Ubaldo dropped??

Money · Post by **Money** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:51 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys... [/QUOTE]Wow, one voice of reason. All is good by the way. [/QUOTE]For whatever reason I'm portrayed as unsympathetic and a bad guy here. I'm ecstatic all is well. I have a child not doing so well but choose not (up until now) to go public with anything. I've come off the wrong way and for that I apologize. This baseball stuff is simply my diversion.

Go Tigers!!!!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:58 pm

We do believe that a simple technical error between human and new software can happen to any of you during the season, and Tom and I go out of our way to make sure that these situations are handled properly. A cut like this could happen to anyone. Again, other contests treat these situations differently and they have their reasons for doing it that way. We handle it more personally, but we're not dumb enough to let someone "game" the situation or be a wise guy with an illegal move. We just want the best teams to win each contest and in a national contest where so many leagues are competing with the same prizes but with different free agent pools, we try not to have one league gain a big advantage over another by a technical error. That's our reasoning for handling situations this way and hopefully folks understand now.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:01 pm

Originally posted by Fast Money:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys... [/QUOTE]Wow, one voice of reason. All is good by the way. [/QUOTE]For whatever reason I'm portrayed as unsympathetic and a bad guy here. I'm ecstatic all is well. I have a child not doing so well but choose not (up until now) to go public with anything. I've come off the wrong way and for that I apologize. This baseball stuff is simply my diversion.

Go Tigers!!!! [/QUOTE]I do not think you came off as a jerk here do not be so hard on yourself. I hate to hear that about your child.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:04 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

Although it was only a satellite, they allowed 3+ days before removing Adam Dunn from the FAAB pool after being dropped. The owner even got to use him for the weekend games.

No correspondence to other league owners, or a post to the message board. That was the most disappointing part as we spent alot of time trying to figure out an appropriate bid and still have enough left for the season. Michael, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the person who accidentally cut Dunn in your league and contacted me after Monday night was too busy ripping me on the Grady Sizemore decision for two straight weeks to realize what he did with his team. Apparently he was too busy ripping me on the radio to realize that he cut Dunn and then asked me to correct the human error. When we did, then you got to rip me. So I'm being blamed by the person who blamed me before for correcting what was an obvious mistake that he said our software did. Everyone gets thrown under the bus except the person who started the mess. [/QUOTE]Greg, after you guys did the change in the automatic drop, I would have said their mistake is their mistake. If Dunn would have been pulled from the pool, then that would have been fine. If that owner was that late in reacting, it is my believe it would be their loss. Sorry if it was perceived as ripping you, but 3+ days is excessive.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:09 pm

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

Although it was only a satellite, they allowed 3+ days before removing Adam Dunn from the FAAB pool after being dropped. The owner even got to use him for the weekend games.

No correspondence to other league owners, or a post to the message board. That was the most disappointing part as we spent alot of time trying to figure out an appropriate bid and still have enough left for the season. Michael, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the person who accidentally cut Dunn in your league and contacted me after Monday night was too busy ripping me on the Grady Sizemore decision for two straight weeks to realize what he did with his team. Apparently he was too busy ripping me on the radio to realize that he cut Dunn and then asked me to correct the human error. When we did, then you got to rip me. So I'm being blamed by the person who blamed me before for correcting what was an obvious mistake that he said our software did. Everyone gets thrown under the bus except the person who started the mess. [/QUOTE]Greg, after you guys did the change in the automatic drop, I would have said their mistake is their mistake. If Dunn would have been pulled from the pool, then that would have been fine. If that owner was that late in reacting, it is my believe it would be their loss. Sorry if it was perceived as ripping you, but 3+ days is excessive. [/QUOTE]Tell him that next time you listen to him on the podcast comparing me to Vince McMahon and then asking for my help. And no we didn't send a leaguewide email, nor do we for the other reversals. I did answer your email on Friday, but maybe a league email would have been correct here. I know Vince McMahon would have done that.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:14 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

Although it was only a satellite, they allowed 3+ days before removing Adam Dunn from the FAAB pool after being dropped. The owner even got to use him for the weekend games.

