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During the Arizona Fall League Symposium, we held a breakout session with 15 participants, 12 of which played in the NFBC last year. We held a quick mock draft and got through 12 rounds in 50 minutes. It was a fun speed draft -- and even had some guys requesting a pay speed draft in the future -- and some of the results are interesting. Without uncovering the participants (they can chime in if they'd like), here are the first 12 rounds with yours truly drafting from the 15th spot:
FIRST ROUND
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Hanley Ramirez
3. Grady Sizemore
4. David Wright
5. Albert Pujols
6. Chase Utley
7. Josh Hamilton
8. Jose Reyes
9. Miguel Cabrera
10. Matt Holliday
11. Ryan Braun
12. B.J. Upton
13. Jimmy Rollins
14. Lance Berkman
15. Ryan Howard
SECOND ROUND
16. Ian Kinsler
17. Dustin Pedroia
18. Mark Teixeira
19. Carlos Beltran
20. Carl Crawford
21. Alfonso Soriano
22. Brandon Phillips
23. Manny Ramirez
24. Evan Longoria
25. Johan Santana
26. Carlos Lee
27. Ichiro Suzuki
28. Tim Lincecum
29. Carlos Quentin
30. Justin Morneau
THIRD ROUND
31. C.C. Sabathia
32. David Ortiz
33. Brian Roberts
34. Joe Mauer
35. Rafael Furcal
36. Aramis Ramirez
37. Matt Kemp
38. Alexei Ramirez
39. Jason Bay
40. Brandon Webb
41. Curtis Granderson
42. Prince Fielder
43. Vladimir Guerrero
44. Nick Markakis
45. Russell Martin
FOURTH ROUND
46. Alexis Rios
47. Adrian Gonzalez
48. Corey Hart
49. Brian McCann
50. Cole Hamels
51. Kevin Youkilis
52. Shane Victorino
53. Dan Haren
54. Jake Peavy
55. Geovanny Soto
56. A.J. Burnett
57. Magglio Ordonez
58. Roy Halladay
59. Bobby Abreu
60. Jacoby Ellsbury
FIFTH ROUND
61. Torii Hunter
62. Chipper Jones
63. Cliff Lee
64. Francisco Rodriguez
65. Victor Martinez
66. Nate McLouth
67. Ervin Santana
68. Jermaine Dye
69. Garrett Atkins
70. Jonathan Papelbon
71. Francisco Liriano
72. Brad Lidge
73. Hunter Pence
74. Troy Tulowitzki
75. Joe Nathan
SIXTH ROUND
76. Scott Kazmir
77. Jay Bruce
78. James Shields
79. Derek Lee
80. Johnny Damon
81. Dan Uggla
82. Stephen Drew
83. Carlos Pena
84. Howie Kendrick
85. Michael Young
86. Mariano Rivera
87. Jon Lester
88. Joakim Soria
89. Matt Cain
90. Adam Dunn
SEVENTH ROUND
91. Kerry Wood
92. Brad Hawpe
93. J.J. Hardy
94. Derek Jeter
95. Elijah Dukes
96. Carlos Delgado
97. Justin Verlander
98. Chris Davis
99. John Beckett
100. Chone Figgins
101. John Lackey
102. Felix Hernandez
103. Chad Billingsley
104. Jorge Cantu
105. Roy Oswalt
EIGHTH ROUND
106. Joey Votto
107. Delmon Young
108. Robinson Cano
