Pick apart my team!!!

pancho11 · Post by **pancho11** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:08 am

C Hernandez Laird

1b Delgado

2b K Johnson

SS Reyes

3B Youk

MI Y Escobar

CI Wigginton

OF Crawford Ethier Bradley Choo Church Dan Murphy Pearce

Util Garko

P Peavy Halladay Nolasco Pelfrey --- Fuentes and B WIlson -- then i have a slew of guys for last 3 spots -- A Cook, Blanton, Byrd, Zumaya, Rodney, Ceda

Fire Away

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:28 am

I don't really like your end game pitchers but other than that it is a pretty good group. Also, I am assuming that you took Youk really early in round 3 - don't know if I would do that either.

It is a team you can win with, if you work the waiver wire well.

pancho11 · Post by **pancho11** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:41 am

freddie i totally agree not happy about my starters after pelf -- i do like the rodney zumaya ceda depth feel like ill hit on a closer there

And yes i did jump the gun a tad on Youk i agree

I did hit all my targets though with conservative estimates for choo and garko who i think can both have pretty big years

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:45 am

My only observation is to wonder if Wigginton, Bradley, Garko, Choo, Church, and Murphy will get the number of AB's you are looking for? I am trying to assess the impact of Manny-Man signing in LA will have on Ethier as well.

Good luck!

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:54 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

My only observation is to wonder if Wigginton, Bradley, Garko, Choo, Church, and Murphy will get the number of AB's you are looking for? I am trying to assess the impact of Manny-Man signing in LA will have on Ethier as well.

Good luck! I had the same observation. The counting stats look thin based on at bats.

Pete

pancho11 · Post by **pancho11** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:33 am

I hit 265 hr 175 sb 1125 r 1085 rbi by my projections

i was trying to get to 250 150 1100 1050 so i think i did well

ethier full time

garko will get lion share

Between murphy and church one will emerge as aeverday of teh other will platoon with tatis

wiggy i think plays everyday -- thats why he went to the o's they basically guaranteed him 500+ ab

Choo and Bradley are risks but i dont see how they keep choo off the field thsi year

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:33 am

I thing its a pretty balanced team.Maybe one more safe power hitter would have been nice.Bradly is alway's nicked up and he cant dh this year ,what round did you get him maybe a safer pick here with 30 homer power.I think Wiggington will put up good numbers and at least 400 to 500 at bat's.He had a monster 2nd half.I also wouldnt worry about Either with Manny signed he actually hit his best with Manny in the lineup and he now has more value.Pierre is now the odd man outand want's to be traded.good luck

Lost Sailor · Post by **Lost Sailor** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:52 am

ethier full timeI hope you're right as I have Ethier elsewhere, but I don't think theres any way that Andre gets 500 ABs. Pierre should start against all LHP.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:57 am

Originally posted by pancho11:

C Hernandez Laird

1b Delgado

2b K Johnson

SS Reyes

3B Youk

MI Y Escobar

CI Wigginton

OF Crawford Ethier Bradley Choo Church Dan Murphy Pearce

Util Garko

P Peavy Halladay Nolasco Pelfrey --- Fuentes and B WIlson -- then i have a slew of guys for last 3 spots -- A Cook, Blanton, Byrd, Zumaya, Rodney, Ceda

Fire Away First, you gotta say what kind of league you're in. Is this a mock draft?

pancho11 · Post by **pancho11** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:16 am

Satellite

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:46 am

To tell the truth. Pretty sad. sorry.

swampass · Post by **swampass** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:57 am

i like your infield. im not a fan of your OF at all and i dont see garko getting nearly enough at bats to make him solid at UT. but that being said he is one pronk or victor injury away from being in there. so maybe not too bad.

like the front half of your staff, but find the 2nd half completely replaceable.

i cant wait to see what group of losers i can grab. FAAB will be where you and everyone else lives to win their league.

thanks for posting your squad and giving us all a little taste.

JohnP · Post by **JohnP** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:04 am

Originally posted by pancho11:

I hit 265 hr 175 sb 1125 r 1085 rbi by my projections

i was trying to get to 250 150 1100 1050 so i think i did well

ethier full time

garko will get lion share

Between murphy and church one will emerge as aeverday of teh other will platoon with tatis

wiggy i think plays everyday -- thats why he went to the o's they basically guaranteed him 500+ ab

Choo and Bradley are risks but i dont see how they keep choo off the field thsi year Might want to check the source of your projections...looks to me like you end up short on runs (1030), hr (220), & rbi (<1000). But then again...maybe I am the one that needs to check the source of my projections.

Hobo Zeke · Post by **Hobo Zeke** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:18 am

SWAMPASS, Happy Birthday!

swampass · Post by **swampass** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:22 am

Originally posted by Hobo Zeke:

SWAMPASS, Happy Birthday! thanks hobo zeke. wish i could get my bday wish and find out what my draft pick would be!

didnt even realize that stuff showed up. shows how little i know about this posting business.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:00 pm

I used all your hitters except Pearce and Murphy, since they are likely your bench guys.

I have you projected at:

.282

238 HR

1053 R

1006 RBI

150 SB

I used: Peavy, Halladay, Nolasco, Pelfrey, Blanton, Cook, Rodney, Wilson and Fuentes for your pitching.

94 W

76 Sv

1097 K

3.90 ERA

1.33 WHIP

I have to say - I agree with Walla. That's not a good squad. Your pitching really falls off after Peavy / Hallady to a couple of might be goods and a lot of...yeech.

