The Blanton Ripoff

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:25 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

with respect to nolasco, is it entirely surprising? HUGE inning jump, coming off an injury, etc. if anyone screamed buyer beware(apart from any hitter on my offense apparently), it was nolasco. Entirely? Well, no, but not for the reason you suggest. His K/9 and BB/9 demonstrate that at least now, he is healthy and not affected by the increased workload. I believe these concerns will be greater as the season progresses.

I did have some concern that last season, his skills jumped up pretty significantly, and that he might struggle maintaining those elevated levels, which in fact is the case. That said, his peripherals are still excellent and portend a turnaround once the hit rate corrects.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:27 am

Across the street from Wrigley - Hurricane Blanton is coming to town.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:29 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

The funniest part about this Gekko, is that you are showing one of the bigger fantasy mistakes, you talk up your struggling player so much, you'll end up keeping him longer than you ever should. nah, i'm showing patience. the peripherals paint a better pitcher for mr blanton. if blanton's peripherals go downhill like cahill's, i'll cut bait on him. if you aren't a peripheral guy, that's fine. but realize, you will get run over in the NFBC with that line of thinking (maybe that's part of the reason you haven't signed up).

and if you think i keep players longer than i should, i guess you aren't aware that i cut bait on lyon, gomez and milledge sooner than a lot of their owners.

buck up to the main event next year crazy. it will be fun to watch how well you handle everything.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:30 am

3 blocks from Wrigley. They'll learn next time.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:32 am

Q - Can I get a pic from Great American?

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:38 am

Originally posted by Dub:

Todd-

PS: please cheer me up about Kazmir- give me a stat I can hang my hat on and be hopeful. He has been dreadful.

PSS: Has anyone ever done a statistical study on pitching stats compared to which ump is calling the game. Some umps have a strike zone the size of a beebee and some the Grand Canyon. Kazmir is a mixed bag.

He has been EXTREMELY unlucky with respect to BABIP. It is about .350 in spite of a normal LD%. It is interesting to note that he is inducing way more GB than normal, but the Ray defense is good so that should not be an issue.

So the good news is the hit rate should regress.

However...

His K/9 is way down, his already high BB/9 is up. This is supported by a 2mph drop in velocity on both is fastball and slider. And curiously, he is throwing considerably more sliders than last season.

There is data that displays ball movement, but I am not adept at interpreting that. Sometimes a drop in velocity with more movement is advantageous, but the K and BB rates suggest this is not happening.

There is a chance all the "lucky" hits are altering his approach, so the thing to hang your hat on is that should correct and we can then tell if that was the issue.

But the concern is the drop in mph and declining peripherals are independent of the extra hits so even when that corrects, he will still not be the guy expected.

Plus the anecdotal analysis could be if he were really truly an upper-echelon guy, he would be able to overcome the lucky hits.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:41 am

you'll never find kazmir on my teams

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:46 am

poor guy's Windshield got "Blantoned" by a hail stone !

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:48 am

Inventory check for Blanton's start at Great American

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:50 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

you'll never find kazmir on my teams I might say this soon also.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:54 am

The Class A Charleston Blantons team logo

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:17 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

Inventory check for Blanton's start at Great American They are all really funny- but this is the best one IMHO

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:24 am

thanks Dub

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:41 am

Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

you'll never find kazmir on my teams I might say this soon also. [/QUOTE]One of the recent headlines down here was....."Kaz for Concern?" Umm, I'd say so. I remember quite a few people being somewhat high on Kazmir to start the season and I couldn't understand why. I know about the K's and the good numbers, but if you've ever watched the guy pitch, you would want to avoid. I was "all over him" 3 years ago and to a lesser extent 2 years ago, but not now, no way. Like I felt towards Baldelli, I'm hoping the Rays trade him before he loses value. They already received a nice return for V.Zambrano....why not benefit from it even more?

Even though he is young, I don't think he will ever develop the way people think. When it takes 30+ pitches to get out of the 1st inning, a player is going to have problems. He walks way to many batters and never displays control and worst of all, he lets everything bother him as he's pitching. Maybe if he had the forgetful/bulldog attitude, I might believe in him, but until then, he's only a "praying for the potential to be realized" player.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:03 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

you'll never find kazmir on my teams I might say this soon also. [/QUOTE]One of the recent headlines down here was....."Kaz for Concern?" Umm, I'd say so. I remember quite a few people being somewhat high on Kazmir to start the season and I couldn't understand why. I know about the K's and the good numbers, but if you've ever watched the guy pitch, you would want to avoid. I was "all over him" 3 years ago and to a lesser extent 2 years ago, but not now, no way. Like I felt towards Baldelli, I'm hoping the Rays trade him before he loses value. They already received a nice return for V.Zambrano....why not benefit from it even more?

