil Rays, they would have a better chance to win it all......
[ January 26, 2007, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]
The Yankees won't win the World Series for a long time. They have slipped in their mid-eighties form. The staff is full risk and players on the decline.
Andy Pettitte isn't Johan please don't confused the two. He is a nice pitcher who has pitched well in the big games. The problem is he isn't good enough to carry a team like a Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez in their prime.
As for the rest of the fun bunch, Wang is good, but he needs a pitch that major league batters can swing and miss at. All those ground balls could turn into hits in a bad year. Mussina in coming off his best year in years. I can't see a repeat. He always seems to have slump during the year. Igawa can make a batter miss, but your neck might hurt at the end of the year from all those homers. They can all take him deep over here. Pavano...can we let him at least get on the mound? He is hurt all the time. He had one great year and now he can retire on George. Rivera can't do it alone. If you need to lean on him too much again, I could see him breaking down.
If you struggle early, Clemens will jump ship in a Boston minute. I'd wait until he is the starting gate before you start riding him to the promise land.
If you put Clemens, Pettitte and Rivera on the Devil Rays, they would have a better chance to win it all......
[ January 26, 2007, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]
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Originally posted by King of Queens:
Thanks for fleshing out "why" points, RODGER. And may I add, your elquence is much appreciated. Excuse the typos -- this was posted on the Grand Central Parkway during rush hour traffic.
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Thanks for fleshing out "why" points, RODGER. And may I add, your elquence is much appreciated. Excuse the typos -- this was posted on the Grand Central Parkway during rush hour traffic.
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Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
They have slipped in their mid-eighties form. The staff is full risk and players on the decline.Interesting analogy, Shawn. Let's compare the Yankees of 1986 (the beginning of their decline) to the current squad:
1985: 97-64
1986: 90-72
1987: 89-73
1988: 85-76
1989: 74-87
1990: 67-95
1986 Yankees
C Butch Wynegar
1B Don Mattingly
2B Willie Randolph
3B Mike Pagliarulo
SS Bob Meacham
OF Rickey Henderson
OF Dave Winfield
OF Dan Pasqua
DH Mike Easler
SP Dennis Rasmussen
SP Ron Guidry
SP Joe Niekro
SP Doug Drabek
SP Bob Tewksbury
CL Dave Righetti
RP Brian Fisher
RP Bob Shirley
2007 Yankees
C Jorge Posada
1B Doug Mientkiewicz
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter
OF Bobby Abreu
OF Johnny Damon
OF Hideki Matsui
DH Jason Giambi
SP Mike Mussina
SP Chien-Ming Wang
SP Andy Pettitte
SP Kei Igawa
SP Carl Pavano
CL Mariano Rivera
RP Kyle Farnsworth
RP Luis Vizcaino
As I see it, it's not even close. 2007 Yankees have far more talent.
They have slipped in their mid-eighties form. The staff is full risk and players on the decline.Interesting analogy, Shawn. Let's compare the Yankees of 1986 (the beginning of their decline) to the current squad:
1985: 97-64
1986: 90-72
1987: 89-73
1988: 85-76
1989: 74-87
1990: 67-95
1986 Yankees
C Butch Wynegar
1B Don Mattingly
2B Willie Randolph
3B Mike Pagliarulo
SS Bob Meacham
OF Rickey Henderson
OF Dave Winfield
OF Dan Pasqua
DH Mike Easler
SP Dennis Rasmussen
SP Ron Guidry
SP Joe Niekro
SP Doug Drabek
SP Bob Tewksbury
CL Dave Righetti
RP Brian Fisher
RP Bob Shirley
2007 Yankees
C Jorge Posada
1B Doug Mientkiewicz
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter
OF Bobby Abreu
OF Johnny Damon
OF Hideki Matsui
DH Jason Giambi
SP Mike Mussina
SP Chien-Ming Wang
SP Andy Pettitte
SP Kei Igawa
SP Carl Pavano
CL Mariano Rivera
RP Kyle Farnsworth
RP Luis Vizcaino
As I see it, it's not even close. 2007 Yankees have far more talent.