No correspondence to other league owners, or a post to the message board. That was the most disappointing part as we spent alot of time trying to figure out an appropriate bid and still have enough left for the season. Michael, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the person who accidentally cut Dunn in your league and contacted me after Monday night was too busy ripping me on the Grady Sizemore decision for two straight weeks to realize what he did with his team. Apparently he was too busy ripping me on the radio to realize that he cut Dunn and then asked me to correct the human error. When we did, then you got to rip me. So I'm being blamed by the person who blamed me before for correcting what was an obvious mistake that he said our software did. Everyone gets thrown under the bus except the person who started the mess. [/QUOTE]Greg, after you guys did the change in the automatic drop, I would have said their mistake is their mistake. If Dunn would have been pulled from the pool, then that would have been fine. If that owner was that late in reacting, it is my believe it would be their loss. Sorry if it was perceived as ripping you, but 3+ days is excessive. [/QUOTE]Tell him that next time you listen to him on the podcast comparing me to Vince McMahon and then asking for my help. And no we didn't send a leaguewide email, nor do we for the other reversals. I did answer your email on Friday, but maybe a league email would have been correct here. I know Vince McMahon would have done that.

[/QUOTE]Greg I took a poll and only 2 of the 7 people who listened to that show thought you were anything like Vince Mcmahon. The more that guy talks the better you look. He wanted an advantage, you did not give it, he cried like a school girl over and over. End of story.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:17 pm

He said Sizemore was going to turn his season around. Then later he admitted he had a terrible season. But it's always better to blame Greg for that.

Two out of seven think I rule like Vince McMahon?? I don't know if that's good or bad.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:18 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

Although it was only a satellite, they allowed 3+ days before removing Adam Dunn from the FAAB pool after being dropped. The owner even got to use him for the weekend games.

No correspondence to other league owners, or a post to the message board. That was the most disappointing part as we spent alot of time trying to figure out an appropriate bid and still have enough left for the season. Michael, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the person who accidentally cut Dunn in your league and contacted me after Monday night was too busy ripping me on the Grady Sizemore decision for two straight weeks to realize what he did with his team. Apparently he was too busy ripping me on the radio to realize that he cut Dunn and then asked me to correct the human error. When we did, then you got to rip me. So I'm being blamed by the person who blamed me before for correcting what was an obvious mistake that he said our software did. Everyone gets thrown under the bus except the person who started the mess. [/QUOTE]Greg, after you guys did the change in the automatic drop, I would have said their mistake is their mistake. If Dunn would have been pulled from the pool, then that would have been fine. If that owner was that late in reacting, it is my believe it would be their loss. Sorry if it was perceived as ripping you, but 3+ days is excessive. [/QUOTE]Tell him that next time you listen to him on the podcast comparing me to Vince McMahon and then asking for my help. And no we didn't send a leaguewide email, nor do we for the other reversals. I did answer your email on Friday, but maybe a league email would have been correct here. I know Vince McMahon would have done that.

[/QUOTE]I honestly don't even know who he is, and I don't do podcasts.

Issue is dead and I have moved on, but I didn't send an e-mail Friday, just Sunday night. No need to respond. Hope things improve at home Greg as that is more important.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

He said Sizemore was going to turn his season around. Then later he admitted he had a terrible season. But it's always better to blame Greg for that.

Two out of seven think I rule like Vince McMahon?? I don't know if that's good or bad. One was his mom the other was Lance Turbes.

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:55 pm

thanks for the update..and emails..

Btw..just cause i was unaware of Gregs situation at home doesnt mean I am unsympathetic...just unaware.

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:48 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

Greg,

if ubaldo is put back on this team's roster, can you let everyone know how much extra time this owner got to make a decision on who to drop from his team? i'm assuming you won't let him drop a player who had recent "bad" news come out about him from 8pm yesterday? would that be accurate? Project much?

damien p · Post by **damien p** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:16 pm

well i obviosly accidently dropped ubaldo. as far as who i drp i would want it to be bonderman,but i am fine with my bid not even being granted. I do not want to gain any advantage by this, nor am i trying to.

damien p · Post by **damien p** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:24 pm

brandon lyon was inserted into my lineup, because he was the winning bid for ubaldo, the reason for the dealay was i was out of town, and had my wife set my lineups, did not realize i did not have ubaldo untill tonight. I am not trying to get any advantage, and will accept a reasonable penalty such as sitting ubaldo this week, bid not being accepted or any other reasonable penalty

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:14 am

As I suspected, an honest mistake with real life events at the cause. No one trying to "pacheat" the system here.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:33 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