Even though he is young, I don't think he will ever develop the way people think. When it takes 30+ pitches to get out of the 1st inning, a player is going to have problems. He walks way to many batters and never displays control and worst of all, he lets everything bother him as he's pitching. Maybe if he had the forgetful/bulldog attitude, I might believe in him, but until then, he's only a "praying for the potential to be realized" player. [/QUOTE]"When all is said and done: Scott Kazmir = Oliver Perez" -- King of Queens, 1/7/09

Not too far off!

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:06 am

That Joe Blanton kid, someday there'll be a 10 page thread about him-

King of Queens, 2005

You are Carnac good!

[ May 18, 2009, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:13 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

"When all is said and done: Scott Kazmir = Oliver Perez" -- King of Queens, 1/7/09

Not too far off!

I actually have both

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:25 am

Joe Blanton's doing a decent Saberhagen impression thus far with the Even/Odd Year Splits:

2004: 0-0 5.63 1.00 6K 8IP

2005: 12-12 3.53 1.22 116K 201IP

2006: 16-12 4.82 1.54 107K 194IP

2007: 14-10 3.95 1.22 140K 230IP

2008: 9-12 4.69 1.40 111K 198IP

If the trend holds, 2009 should be a productive year!

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:36 am

I liked Blanton enough to draft him and disliked him enough to drop him.

Top 10 list of things most people don't know about Joe Blanton:

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10. His Math teachers name was Mr. Zola

9. His favorite food is cereal. His bowl is modeled after Jethroe Bodine's.

8. His mom, Mable, is the lunch lady at his former school. Turkey gravy, rolls, and hair nets played a big part in his life.

7. Joe once threw a ball 120 mph, he was in a corvette.

6. Hamels and Myers call the line drive %, the Blanton %

5. More beer is sold at Blanton-started games than any other Phils pitcher.

4. During interleague play, Joe shows Ryan Howard where all the buffets are located in American League towns.

3. After Blanton left, they replaced the well-dented outfield fence in Oakland.

2. On a campaign to save his name, he offered Shawn Childs $500 to bid on him during the next faab period.

1. Joe thinks k/9 is a dog and bb is Barnacle Bill.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:40 am

Please Q, a picture of Mable, Joe's mom.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:49 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I liked Blanton enough to draft him and disliked him enough to drop him.

Top 10 list of things most people don't know about Joe Blanton:

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10. His Math teachers name was Mr. Zola

9. His favorite food is cereal. His bowl is modeled after Jethroe Bodine's.

8. His mom, Mable, is the lunch lady at his former school. Turkey gravy, rolls, and hair nets played a big part in his life.

7. Joe once threw a ball 120 mph, he was in a corvette.

6. Hamels and Myers call the line drive %, the Blanton %

5. More beer is sold at Blanton-started games than any other Phils pitcher.

4. During interleague play, Joe shows Ryan Howard where all the buffets are located in American League towns.

3. After Blanton left, they replaced the well-dented outfield fence in Oakland.

2. On a campaign to save his name, he offered Shawn Childs $500 to bid on him during the next faab period.

1. Joe thinks k/9 is a dog and bb is Barnacle Bill. I bid, but I didn't bite. He's on my bench this week. Maybe next week I'll go for the double starts.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:33 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I liked Blanton enough to draft him and disliked him enough to drop him.

Top 10 list of things most people don't know about Joe Blanton:

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10. His Math teachers name was Mr. ZolaJoe was a pretty good student, but he never quite got the grades he should have considering how hard he studied. If I recall, he transferred over from another school where he did a little better, but he just could never get the same grades.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:45 am

Blanton owners Blantoning their Blantons...probably by June

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon May 18, 2009 12:20 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

The funniest part about this Gekko, is that you are showing one of the bigger fantasy mistakes, you talk up your struggling player so much, you'll end up keeping him longer than you ever should. nah, i'm showing patience. the peripherals paint a better pitcher for mr blanton. if blanton's peripherals go downhill like cahill's, i'll cut bait on him. if you aren't a peripheral guy, that's fine. but realize, you will get run over in the NFBC with that line of thinking (maybe that's part of the reason you haven't signed up).

and if you think i keep players longer than i should, i guess you aren't aware that i cut bait on lyon, gomez and milledge sooner than a lot of their owners.

buck up to the main event next year crazy. it will be fun to watch how well you handle everything. [/QUOTE]I am a peripheral guy, a situation guy, a history guy, a patient guy, an impatient guy. I take everything into consideration and make my decisions.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:13 pm

Originally posted by Quahogs:

Blanton owners Blantoning their Blantons...probably by June Blantons! Prepare for glory!

HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!

There were over 150 Blanton owners in the NFBC (live events, online championship and satellites) as of early April.

Come June, there may be only one...