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Week 6 - Gekko Jeopardy
Originally posted by King of Queens:
quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
They have slipped in their mid-eighties form. The staff is full risk and players on the decline.Interesting analogy, Shawn. Let's compare the Yankees of 1986 (the beginning of their decline) to the current squad:
1985: 97-64
1986: 90-72
1987: 89-73
1988: 85-76
1989: 74-87
1990: 67-95
1986 Yankees
C Butch Wynegar
1B Don Mattingly
2B Willie Randolph
3B Mike Pagliarulo
SS Bob Meacham
OF Rickey Henderson
OF Dave Winfield
OF Dan Pasqua
DH Mike Easler
SP Dennis Rasmussen
SP Ron Guidry
SP Joe Niekro
SP Doug Drabek
SP Bob Tewksbury
CL Dave Righetti
RP Brian Fisher
RP Bob Shirley
2007 Yankees
C Jorge Posada
1B Doug Mientkiewicz
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter
OF Bobby Abreu
OF Johnny Damon
OF Hideki Matsui
DH Jason Giambi
SP Mike Mussina
SP Chien-Ming Wang
SP Andy Pettitte
SP Kei Igawa
SP Carl Pavano
CL Mariano Rivera
RP Kyle Farnsworth
RP Luis Vizcaino
As I see it, it's not even close. 2007 Yankees have far more talent. [/QUOTE]Every team has more talent. Compare Tampa and Toronto back then....The Yankees have more names...that doesn't translate into championships in the real baseball world or fantasy.
quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:
They have slipped in their mid-eighties form. The staff is full risk and players on the decline.Interesting analogy, Shawn. Let's compare the Yankees of 1986 (the beginning of their decline) to the current squad:
1985: 97-64
1986: 90-72
1987: 89-73
1988: 85-76
1989: 74-87
1990: 67-95
1986 Yankees
C Butch Wynegar
1B Don Mattingly
2B Willie Randolph
3B Mike Pagliarulo
SS Bob Meacham
OF Rickey Henderson
OF Dave Winfield
OF Dan Pasqua
DH Mike Easler
SP Dennis Rasmussen
SP Ron Guidry
SP Joe Niekro
SP Doug Drabek
SP Bob Tewksbury
CL Dave Righetti
RP Brian Fisher
RP Bob Shirley
2007 Yankees
C Jorge Posada
1B Doug Mientkiewicz
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter
OF Bobby Abreu
OF Johnny Damon
OF Hideki Matsui
DH Jason Giambi
SP Mike Mussina
SP Chien-Ming Wang
SP Andy Pettitte
SP Kei Igawa
SP Carl Pavano
CL Mariano Rivera
RP Kyle Farnsworth
RP Luis Vizcaino
As I see it, it's not even close. 2007 Yankees have far more talent. [/QUOTE]Every team has more talent. Compare Tampa and Toronto back then....The Yankees have more names...that doesn't translate into championships in the real baseball world or fantasy.
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The answer is the New York Yankees.
I realize a previous poster already offered them as the choice, but I am assuming that the WHY portion of the answer is the more important element.
--It's been a long time since a top tier team's lineup was so powerful that they were able to go with a defensive-minded first baseman who hit 9th in the order.
--Anyone who saw Randy Johnson's first press conference after he went back to Arizona realized that he simply made a mistake by coming to New York. While he wasn't terrible with the Yankees, his departure was absolute addition by subtraction.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part I: The return of the 34 year old was perhaps the biggest offseason move in baseball before the 2007 campaign. His calm under pressure was admirable during his initial run in the Bronx, but he came back as an immeasurably more mature human being and restored some of what had been lost since the team's last Championship in 2000.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part II: Although it wasn't made official until late May, it seemed inevitable that Pettitte's return to New York would lead Roger Clemens to follow. When The Rocket got his arm back into Major League shape after spending the month of June in the minors, he provided a dominant second half and was huge during their playoff run to the Title.
--Carl Pavano entered 2007 at the crossroads of his baseball career. He had pretty much used up all of his chances, and needed to redeem himself with a fast start just to get his teammates and the organization to believe he could be a positive contributor in pinstripes. His strong May and June earned him an All-Star selection and helped save his career from slipping away.
--In addition to Pettitte, Pavano, and a half-season of Clemens, the Yanks fielded the best rotation in the bigs with Wang, Mussina and Japanese import Kei Igawa.
--For the first time in years, the front office provided manager Joe Torre with more than a one-man bullpen. The acquisition of Luis Vizcaino turned out to be bigger than most had anticipated as he emerged as one of the better late-inning relievers in the American League. Kyle Farnsworth returned to the form that once had him pegged as a future star. Scott Proctor was another pleasant surprise as he improved on his breakout season from 2006, and left-handed specialist Mike Myers turned in his first sub-three ERA season since 2000 when he was with the Rockies.