As I suspected, an honest mistake with real life events at the cause. No one trying to "pacheat" the system here. Nope. Damien is an NFBC vet and as soon as I saw he was the one who dropped Jimenez I was convinced it was an honest mistake. He contacted me last night and everything has been worked out. And as Greg has said, human error does happen in our events and we respond accordingly.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:39 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:

As I suspected, an honest mistake with real life events at the cause. No one trying to "pacheat" the system here. Nope. Damien is an NFBC vet and as soon as I saw he was the one who dropped Jimenez I was convinced it was an honest mistake. He contacted me last night and everything has been worked out. And as Greg has said, human error does happen in our events and we respond accordingly. [/QUOTE]Time to move on- good luck this season Damien.

Hobo Zeke · Post by **Hobo Zeke** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:29 am

Damien, Go back to Strat-O-Matic. It is much easier!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:37 am

Officially: Bonderman was cut and Jimenez has been put back on reserve for this week on Damian's team. Good luck all.

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:49 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Officially: Bonderman was cut and Jimenez has been put back on reserve for this week on Damian's team. Good luck all. It was the easy and right decision to make.

Cocktails and Dreams · Post by **Cocktails and Dreams** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:21 am

Good decision by Greg and Tom. Not surprising there.

Also not surprising that Gekko would be looking for ways to try and use questionable tactics to win. A simple accident does not create the need to even think like a snake for most.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:12 am

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

Good decision by Greg and Tom. Not surprising there.

Also not surprising that Gekko would be looking for ways to try and use questionable tactics to win. A simple accident does not create the need to even think like a snake for most. Chad - When did I say I was looking for ways to try and use questionable tactics? I DIDN'T! I said "wiseguys".

YOUR CONSISTENT "SHOOT FIRST AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER" MENTALITY IS SOMETHING THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S EYES. IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO TREAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, YOU CONSISTENTLY DO THAT. MAYBE THAT'S THE RUB WITH BEING A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER.

EITHER WAY, LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR GUNSLINGER POSTS MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH A GUY LIKE YOU. THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:44 am

For what it is worth, this level of personalized review is incredibly important. This isn't a free Yahoo league, and it is extremely easy to make this type of mistake.

Thanks to Greg for addressing, and hope is well with everyone's kids. At the end of the day, none of this matters and kids mean everything

Spyhunter

E · Post by E » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:29 pm

Nice job, guys. I think the correct decision was made. I doubt someone would ever drop a stud player so they can have a few extra hours to decide who to drop.

Greg--I hope your child is doing better.

Money · Post by **Money** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:36 pm

Originally posted by E:

Nice job, guys. I think the correct decision was made. I doubt someone would ever drop a stud player so they can have a few extra hours to decide who to drop.

Greg--I hope your child is doing better. I applaud the decision. But come on, what if this was a marginal player? Absolutely this guy should not lose this player but everyone is gong overboard to suck up to the NFBC. They're off doing doing Football, it's where they make their money. Time to pay attention to BASEBALL!!!! Please respond to the requests made in multiple threads.

Greg, no disrespect to your situation, I know your a class act, just want everyone to play on an even playing field field. I'd be happy to talk to you about it. I invested about 5 grand and feel you shouldn't be the only one responding to the message boards or the concerns of the field.

Take Care.

E · Post by E » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:33 pm

Originally posted by Fast Money:

quote:Originally posted by E:

Nice job, guys. I think the correct decision was made. I doubt someone would ever drop a stud player so they can have a few extra hours to decide who to drop.

Greg--I hope your child is doing better. I applaud the decision. But come on, what if this was a marginal player? Absolutely this guy should not lose this player but everyone is gong overboard to suck up to the NFBC. They're off doing doing Football, it's where they make their money. Time to pay attention to BASEBALL!!!! Please respond to the requests made in multiple threads.

Greg, no disrespect to your situation, I know your a class act, just want everyone to play on an even playing field field. I'd be happy to talk to you about it. I invested about 5 grand and feel you shouldn't be the only one responding to the message boards or the concerns of the field.

Take Care. [/QUOTE]If it was a marginal player involved, I don't think we would be having this discussion. I doubt that someone would call Greg telling them they meant to drop Volstad instead of Masterson.

As far as sucking up to the NFBC, I figure if people give them grief about things such as website problems and other legitimate issues, why can't someone acknowledge when a good decision was made as well?