All Time Draft Thread

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:36 pm

Ahhh.... these nights on the west coast are so terribly lonesome. One would think I'd use this time to catch up on current events, reorganize my closet, blow dry my hair or maybe even watch a few old episodes of Full House... but all I do is sit in front of my computer and press the Refresh button over and over and over again, knowing full well that everyone has already turned in for the evening.

I must say I've enjoyed this so far. Been fun posting a lot of my favorite baseball cards (still trying to figure out a way to fit Jerome Walton on the squad, by the way) and witnessing the friendly banter and watching Gekko enforce the pace with his "up, on deck, in the hole" messages. Always the highlight of my day. And definitely interested to hear everybody's thoughts on this when it's all said and done, what their strategy was coming in and how it all played out, where it all went awry, amok or askew. Maybe I'll even post my pre-draft top 25 and we can all have a good laugh (at me, or with me, it's no matter).

Should probably get some sleep... got to get up early and post my pick. Don't want to hold this draft up any more than I already have.

G'night to all of you not reading this...

Nevadaman · Post by **Nevadaman** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:54 pm

Brian, I feel your West Coast pain! The East-West thing is always a big problem with slow drafts. NFBC should think about having West Coast and East Coast slow drafts! By the way, thanks again for helping me out last weekend when I was out of town.

Asumijet · Post by **Asumijet** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:35 am

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:15 am

Maybe I'm being a little ambitious, but is it a stretch to think that maybe we could get this thing done today??

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:18 am

Originally posted by Likewhat17:

Maybe I'm being a little ambitious, but is it a stretch to think that maybe we could get this thing done today??

Yes

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:11 am

I remember this guy from my first AL Auction. Reminds me of how I used to get the stats/standings updates once a week... via fax... oh the torture!

Jeff Montgomery 1993: 7 Wins, 2.27 ERA, 1.008 WHIP, 66 Ks and 45 Saves in 87.1 Innings Pitched.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:15 am

A little bit of a monkey wrench, I will be starting jury duty on Monday.

Some birthday present! :rolleyes:

I don't know what that entails as yet.

I'll let you guys know sometime Monday, if this draft is still in progress

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:21 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

A little bit of a monkey wrench, I will be starting jury duty on Monday.

Some birthday present! :rolleyes:

I don't know what that entails as yet.

I'll let you guys know sometime Monday, if this draft is still in progress I've got to believe this will be done before Monday. I would think tomorrow is probably reasonable, but would prefer to get through it today!

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:32 am

Originally posted by Nevadaman:

Brian, I feel your West Coast pain! The East-West thing is always a big problem with slow drafts. NFBC should think about having West Coast and East Coast slow drafts! By the way, thanks again for helping me out last weekend when I was out of town. Haha... you were checking the boards too! I love it!

Glad to help out last weekend and certainly good to chat with you for a few minutes, although looking at the standings I'm starting to wonder if there should have been more static on the line. "I'm sorry... you're saying Maris 1960, right?"

JohnP · Post by **JohnP** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:36 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

A little bit of a monkey wrench, I will be starting jury duty on Monday.

Some birthday present! :rolleyes:

I don't know what that entails as yet.

I'll let you guys know sometime Monday, if this draft is still in progress Court Reporter: "All rise, the Honorable Judge Judy Bescher will be presiding"

Doughboys: "Your Honor, you must be related to Bob Bescher who in 1911 had 106 runs, 81 stolen bases and 1 home run. He is the one that should have been called Judy!"

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:58 am

Originally posted by JohnP:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

A little bit of a monkey wrench, I will be starting jury duty on Monday.

Some birthday present! :rolleyes:

I don't know what that entails as yet.

I'll let you guys know sometime Monday, if this draft is still in progress Court Reporter: "All rise, the Honorable Judge Judy Bescher will be presiding"

Doughboys: "Your Honor, you must be related to Bob Bescher who in 1911 had 106 runs, 81 stolen bases and 1 home run. He is the one that should have been called Judy!" [/QUOTE]

We bought a house in 1990. The mortgage gal's name was Diane Hornsby.

I had to ask if she was related to Rogers.

She looked at me all excited and said, "No, but I am related to Bruce Hornsby, he's the guy that had the big hit, 'The way it is', exciting isn't it?"

When she saw the look on my face she said, "You don't like Bruce Hornsby?"

I said, "He's ok, he just never hit .424, that's all."

Fastest mortgage signing process ever.

Suburban Strugglers · Post by **Suburban Strugglers** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:06 am

I need to finish off this position because 20 picks from now when I draft again there will be nothing left at all:

2009 Victor Martinez

.303 AVG / 23 HR / 88 R / 108 RBI / 1 Steal

CATCHER

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:13 am

Since we are in the catcher run………………………Ted Simmons

Ted was drafted right out of high school in the 1st round of the 1967 amateur draft by the St. Louis Cardinals. He made his debut one year later on Sept 21, 1968.