--Mariano Rivera entered 2007 having already been a dominant closer for a longer period of time than any player in baseball history, and his performance during the season and playoffs did nothing but further emphasize the fact that he is a true first-ballot Hall of Famer.
--America had not been exposed to the true fire within Hideki Matsui until the 2007 season. After suffering an injury which caused the 33-year old to miss games for the first time since his childhood, "Godzilla" put on a show in 2007 matching his uniform number with 55 Home Runs and winning American League MVP honors.
--2007 was the first time Joe Torre started a season as Yankee manager having led the club for more consecutive non-Championship years than campaigns which ended with the big trophy ceremony. After winning it all in 4 of his first 5 tries under George Steinbrenner, Torre's Championship drought had reached 6 long years. By bringing the Bombers back to the pinnacle that he had achieved when he first arrived, he completed the cycle and was able to end his career on terms he was comfortable with. Torre's recent retirement was as much of a celebration as it was a goodbye.
Luckily, Greg doesn't drug test all owners!
Kidding Rodgers, but seriously, Pettitte doesn't seem 100% to me. I will give you this though, it is the Yankees that I see LA beating in the World Series!
I realize a previous poster already offered them as the choice, but I am assuming that the WHY portion of the answer is the more important element.
--It's been a long time since a top tier team's lineup was so powerful that they were able to go with a defensive-minded first baseman who hit 9th in the order.
--Anyone who saw Randy Johnson's first press conference after he went back to Arizona realized that he simply made a mistake by coming to New York. While he wasn't terrible with the Yankees, his departure was absolute addition by subtraction.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part I: The return of the 34 year old was perhaps the biggest offseason move in baseball before the 2007 campaign. His calm under pressure was admirable during his initial run in the Bronx, but he came back as an immeasurably more mature human being and restored some of what had been lost since the team's last Championship in 2000.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part II: Although it wasn't made official until late May, it seemed inevitable that Pettitte's return to New York would lead Roger Clemens to follow. When The Rocket got his arm back into Major League shape after spending the month of June in the minors, he provided a dominant second half and was huge during their playoff run to the Title.
--Carl Pavano entered 2007 at the crossroads of his baseball career. He had pretty much used up all of his chances, and needed to redeem himself with a fast start just to get his teammates and the organization to believe he could be a positive contributor in pinstripes. His strong May and June earned him an All-Star selection and helped save his career from slipping away.
--In addition to Pettitte, Pavano, and a half-season of Clemens, the Yanks fielded the best rotation in the bigs with Wang, Mussina and Japanese import Kei Igawa.
--For the first time in years, the front office provided manager Joe Torre with more than a one-man bullpen. The acquisition of Luis Vizcaino turned out to be bigger than most had anticipated as he emerged as one of the better late-inning relievers in the American League. Kyle Farnsworth returned to the form that once had him pegged as a future star. Scott Proctor was another pleasant surprise as he improved on his breakout season from 2006, and left-handed specialist Mike Myers turned in his first sub-three ERA season since 2000 when he was with the Rockies.
--Mariano Rivera entered 2007 having already been a dominant closer for a longer period of time than any player in baseball history, and his performance during the season and playoffs did nothing but further emphasize the fact that he is a true first-ballot Hall of Famer.
--America had not been exposed to the true fire within Hideki Matsui until the 2007 season. After suffering an injury which caused the 33-year old to miss games for the first time since his childhood, "Godzilla" put on a show in 2007 matching his uniform number with 55 Home Runs and winning American League MVP honors.
--2007 was the first time Joe Torre started a season as Yankee manager having led the club for more consecutive non-Championship years than campaigns which ended with the big trophy ceremony. After winning it all in 4 of his first 5 tries under George Steinbrenner, Torre's Championship drought had reached 6 long years. By bringing the Bombers back to the pinnacle that he had achieved when he first arrived, he completed the cycle and was able to end his career on terms he was comfortable with. Torre's recent retirement was as much of a celebration as it was a goodbye.
Luckily, Greg doesn't drug test all owners!
Kidding Rodgers, but seriously, Pettitte doesn't seem 100% to me. I will give you this though, it is the Yankees that I see LA beating in the World Series!

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Originally posted by RODGER:
The answer is the New York Yankees.
I realize a previous poster already offered them as the choice, but I am assuming that the WHY portion of the answer is the more important element.
--It's been a long time since a top tier team's lineup was so powerful that they were able to go with a defensive-minded first baseman who hit 9th in the order.