I presume you went Reyes / Crawford which is what cost you in the power categories. You'll need a big power stick at some point.

Edit: Pitching stuff

[ March 06, 2009, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Hawk ]

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:45 pm

How many saves did you project for Rodney my sleeper of the year.

Lunatic · Post by **Lunatic** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:55 pm

I also agree with Walla; I don't like that squad at all. .282 is generous; it will struggle to hit .280

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:14 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

How many saves did you project for Rodney my sleeper of the year. I have Rodney at a dozen saves. He could get zero. He could get a dozen or he could get alot more. Obviously, if he is THE MAN he'll pickup about 30 and you'll reach your Saves target.

That'd still be the only target you'd hit though. Sorry man.

pancho11 · Post by **pancho11** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:32 am

C - 25 hr

1b - 32 hr

2b - 13 hr

ss - 20 hr

3b - 25 hr

mi - 12 hr

ci - 23 hr

OF - 85 hr

util - 20 hr

That leaves me at 255 hr -- thats also extremele conservative in the OF in my opinion -- i also could easily growth from the 2b SS MI 3b

i also dont think your wildly conservation projections leave me that far away from my targets -- certainly with a good FAAB pu or two

My pitching backend is weak -- but if my front end holds up -- i think i could piece together the back

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:59 am

I think you projection goals are very short to start, even if you hit your targets in hitting you are going to be short of the leaders. You need to increase your targets because of injury and other factors. I would try to target

BA 280

R 1150

HR 280

RBI 1120

SB 150

the issue with pitching, no matter how you work the waiver wire, you are going to be extremely short in K's and probably will end up hurting whip and era trying to catch up in K's

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:57 am

I agree with the guys who say your low...

I figure your team for about 240/150 and 1050-1100 in R's and 950-1000 in RBI's and a BA under .280.

Pitching ends up with a similar overall point total of between 35-40 pitching points. ERA and WHIP look decent, but K's and W's are well below where they need to be.

Maybe a 7th place finish in the league?

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:37 am

Originally posted by pancho11:

C - 25 hr

1b - 32 hr

2b - 13 hr

ss - 20 hr

3b - 25 hr

mi - 12 hr

ci - 23 hr

OF - 85 hr

util - 20 hrI don't see you getting 85 HR from your OF, sorry. Also don't see Delgado repeating that post-Wille outburst. Garko is a stretch at 20 HR too.

I don't think my estimations are "wildly conservative" at all.

My pitching backend is weak -- but if my front end holds up -- i think i could piece together the back You had better be a whiz at working the FAAB. You need power and pitching.

You asked to pick apart your team. I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm giving you an outsiders honest estimation. Believe it, don't believe it, that's up to you

SplendidSplinter · Post by **SplendidSplinter** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:29 am

Originally posted by pancho11:

C Hernandez Laird

1b Delgado

2b K Johnson

SS Reyes

3B Youk

MI Y Escobar

CI Wigginton

OF Crawford Ethier Bradley Choo Church Dan Murphy Pearce

Util Garko

P Peavy Halladay Nolasco Pelfrey --- Fuentes and B WIlson -- then i have a slew of guys for last 3 spots -- A Cook, Blanton, Byrd, Zumaya, Rodney, Ceda

Fire Away FWIW, I ran the offense through my projections and came up with:

BA: .284 (though you do have a fair amount of downside here)

R: 1052

HR: 232

RBI: 1068

SB: 161

-I like Ramon Hernandez a lot this season, though I have/will drafted/draft a solid backup C for him.

-Fuentes is another pick I like--saves annually rain in L.A./Anaheim, yet he comes at an affordable cost.

-I have steered completely clear of Wigginton this draft season. As of today, he is the wrong side of a platoon with Luke Scott at DH. He probably went to Baltimore because it was the only team offering a multi-year deal worth anything (no team wanted him as a regular 3B given his defense). He may eventually find regular ABs since he backs up OF, 1B, 2B, and 3B, but I would rather own him as a $1-2 stash (in auction) than as a starter. I have him down for 18 HR anyway.

-Not a fan of Garko. I see the writing on the wall when Wedge says he will try to find Garko time in the OF. For one, it means he is not slated to receive enough regular time in the IF. For two, it means Wedge is trying to find a platoon mate for one of your OF, Choo, who I really like (unless Garko steals PT vs. LHP). A Garko/Wigginton duo at CI should work well enough, though. That leaves the U slot open, but that can be filled in numerous ways.

Otherwise, I agree with the poster who said your goals should have been higher. Personally, I enter with the following targets:

BA: .285 (can't be too safe here given yearly BA fluctuations)

R: 1150

HR: 280

RBI: 1140

SB: 180

I call these "goals" knowing that injuries/busts/decline/[projections that make me look like an idiot by June] are likely to take their toll during the season, and I want to have some breathing room if/when they do. If my team is not projected to win the league by at least 10-15 points after the draft, I know I am in for a grind.

I think your team will need work during the season. The good thing is you are solid at C/C/1B/2B/SS. In my experience, the two easiest positions (excluding U) at which to improve midseason are SP and OF. The not-so-good thing is this team could really use a HR/RBI infusion. Unless you find a Gamel/LaPorta type who receives the call and hits the ground running, I am generally pessimistic about being about to supplement those categories midseason. My honest expectation is this team finishes 6th-10th.