$$ ALERT Francisco Cordero $$

[LTDave]

I can understand people dropping big bucks on Santiago and Casilla much more than Cordero. Santos should be back relatively soon, so you'll get a few weeks of Cordero closing... so yeah, you'll get some saves, but you'll also have to endure his awful ERA/WHIP ratios while you're at it. He's just not a very good pitcher.. the job is Santos' when he comes back and unless someone knows something I don't, this isn't a season-threatening injury... do you really wanna lose a few hundred FAAB dollars for a couple saves? There's going to be several more new closers by midseason with all the current closers who are free agents after this season some are bound to be traded (Myers, Street, League, Balfour, Broxton) not to mention those whose skills aren't good enough to keep the job (Aceves, Nathan)... Pass.

[The Franchise]

I can understand people dropping big bucks on Santiago and Casilla much more than Cordero. Santos should be back relatively soon, so you'll get a few weeks of Cordero closing... so yeah, you'll get some saves, but you'll also have to endure his awful ERA/WHIP ratios while you're at it. He's just not a very good pitcher.. the job is Santos' when he comes back and unless someone knows something I don't, this isn't a season-threatening injury... do you really wanna lose a few hundred FAAB dollars for a couple saves? There's going to be several more new closers by midseason with all the current closers who are free agents after this season some are bound to be traded (Myers, Street, League, Balfour, Broxton) not to mention those whose skills aren't good enough to keep the job (Aceves, Nathan)... Pass.

What if that visit to LA turns out to be more than just inflammation?

[Navel Lint]

Francisco Cordero went for $421 in my Main Event League... I bid $146 and was honestly nervous I would get him and spend that much money on him this early in the season!

Everyone gets one BIG buy a year.... I just made mine.

Will it work out???? I don't know. But If I can't work the waiver wire the rest of the year on $400+ bucks, then worrying about how many saves Cordero will get is the least of my problems.

[Hells Satans]

If you're desperate, I get it, but man, Cordero absolutely sucks. I think he will get destroyed in the AL East but who knows, you could some Kevin Gregg-style numbers for a few months if Santos is cooked. But Kevin Gregg is pretty much what you are getting.

[LTDave]

I can understand people dropping big bucks on Santiago and Casilla much more than Cordero. Santos should be back relatively soon, so you'll get a few weeks of Cordero closing... so yeah, you'll get some saves, but you'll also have to endure his awful ERA/WHIP ratios while you're at it. He's just not a very good pitcher.. the job is Santos' when he comes back and unless someone knows something I don't, this isn't a season-threatening injury... do you really wanna lose a few hundred FAAB dollars for a couple saves? There's going to be several more new closers by midseason with all the current closers who are free agents after this season some are bound to be traded (Myers, Street, League, Balfour, Broxton) not to mention those whose skills aren't good enough to keep the job (Aceves, Nathan)... Pass.

What if that visit to LA turns out to be more than just inflammation?

Well then you guessed right. But you're bidding ASSUMING that's the case. Unless you think 2 weeks of saves is worth $200-400... in which case I just don't agree with you. It's like drafting Kenley Jansen ahead of someone who actually HAS the closer's role, like, I dunno.. Javy Guerra for instance. You're not getting any value, you're ASSUMING he gets the job (and likely sooner than later). How has that worked out for Jansen owners? I said from the start I don't think he's even gonna get that job.. at least not this year.

[Glenneration X]

My three Fernando Rodney buys week one for prices in the mid-100's is sure looking like a better "value" each and every week. Sorry Doughy.

[LTDave]

If you're desperate, I get it, but man, Cordero absolutely sucks. I think he will get destroyed in the AL East but who knows, you could some Kevin Gregg-style numbers for a few months if Santos is cooked. But Kevin Gregg is pretty much what you are getting.

That's the other problem, too. Cordero is NOT a good pitcher. I don't care how many saves he had last year, look at his peripherals! He had 5.4 K/9 (though he mysteriously found control last season as well) but all his predictive ERA stats were over 4. His BABIP was a career-low .214 and his LOB% was a career-high 82.3% so he was clearly very very lucky last season. Add to that the fact that he's 37 years-old and moved from the NL to the AL (and a good hitter's park no less) and I see no way he does well in that role for as long as he has it. I understand that saves are saves, but I would not be willing to drop more than like $50 on him and I own Santos.

[LTDave]

My three Fernando Rodney buys week one for prices in the mid-100's is sure looking like a better "value" each and every week. Sorry Doughy.

That's living rather dangerously too haha

[Glenneration X]

My three Fernando Rodney buys week one for prices in the mid-100's is sure looking like a better "value" each and every week. Sorry Doughy.

That's living rather dangerously too haha

No doubt, but a much less expensive danger.