--Anyone who saw Randy Johnson's first press conference after he went back to Arizona realized that he simply made a mistake by coming to New York. While he wasn't terrible with the Yankees, his departure was absolute addition by subtraction.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part I: The return of the 34 year old was perhaps the biggest offseason move in baseball before the 2007 campaign. His calm under pressure was admirable during his initial run in the Bronx, but he came back as an immeasurably more mature human being and restored some of what had been lost since the team's last Championship in 2000.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part II: Although it wasn't made official until late May, it seemed inevitable that Pettitte's return to New York would lead Roger Clemens to follow. When The Rocket got his arm back into Major League shape after spending the month of June in the minors, he provided a dominant second half and was huge during their playoff run to the Title.
--Carl Pavano entered 2007 at the crossroads of his baseball career. He had pretty much used up all of his chances, and needed to redeem himself with a fast start just to get his teammates and the organization to believe he could be a positive contributor in pinstripes. His strong May and June earned him an All-Star selection and helped save his career from slipping away.
--In addition to Pettitte, Pavano, and a half-season of Clemens, the Yanks fielded the best rotation in the bigs with Wang, Mussina and Japanese import Kei Igawa.
--For the first time in years, the front office provided manager Joe Torre with more than a one-man bullpen. The acquisition of Luis Vizcaino turned out to be bigger than most had anticipated as he emerged as one of the better late-inning relievers in the American League. Kyle Farnsworth returned to the form that once had him pegged as a future star. Scott Proctor was another pleasant surprise as he improved on his breakout season from 2006, and left-handed specialist Mike Myers turned in his first sub-three ERA season since 2000 when he was with the Rockies.
--Mariano Rivera entered 2007 having already been a dominant closer for a longer period of time than any player in baseball history, and his performance during the season and playoffs did nothing but further emphasize the fact that he is a true first-ballot Hall of Famer.
--America had not been exposed to the true fire within Hideki Matsui until the 2007 season. After suffering an injury which caused the 33-year old to miss games for the first time since his childhood, "Godzilla" put on a show in 2007 matching his uniform number with 55 Home Runs and winning American League MVP honors.
--2007 was the first time Joe Torre started a season as Yankee manager having led the club for more consecutive non-Championship years than campaigns which ended with the big trophy ceremony. After winning it all in 4 of his first 5 tries under George Steinbrenner, Torre's Championship drought had reached 6 long years. By bringing the Bombers back to the pinnacle that he had achieved when he first arrived, he completed the cycle and was able to end his career on terms he was comfortable with. Torre's recent retirement was as much of a celebration as it was a goodbye. I think you forgot the Arod annual collapse in October also
The answer is the New York Yankees.
I realize a previous poster already offered them as the choice, but I am assuming that the WHY portion of the answer is the more important element.
--It's been a long time since a top tier team's lineup was so powerful that they were able to go with a defensive-minded first baseman who hit 9th in the order.
--Anyone who saw Randy Johnson's first press conference after he went back to Arizona realized that he simply made a mistake by coming to New York. While he wasn't terrible with the Yankees, his departure was absolute addition by subtraction.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part I: The return of the 34 year old was perhaps the biggest offseason move in baseball before the 2007 campaign. His calm under pressure was admirable during his initial run in the Bronx, but he came back as an immeasurably more mature human being and restored some of what had been lost since the team's last Championship in 2000.
--Andrew Eugene Pettitte Part II: Although it wasn't made official until late May, it seemed inevitable that Pettitte's return to New York would lead Roger Clemens to follow. When The Rocket got his arm back into Major League shape after spending the month of June in the minors, he provided a dominant second half and was huge during their playoff run to the Title.
--Carl Pavano entered 2007 at the crossroads of his baseball career. He had pretty much used up all of his chances, and needed to redeem himself with a fast start just to get his teammates and the organization to believe he could be a positive contributor in pinstripes. His strong May and June earned him an All-Star selection and helped save his career from slipping away.
--In addition to Pettitte, Pavano, and a half-season of Clemens, the Yanks fielded the best rotation in the bigs with Wang, Mussina and Japanese import Kei Igawa.
--For the first time in years, the front office provided manager Joe Torre with more than a one-man bullpen. The acquisition of Luis Vizcaino turned out to be bigger than most had anticipated as he emerged as one of the better late-inning relievers in the American League. Kyle Farnsworth returned to the form that once had him pegged as a future star. Scott Proctor was another pleasant surprise as he improved on his breakout season from 2006, and left-handed specialist Mike Myers turned in his first sub-three ERA season since 2000 when he was with the Rockies.