In his first game, Ted started behind the plate and hit 7th against Claude Osteen and the LA Dodgers in Dodger Stadium. In his first AB he struck out looking. He got his first major league hit three innings later with a single to right. He finished his first game 1 for 3 with a walk.

Simmons played in 2 games in ’68 and 5 more in 1969, it wasn’t until May 30 of 1970 when he became the full time catcher of the Cardinals. To start the 1970 season, the Cardinals had Dick Allen at third and Joe Torre behind the plate, but with poor production from the first base spot and with the trade of Phil Gagliano; the Cardinals moved Allen to first, Torre to third and brought up Simmons to catch. He would be the Cardinals starting catcher for the next 10 years.

Ted hit 248 home runs, that puts him 10th on the list of players that played the catcher position. His first homer was 6/7/70 against Roberto Rodriguez. His last one was 7/2/88 against Bryn Smith in Montreal.

The team he hit the most homers off was the Cubs (23), and the pitcher he tagged the most was Steve Carlton (7). I guess having caught Carlton for a couple of seasons helped to know what he threw.

Ted is 2nd

on the RBI list for catchers with 1389, he trails only Yogi Berra.

Ted is 2nd

on the hits list for catchers with 2472, he trails only Ivan Rodriguez. The 2472 hits is 83rd all-time for all hitters.

He is 9th in cumulative Wins Above Replacement (WAR) for catchers.

He was an 8 time Allstar and he received MVP votes in 7 different seasons.

He was on the HOF ballot for the first time in 1994 and got just 3.7% of the vote. Since that is less than the 5% needed to stay on the ballot, he was dropped off the next year. Last December under the HOF’s new veterans committee, Ted was on the short list covering the period 1973-Present. He did not receive enough votes to get in. Only Pat Gillick was inducted by the veterans committee. ( Joe Morgan

and the Vet Comm is an entire different subject that I could rant on about

. But I’ll wait to see what they do this December with the “Golden Era” ballot of ’47-’72. Santo, Minoso, Kaat, Tiant and others are on the list)

JohnP · Post by **JohnP** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:40 am

My memories of Ted Simmons as a Brewer.....seeing him caught on camera smoking several times and the fact that he always looked like he was stoned.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:49 am

I knew I wanted to go pitching here. However with needs in wins, saves, K's, and with WHIP such a competitive category, I didn't feel I could run with a standard wins based starter or saves based reliever for one of my last remaining pitching slots.

Surprisingly, there's only been seven pitchers in history with 9 or more wins AND saves, over 100 K's, and a WHIP under 1.00 in history. Only two of them are still available, each who benefits different specific categories a little more than the other. One provides significantly more saves and a better ERA, the other a couple more wins, many more K's, and most importantly in my choice here, a better WHIP. That's who I'll run with here. That pitcher.....

Tom Hughes 1915

W - 16

S - 9

ERA - 2.12

WHIP - 0.94

K - 171

IP - 280.1

By the way, from the looks of that swing was there any doubt he was a pitcher?

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:53 am

Looks like he burned his fingertip with that last joint...

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:57 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

A little bit of a monkey wrench, I will be starting jury duty on Monday.

Some birthday present! :rolleyes:

I don't know what that entails as yet.

I'll let you guys know sometime Monday, if this draft is still in progress Should it be necessary I will be glad to sub for Dan for the processing of the last round picks.....and now I am neither WC or EC as AZ has too much daylight to save.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:00 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

Since we are in the catcher run………………………Ted Simmons

Simmons was taken three or four pages ago (you guys stopped using pick numbers but Todd can put it here - I will send a PM to Navel Lint

PVH

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:02 am

:bag" ....sorry I misread it as a pick

(another reason picks should be numbered)

[ November 11, 2011, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Captain Hook ]

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:07 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

Since we are in the catcher run………………………Ted Simmons

Simmons was taken three or four pages ago (you guys stopped using pick numbers but Todd can put it here - I will send a PM to Navel Lint

PVH [/QUOTE]I know he was taken.

Thanks for keeping an eye out on us

When he was picked I made a comment about him being an under-rated catcher and that people should reevaluate his HOF credentials. I just wanted to follow that up with some info. I've also done this for several other players taken during the draft.

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:19 am

Pick #307 in the All-Time draft:

Davey Lopes 1979

BA- .265

R-109

HR- 28

RBI- 73

SB- 44

Todd is up!

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:32 am

John Axford 2011

update coming

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:38 am

fyi - i'll be out of the office for about 4 hours this afternoon

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:01 am

through 21.08

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:03 am

Just want to also say THANK YOU today (and EVERY DAY) to all who have served this country, past and present.