[BK METS]

I can understand people dropping big bucks on Santiago and Casilla much more than Cordero. Santos should be back relatively soon, so you'll get a few weeks of Cordero closing... so yeah, you'll get some saves, but you'll also have to endure his awful ERA/WHIP ratios while you're at it. He's just not a very good pitcher.. the job is Santos' when he comes back and unless someone knows something I don't, this isn't a season-threatening injury... do you really wanna lose a few hundred FAAB dollars for a couple saves? There's going to be several more new closers by midseason with all the current closers who are free agents after this season some are bound to be traded (Myers, Street, League, Balfour, Broxton) not to mention those whose skills aren't good enough to keep the job (Aceves, Nathan)... Pass.

What if that visit to LA turns out to be more than just inflammation?

Well then you guessed right. But you're bidding ASSUMING that's the case. Unless you think 2 weeks of saves is worth $200-400... in which case I just don't agree with you. It's like drafting Kenley Jansen ahead of someone who actually HAS the closer's role, like, I dunno.. Javy Guerra for instance. You're not getting any value, you're ASSUMING he gets the job (and likely sooner than later). How has that worked out for Jansen owners? I said from the start I don't think he's even gonna get that job.. at least not this year.

328 career saves... 2.45 ERA last year with 37 out of 43 save chances. Cordero may not have the strikeout stuff of your typical closer, and yes, he may have the job for only a few weeks or a few months, but why wouldn't he have the same value as Henry Rodriguez or Fernando Rodney? I picked up Cordero in a few leagues for around $100+ where I needed help from injuries. I think $400 is a lot, but if someone needs saves or already has Santos, cannot blame them..

[LTDave]

My three Fernando Rodney buys week one for prices in the mid-100's is sure looking like a better "value" each and every week. Sorry Doughy.

That's living rather dangerously too haha

No doubt, but a much less expensive danger.

true dat

[LTDave]

What if that visit to LA turns out to be more than just inflammation?
Well then you guessed right. But you're bidding ASSUMING that's the case. Unless you think 2 weeks of saves is worth $200-400... in which case I just don't agree with you. It's like drafting Kenley Jansen ahead of someone who actually HAS the closer's role, like, I dunno.. Javy Guerra for instance. You're not getting any value, you're ASSUMING he gets the job (and likely sooner than later). How has that worked out for Jansen owners? I said from the start I don't think he's even gonna get that job.. at least not this year.

328 career saves... 2.45 ERA last year with 37 out of 43 save chances. Cordero may not have the strikeout stuff of your typical closer, and yes, he may have the job for only a few weeks or a few months, but why wouldn't he have the same value as Henry Rodriguez or Fernando Rodney? I picked up Cordero in a few leagues for around $100+ where I needed help from injuries. I think $400 is a lot, but if someone needs saves or already has Santos, cannot blame them..[/quote][/quote][/quote]

BK, you need to start looking at the stats BEHIND the stats... that 2.45 ERA last season had FLUKE written all over it. See my post above. He has allowed 2+ baserunners in like almost every appearance so far this season too. Why wouldn't he have the same value as Henry Rodriguez or Fernando Rodney? Because when they got the job they had MONTHS to get saves, whereas Cordero likely only has 2 weeks or so. Plus, Rodriguez is legit. Cordero and Rodney are both about as bad as closers come, skillswise (Capps and Nathan are up there too). I have Santos and I wouldn't spend more than $50... just my opinion though... obviously if there's significant damage to Santos' shoulder, then it's a good pick-up... but spending $200+ is assuming there IS significant damage... and we have no evidence that's the case (or at least I don't)

[Cocktails and Dreams]

Rodney somehow seems better this year than recent past. He is not near as bad as Cordero.

[Winston's Empire]

Francisco Cordero went for $421 in my Main Event League... I bid $146 and was honestly nervous I would get him and spend that much money on him this early in the season!

Everyone gets one BIG buy a year.... I just made mine.

Will it work out???? I don't know. But If I can't work the waiver wire the rest of the year on $400+ bucks, then worrying about how many saves Cordero will get is the least of my problems.

We all take a big stab sometime in the year Russ and this was just yours. Since I lost Brian Wilson to the DL, I admit I almost went all in on Cordero to secure the saves a bit, but I just couldn't talk myself into it. If I didn't have Aceves (even though he has sucked) I would have surely made the plunge and bid into that same $ Range you did. Good luck, its gonna be fun to watch what happens!

[BK METS]

Its funny... I see that people are spending $50-100 on Jon Rauch and he doesn't even have a closer's job, though he might eventually. Spending $100 on a guy who will definitely get save chances, maybe for a while, is not a bad play. Cordero is not an ideal closer, but same can be said for many closers. If you have Santos or are stuck with Storen/Farnsworth, its worth it. I don't know about $400, though. I also ended up picking up Cordero 2 weeks ago as a flyer, for $9, in my auction league, because I was not liking the way Santos looked in his first few save attempts. Who knows... Cordero has surprised us in the past with his non closer stuff. He does it ugly but puts up the numbers and thats all that matters. Who cares about obscure stats that really don't matter. This guy has done it for years and can easily do it again.