109. Miguel Tejada
110. Yovani Gallardo
111. Vernon Wells
112. Ricky Nolasco
113. Rich Harden
114. Jonny Peralta
115. Daisuke Matsuzaka
116. Alex Gordon
117. Mark Reynolds
118. Xavier Nady
119. Aubrey Huff
120. Ryan Ludwick
NINTH ROUND
121. Andre Ethier
122. Zach Greinke
123. Pat Burrell
124. Raul Ibanez
125. Kelly Johnson
126. Willy Tavares
127. Edinson Volquez
128. Jose Valverde
129. Chris Young (SP)
130. Matt Garza
131. Hank Blalock
132. Chris Young (OF)
133. Bobby Jenks
134. B.J. Ryan
135. Eric Byrnes
TENTH ROUND
136. Adrian Beltre
137. Aaron Harang
138. Ryan Zimmerman
139. Ryan Doumit
140. Milton Bradley
141. Benjie Molina
142. Orlando Cabrera
143. Mark DeRosa
144. Joba Chamberlain
145. David Price
146. Ty Wigginton
147. James Loney
148. Troy Glaus
149. Dionar Navarro
150. Carlos Zambrano
ELEVENTH ROUND
151. Francisco Cordero
152. Kurt Suzuki
153. Brian Fuentes
154. Ryan Dempster
155. Josh Johnson
156. Jonathan Broxton
157. Lastings Milledge
158. Conor Jackson
159. Matt Capps
160. Adam Wainwright
161. Brett Myers
162. J.D. Drew
163. Javier Vazquez
164. Jered Weaver
165. Paul Konerko
TWELFTH ROUND:
166. Ben Sheets
167. Scott Baker
168. Jayson Werth
169. Chien-Ming Wang
170. Mike Jacobs
171. Derek Lowe
172. Chris Iannetta
173. Brian Wilson
174. Clayton Kershaw
175. Mike Mussina
176. John Maine
177. Placido Polanco
178. Mike Napoli
179. J.J. Putz
180. Max Scherzer
Thoughts?
[ November 07, 2008, 06:37 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]
FIRST ROUND
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Hanley Ramirez
3. Grady Sizemore
4. David Wright
5. Albert Pujols
6. Chase Utley
7. Josh Hamilton
8. Jose Reyes
9. Miguel Cabrera
10. Matt Holliday
11. Ryan Braun
12. B.J. Upton
13. Jimmy Rollins
14. Lance Berkman
15. Ryan Howard
SECOND ROUND
16. Ian Kinsler
17. Dustin Pedroia
18. Mark Teixeira
19. Carlos Beltran
20. Carl Crawford
21. Alfonso Soriano
22. Brandon Phillips
23. Manny Ramirez
24. Evan Longoria
25. Johan Santana
26. Carlos Lee
27. Ichiro Suzuki
28. Tim Lincecum
29. Carlos Quentin
30. Justin Morneau
THIRD ROUND
31. C.C. Sabathia
32. David Ortiz
33. Brian Roberts
34. Joe Mauer
35. Rafael Furcal
36. Aramis Ramirez
37. Matt Kemp
38. Alexei Ramirez
39. Jason Bay
40. Brandon Webb
41. Curtis Granderson
42. Prince Fielder
43. Vladimir Guerrero
44. Nick Markakis
45. Russell Martin
FOURTH ROUND
46. Alexis Rios
47. Adrian Gonzalez
48. Corey Hart
49. Brian McCann
50. Cole Hamels
51. Kevin Youkilis
52. Shane Victorino
53. Dan Haren
54. Jake Peavy
55. Geovanny Soto
56. A.J. Burnett
57. Magglio Ordonez
58. Roy Halladay
