King Felix

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:36 am

Last year he was hyped ruthlessly on these very boards. This year he becomes the youngest opening day starter since Doc in '85.

ADP had him at pick 80. Is this the year he becomes the King? Or will he give his owners more of a prince like return on their investment?

Over or Under on these numbers:

16 Wins

195 K's

3.66 Era

1.24 Whip

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:38 am

16 Wins - try 13, maybe 14

195 K's - try 180 (his innings will still be limited)

3.66 Era - 3.50 - 3.60 sounds good

1.24 Whip - sounds about right

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:47 am

From a Seattle Times article:

The new Felix Hernandez — "a leaner, better version than we've seen in the past," gushed manager Mike Hargrove.

The man is ripped. The pudginess that led to worries he was morphing into another Bartolo Colon has been transformed into solid muscle.

Last year, the Mariners resolved to hold Hernandez under 200 innings, including spring training. But Bavasi indicated that they are ready to take off the restraints. Hernandez turns 21 on April 8.

"It's a different day with this boy," Bavasi said. "Last year, it was real easy to say we were going to hold him to 200 innings. If we take that approach now, you guys [the media] will probably slit my throat."

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:50 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

16 Wins - try 13, maybe 14

195 K's - try 180 (his innings will still be limited)

3.66 Era - 3.50 - 3.60 sounds good

1.24 Whip - sounds about right the kid gloves are off. Hargrove and the GM HAVE to win this year or they're both gone. They will RIDE Felix to a 225 inning season

Q

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:51 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

They will RIDE Felix to a 225 inning season

Q if you are counting on this, you'll be disappointed.

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:03 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

Last year he was hyped ruthlessly on these very boards. This year he becomes the youngest opening day starter since Doc in '85.

ADP had him at pick 80. Is this the year he becomes the King? Or will he give his owners more of a prince like return on their investment?

Over or Under on these numbers:

16 Wins

195 K's

3.66 Era

1.24 Whip I expect Seattle to be much improved this year finishing ahead of Oakland and Texas in the West.

I think the number of Wins is just about right on target (15-17).

He should reach 200+ K's if he avoids the DL, but an ERA under 4.00 would be a nice accomplishment and getting under 3.75 seems unlikely.

Like the Wins, I'd expect his WHIP to be right around the number (1.23-1.25).

So, I'd say: PUSH - OVER - OVER - PUSH... but in the final analysis he'll have a very solid season.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:06 am

under on Wins (15)

over on K's (201)

under (better) on era and whip 3.30/1.20

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:10 am

I pick the under. Not a curse to anyone who has him, but a strained oblique will cost him six starts mid year and forearm tighness/dead arm/sore shoulder costs him September.

Seattle finishes in the basement. Ichiro signs with a new team. Gates moves Microsoft to Iowa. Oregon annexes Mount Rainier.

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:18 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

I pick the under. Not a curse to anyone who has him, but a strained oblique will cost him six starts mid year and forearm tighness/dead arm/sore shoulder costs him September.

Seattle finishes in the basement. Ichiro signs with a new team. Gates moves Microsoft to Iowa. Oregon annexes Mount Rainier. Well, at least your mentality is not that of cursing the team's chances for success

Cooperstown · Post by **Cooperstown** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:30 am

With Putz dinged and a bullpen that includes Reitsma as their setup man, he gets the under in wins for sure. In fact, I'll take the over on ERA because the bullpen will allow the inherited runners to score giving more ER's to Felix. The under on WHIP though.

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:08 pm

Not a bad start to the season, eh?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:45 pm

Originally posted by TheKing:

Not a bad start to the season, eh? Look at the weak lineup he faced

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:07 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by TheKing:

Not a bad start to the season, eh? Look at the weak lineup he faced

[/QUOTE]Trying to rile young Oakchunas aren't you? You know he is lurking....

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:11 pm

This just in: he's pretty good!

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:37 pm

As always GG was right, just hyped one year early.

BigHurt · Post by **BigHurt** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:31 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

As always GG was right, just hyped one year early. So, you are saying Gekko was right? I disagree.

Most people think Felix will be great, the tough part is predicting when. What if I hype Alex Gordon a ton this year and tell everyone to draft him early. Then he has a disappointing season but bounces back with a monster 2008. Does that mean I was correct to tout him for 2007?

marinersfan · Post by **marinersfan** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:35 pm

Hargrove and the Mariners' brass will certainly push him in the innings department. Its more likely that he will go down with an arm injury late in the season than it is for him to pitch 225 innings. Being a Seattle homer, I hope not, but the M's have a bad track record with young arms.

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:36 am

Originally posted by BigHurt:

quote:Originally posted by TheKing:

As always GG was right, just hyped one year early. So, you are saying Gekko was right? I disagree.

Most people think Felix will be great, the tough part is predicting when. What if I hype Alex Gordon a ton this year and tell everyone to draft him early. Then he has a disappointing season but bounces back with a monster 2008. Does that mean I was correct to tout him for 2007? [/QUOTE]GG didn't predict him to be good or great like many other fantasy "experts". He predicted an elite talent the likes of which we haven't seen since the days of Doc in '85.

Don't be angry/jealous of his proven forecasting mastery. Just listen and learn.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:09 am

What happened to "Gordon's Abused Apprentice"???

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:36 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

What happened to "Gordon's Abused Apprentice"??? Got a bit stale. Maybe I'll bring it back in '08.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:41 pm

Uh oh...

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:54 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

Uh oh... That sucks! I don't have him but you hate to see a 21 year old talent like that get injured.

Bad Day for Felix and Myers owners!!

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:02 pm

FELIX UPDATE:

He felt tightness in his right elbow!!

Thats scary

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:49 am

I heard he was in severe pain on the mound. That would be a lot worse than "tightness". Felix was a good pick, but at this point I'd be worried.