--Mariano Rivera entered 2007 having already been a dominant closer for a longer period of time than any player in baseball history, and his performance during the season and playoffs did nothing but further emphasize the fact that he is a true first-ballot Hall of Famer.
--America had not been exposed to the true fire within Hideki Matsui until the 2007 season. After suffering an injury which caused the 33-year old to miss games for the first time since his childhood, "Godzilla" put on a show in 2007 matching his uniform number with 55 Home Runs and winning American League MVP honors.
--2007 was the first time Joe Torre started a season as Yankee manager having led the club for more consecutive non-Championship years than campaigns which ended with the big trophy ceremony. After winning it all in 4 of his first 5 tries under George Steinbrenner, Torre's Championship drought had reached 6 long years. By bringing the Bombers back to the pinnacle that he had achieved when he first arrived, he completed the cycle and was able to end his career on terms he was comfortable with. Torre's recent retirement was as much of a celebration as it was a goodbye. I think you forgot the Arod annual collapse in October also
2004 NYY "The Greatest Choke in the History of Sports"
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Originally posted by Red Sox Nation:
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2004 NYY "The Greatest Choke in the History of Sports"This statement would seem to be a bit of a stretch. That was certainly a rough one for the Yankees, but several instances of equal or superior choking in sports history come to mind quite quickly (and with some simple research, I'm sure this list could be made much longer).
1993 - In an NFL playoff game, the Houston Oilers led the Buffalo Bills by a score of 35-3 in the second half yet lost the game. The franchise has still never won a Championship.
1996 - Greg Norman led by 6 strokes in the final round of The Masters, but shot a 78 on Sunday and lost the tournament. Norman would never win at Augusta.
2000 - The Portland Trail Blazers led the Los Angeles Lakers by 15 points in the fourth quarter of the Western Conference Finals' Game 7. Portland blew the lead and the Lakers advanced to the NBA Finals where they won the Championship.
1984 - John McEnroe faced Ivan Lendl in the Men's Final at the French Open and was cruising along with a two sets to none lead plus a three games to none advantage in the third set. McEnroe let that third set slip away, and went on to lose the match. During his tremendous career, McEnroe would never win a French Open.
1978 - In the American League East Division, the Boston Red Sox led the New York Yankees by 14 games but squandered the lead and lost the race. The Yankees went on to win the World Series.
2003 - The Chicago Cubs led the Florida Marlins 3 games to 2 and were winning 3-0 in the 8th inning of Game 6. With only four more outs needed for a berth in the World Series, the Cubs proceeded to give up 8 runs in that 8th inning, lost the game 8-3 and lost Game 7 the next night. The Marlins went on to win the World Series.
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2004 NYY "The Greatest Choke in the History of Sports"This statement would seem to be a bit of a stretch. That was certainly a rough one for the Yankees, but several instances of equal or superior choking in sports history come to mind quite quickly (and with some simple research, I'm sure this list could be made much longer).
1993 - In an NFL playoff game, the Houston Oilers led the Buffalo Bills by a score of 35-3 in the second half yet lost the game. The franchise has still never won a Championship.
1996 - Greg Norman led by 6 strokes in the final round of The Masters, but shot a 78 on Sunday and lost the tournament. Norman would never win at Augusta.
2000 - The Portland Trail Blazers led the Los Angeles Lakers by 15 points in the fourth quarter of the Western Conference Finals' Game 7. Portland blew the lead and the Lakers advanced to the NBA Finals where they won the Championship.
1984 - John McEnroe faced Ivan Lendl in the Men's Final at the French Open and was cruising along with a two sets to none lead plus a three games to none advantage in the third set. McEnroe let that third set slip away, and went on to lose the match. During his tremendous career, McEnroe would never win a French Open.
1978 - In the American League East Division, the Boston Red Sox led the New York Yankees by 14 games but squandered the lead and lost the race. The Yankees went on to win the World Series.
2003 - The Chicago Cubs led the Florida Marlins 3 games to 2 and were winning 3-0 in the 8th inning of Game 6. With only four more outs needed for a berth in the World Series, the Cubs proceeded to give up 8 runs in that 8th inning, lost the game 8-3 and lost Game 7 the next night. The Marlins went on to win the World Series.
“The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”
——Thomas Paine
——Thomas Paine
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Sorry, but none of those are equal to losing four straight games after being up 3-0 to a hated rival.
Signed,
An Angel fan that sat in CF all three Red Sox games in '86.
Signed,
An Angel fan that sat in CF all three Red Sox games in '86.