59. Bobby Abreu
60. Jacoby Ellsbury
FIFTH ROUND
61. Torii Hunter
62. Chipper Jones
63. Cliff Lee
64. Francisco Rodriguez
65. Victor Martinez
66. Nate McLouth
67. Ervin Santana
68. Jermaine Dye
69. Garrett Atkins
70. Jonathan Papelbon
71. Francisco Liriano
72. Brad Lidge
73. Hunter Pence
74. Troy Tulowitzki
75. Joe Nathan
SIXTH ROUND
76. Scott Kazmir
77. Jay Bruce
78. James Shields
79. Derek Lee
80. Johnny Damon
81. Dan Uggla
82. Stephen Drew
83. Carlos Pena
84. Howie Kendrick
85. Michael Young
86. Mariano Rivera
87. Jon Lester
88. Joakim Soria
89. Matt Cain
90. Adam Dunn
SEVENTH ROUND
91. Kerry Wood
92. Brad Hawpe
93. J.J. Hardy
94. Derek Jeter
95. Elijah Dukes
96. Carlos Delgado
97. Justin Verlander
98. Chris Davis
99. John Beckett
100. Chone Figgins
101. John Lackey
102. Felix Hernandez
103. Chad Billingsley
104. Jorge Cantu
105. Roy Oswalt
EIGHTH ROUND
106. Joey Votto
107. Delmon Young
108. Robinson Cano
109. Miguel Tejada
110. Yovani Gallardo
111. Vernon Wells
112. Ricky Nolasco
113. Rich Harden
114. Jonny Peralta
115. Daisuke Matsuzaka
116. Alex Gordon
117. Mark Reynolds
118. Xavier Nady
119. Aubrey Huff
120. Ryan Ludwick
NINTH ROUND
121. Andre Ethier
122. Zach Greinke
123. Pat Burrell
124. Raul Ibanez
125. Kelly Johnson
126. Willy Tavares
127. Edinson Volquez
128. Jose Valverde
129. Chris Young (SP)
130. Matt Garza
131. Hank Blalock
132. Chris Young (OF)
133. Bobby Jenks
134. B.J. Ryan
135. Eric Byrnes
TENTH ROUND
136. Adrian Beltre
137. Aaron Harang
138. Ryan Zimmerman
139. Ryan Doumit
140. Milton Bradley
141. Benjie Molina
142. Orlando Cabrera
143. Mark DeRosa
144. Joba Chamberlain
145. David Price
146. Ty Wigginton
147. James Loney
148. Troy Glaus
149. Dionar Navarro
150. Carlos Zambrano
ELEVENTH ROUND
151. Francisco Cordero
152. Kurt Suzuki
153. Brian Fuentes
154. Ryan Dempster
155. Josh Johnson
156. Jonathan Broxton
157. Lastings Milledge
158. Conor Jackson
159. Matt Capps
160. Adam Wainwright
161. Brett Myers
162. J.D. Drew
163. Javier Vazquez
164. Jered Weaver
165. Paul Konerko
TWELFTH ROUND:
166. Ben Sheets
167. Scott Baker
168. Jayson Werth
169. Chien-Ming Wang
170. Mike Jacobs
171. Derek Lowe
172. Chris Iannetta
173. Brian Wilson
174. Clayton Kershaw
175. Mike Mussina
176. John Maine
177. Placido Polanco
178. Mike Napoli
179. J.J. Putz
180. Max Scherzer
Thoughts?
[ November 07, 2008, 06:37 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]
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Greg:
Yo Greg......me thinks this was ADRIAN?
47. Alex Gonzalez
Yo Greg......me thinks this was ADRIAN?