[rkulaski]

Will be interesting to see how many $300-$400 bids won Cordero once Tom posts all of the faab bids.

At this point it's simply a guess if you think Cordero closes more than 2-3 weeks. It's a lot of money to drop for not knowing imho.

All I care about right now is that I don't have anymore OFs go crashing into walls and going on the DL- yes I'm talking to you, Chris Young and Lorenzo Cain!! At least Cain is back this week.

[The Franchise]

I can understand people dropping big bucks on Santiago and Casilla much more than Cordero. Santos should be back relatively soon, so you'll get a few weeks of Cordero closing... so yeah, you'll get some saves, but you'll also have to endure his awful ERA/WHIP ratios while you're at it. He's just not a very good pitcher.. the job is Santos' when he comes back and unless someone knows something I don't, this isn't a season-threatening injury... do you really wanna lose a few hundred FAAB dollars for a couple saves? There's going to be several more new closers by midseason with all the current closers who are free agents after this season some are bound to be traded (Myers, Street, League, Balfour, Broxton) not to mention those whose skills aren't good enough to keep the job (Aceves, Nathan)... Pass.

What if that visit to LA turns out to be more than just inflammation?

Well then you guessed right. But you're bidding ASSUMING that's the case. Unless you think 2 weeks of saves is worth $200-400... in which case I just don't agree with you. It's like drafting Kenley Jansen ahead of someone who actually HAS the closer's role, like, I dunno.. Javy Guerra for instance. You're not getting any value, you're ASSUMING he gets the job (and likely sooner than later). How has that worked out for Jansen owners? I said from the start I don't think he's even gonna get that job.. at least not this year.

I didn't bid on him, just thought it made sense for those who are desperate for saves since the Santos injury could turn into a Storen type injury. If he is back closing in 2 weeks then it's money wasted...... I made my big bid week 1 on Santiago

[Edwards Kings]

You guys don't have Gaëtan Lavoie in your leagues. In yet another wise move, Cordero was his 30th round pick. NICE!

[chest .rockwell]

You guys don't have Gaëtan Lavoie in your leagues. In yet another wise move, Cordero was his 30th round pick. NICE!

would it be wise to you a 23rd round pick on him? I did and have spent the past few weeks wondering why I did something so stupid.

I actually got an email the morning of the draft from an nfbc guy questioning Santos's health with some info. I never quite got around to dropping Cordero. A little luck is a good thing.

[Edwards Kings]

You guys don't have Gaëtan Lavoie in your leagues. In yet another wise move, Cordero was his 30th round pick. NICE!

would it be wise to you a 23rd round pick on him? I did and have spent the past few weeks wondering why I did something so stupid.

I actually got an email the morning of the draft from an nfbc guy questioning Santos's health with some info. I never quite got around to dropping Cordero. A little luck is a good thing.

You are da' man! Good looking AND lucky! Nice move, Chesty.

[LTDave]

I didn't bid on him, just thought it made sense for those who are desperate for saves since the Santos injury could turn into a Storen type injury. If he is back closing in 2 weeks then it's money wasted...... I made my big bid week 1 on Santiago[/quote]

See, bidding on Santiago was a completely different situation to me, though. It's clear the White Sox never saw Thornton as a closer. Same with Crain. It's possible they could have gone with Reed, but watching how they used pitchers in ST it was pretty clear they liked Santiago in the role... so when he got that first save and they annointed him closer (for seemingly the rest of the year) buying big on a full-year of a closer in week 1 is a great buy. I didn't go big enough, but I also had 3 closers so I chose to hold onto my money instead...

[LTDave]

You guys don't have Gaëtan Lavoie in your leagues. In yet another wise move, Cordero was his 30th round pick. NICE!

would it be wise to you a 23rd round pick on him? I did and have spent the past few weeks wondering why I did something so stupid.

I actually got an email the morning of the draft from an nfbc guy questioning Santos's health with some info. I never quite got around to dropping Cordero. A little luck is a good thing.

hahaha... better to be lucky than good, eh Kent?

[BK METS]

2 for 2 Sergio who?

[LTDave]

Ever hear the term "house of cards"? Sergio is the closer. They're not giving up on him regardless of whether Cordero converts every save from now til he gets back...

[Quack]

Will be interesting to see how many $300-$400 bids won Cordero once Tom posts all of the faab bids.

At this point it's simply a guess if you think Cordero closes more than 2-3 weeks. It's a lot of money to drop for not knowing imho.

Sergio Santos will be out for at least the next four weeks due to inflammation in his right shoulder.
Santos recently underwent an MRI which revealed no structural damage, but he was told to not throw for the next two weeks. He'll have to ramp things up slowly from there and likely make a couple minor league rehab appearances, so we likely won't see him back in the Jays' bullpen until late May.

Now the question on how long (at the minimum) is answered....ball is in Cordero's court on taking full advantage of the opportunity at hand.