47. Alex Gonzalez
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i think the booze kicked in right around pick 162. good thing you stopped after 12 rounds
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Originally posted by Sack:
Greg:
Yo Greg......me thinks this was ADRIAN?
47. Alex Gonzalez Tell Chip thanks for the spell check!
Greg:
Yo Greg......me thinks this was ADRIAN?

47. Alex Gonzalez Tell Chip thanks for the spell check!

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Greg,
You have two Carlos Lee's (#26 and #63). Since Derek Lee is at #79, I assume #63 is really Cliff "Clavin" Lee?
You have two Carlos Lee's (#26 and #63). Since Derek Lee is at #79, I assume #63 is really Cliff "Clavin" Lee?
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
Greg,
You have two Carlos Lee's (#26 and #63). Since Derek Lee is at #79, I assume #63 is really Cliff "Clavin" Lee? Yup, good catch. I corrected it now.
Greg,
You have two Carlos Lee's (#26 and #63). Since Derek Lee is at #79, I assume #63 is really Cliff "Clavin" Lee? Yup, good catch. I corrected it now.
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Jose Reyes #8...AFTER Josh Hamilton?
Hamilton had a great half, but...
Whoever had the #8 pick was saying "Why can't this happen next March?"
Hamilton had a great half, but...
Whoever had the #8 pick was saying "Why can't this happen next March?"
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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Even with the "speed" aspect of the AFL Mock, of the three drafts posted, 159 of 180 (88%) of the players taken in the first twelve rounds were common. Another 15 players were taken in the top twelve rounds in at least two of the three mocks. In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1)
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1)
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
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Greg,
Are you related to Scott Kazmir?
Are you related to Scott Kazmir?
"Everyone is born right-handed, only the greatest overcome it."
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Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
Jose Reyes #8...AFTER Josh Hamilton?
Hamilton had a great half, but...
Whoever had the #8 pick was saying "Why can't this happen next March?"
I can HOPE it does Wayne
Jose Reyes #8...AFTER Josh Hamilton?
Hamilton had a great half, but...
Whoever had the #8 pick was saying "Why can't this happen next March?"



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Originally posted by Joe Sambito:
Greg,
Are you related to Scott Kazmir? I must be wrong about him because he falls farther and farther in each mock draft. But I believe in him, so we'll see.
Nah, we're not related. He's not Dutch!!
Greg,
Are you related to Scott Kazmir? I must be wrong about him because he falls farther and farther in each mock draft. But I believe in him, so we'll see.
Nah, we're not related. He's not Dutch!!

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If it ain't Dutch - it ain't Much!
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sizemore and hamilton top 2 OF's taken....you got to love it!
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Any of the peanut gallery want to comment on my draft from the 8 hole?
1.08 Jose Reyes, SS
2.08 Manny Ramirez, OF
3.08 Alexei Ramirez, 2B
4.08 Dan Haren, SP1
5.08 Jermaine Dye, OF
6.08 Carlos Pena, 1B
7.08 Chris Davis, 3B
8.08 Rich Harden, SP2
9.08 Jose Valverde, CL1
10.08 Mark De Rosa, MI (2B/3B/OF)
11.08 Conor Jackson, OF/CI
12.08 Brian Wilson, Beach Boys
1.08 Jose Reyes, SS
2.08 Manny Ramirez, OF
3.08 Alexei Ramirez, 2B
4.08 Dan Haren, SP1
5.08 Jermaine Dye, OF
6.08 Carlos Pena, 1B
7.08 Chris Davis, 3B
8.08 Rich Harden, SP2
9.08 Jose Valverde, CL1
10.08 Mark De Rosa, MI (2B/3B/OF)
11.08 Conor Jackson, OF/CI
12.08 Brian Wilson, Beach Boys
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Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1) May just be me, but I would NOT touch any of these guys in the first 12 rounds.
[ November 10, 2008, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: Head 2 Head ]
In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1) May just be me, but I would NOT touch any of these guys in the first 12 rounds.
[ November 10, 2008, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: Head 2 Head ]
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." - Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by Head 2 Head:
quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1) May just be me, but I would touch any of these guys in the first 12 rounds.
[/QUOTE]Inappropriate!!

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1) May just be me, but I would touch any of these guys in the first 12 rounds.
[/QUOTE]Inappropriate!!


On my tombstone-
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
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Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by Head 2 Head:
quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1) May just be me, but I would touch any of these guys in the first 12 rounds.
[/QUOTE]Inappropriate!!
[/QUOTE]LOL Guess I should proof read.
quote:Originally posted by Head 2 Head:
quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:
In all, only 201 players were taken in the first 180 picks of at least one of the three drafts.
Some of the real outliers may be:
Dioner Navarro (Pick #255 in MD#1)
JD Drew (Pick #259 in MD#1)
Mike Mussina (Pick #273 in MD#1)
Kurt Suzuki (Pick #299 in MD#1) May just be me, but I would touch any of these guys in the first 12 rounds.
[/QUOTE]Inappropriate!!


"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." - Winston Churchill