Utterly Ridiculous

JaserD · Post by **JaserD** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:05 am

The 6/7 SP turn becomes the 4/5 SP turn. If everyone adapts, basic construction strategies remain relatively intact. One could easily argue that the 6/7 ADP SP's are more appropriately valued at 4/5 (obviously AC 1 made this collective determination). I'd bet this happens again this weekend...only it won't be such a "surprise".

bustouts · Post by **bustouts** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:11 am

every draft is different........u never know whats going to happen. you just have to adapt and adjust your team as u go along.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:30 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

By the tone of this thread, you wanted one of the next group of number two starters.

i did not want any of the next grouping of pitchers unless I could get them 2 rounds later. i wanted some of the guys who went in between my 4/5 picks, namely Beckett or a couple others would have sufficed.

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:16 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

By the tone of this thread, you wanted one of the next group of number two starters.

i did not want any of the next grouping of pitchers unless I could get them 2 rounds later. i wanted some of the guys who went in between my 4/5 picks, namely Beckett or a couple others would have sufficed. [/QUOTE]Sounds like you will need to bump up some of those pitchers if you don't want to end up drafting the same team from AC in Citi this weekend.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:28 am

Originally posted by The Franchise:

Sounds like you will need to bump up some of those pitchers if you don't want to end up drafting the same team from AC in Citi this weekend. after seeing some other draft results the past couple days, i'm liking my pitching staff

No worries. I'm willing to bet an SP run of that magnitude will never happen again this year in any main event. I was unfortunate enough to be in the "outlier" league lst week. Utterly ridiculous.

Return of the Aces · Post by **Return of the Aces** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:32 am

How much are you willing to bet? I am in your league in NY, if it is a good enough wager we can make it happen.

Money · Post by **Money** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:48 am

Sounds like collusion.

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:52 am

Originally posted by Sebadiah23:

I think it was a case of 15 owners randomly being stuck in a draft with more than the normal amount of players with the same draft plan. And not many adjusted. Maybe because they were rushed into not adjusting from their planned strategy. But still, fact. The only constant is change. Deal with it guys.

-Craig K. Wow...You couldn't be more wrong. No need for me to elaborate.

[ March 23, 2010, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: RichV ]

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:58 am

Originally posted by Sebadiah23:

Anybody left in the league that hasn't whined yet? Again 100% wrong. I see a bunch of guys talking about the pace, and where they were surprised at what transpired during the course of the draft.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:15 am

Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

How much are you willing to bet? I am in your league in NY, if it is a good enough wager we can make it happen. show me another league that had 17SP or more gone by pick 5.6 and i'll take it easy on you the first week of faab

Return of the Aces · Post by **Return of the Aces** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:25 am

In 2004, my league drafted 15 starting pitchers by pick 5.5. It happens!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:53 am

Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

In 2004, my league drafted 15 starting pitchers by pick 5.5. It happens! 15 isn't quite 17!

Snord35 · Post by **Snord35** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:27 pm

Here I was thinking this run was all started by the Autographed Baseballs for highest drafted player. Checked the list and no SP's!

P.S. Those who were in CHI 4 last year didn't we have a crazy SP/RP run from rounds 5-7 something like 23 of the 30 picks were SP/RP. Can't see draft results anymore and don't have them on paper.

[ March 23, 2010, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Snord35 ]

Snord35 · Post by **Snord35** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:50 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snord35:

[QB] Here I was thinking this run was all started by the Autographed Baseballs for highest drafted player. Checked the list and no SP's!

P.S. Pitching runs happen, CHI4 last year had 14 pitchers go in a row 9-9 to 10-7 where 6 closers were drafted in a row and 7/8. Before all that from 6-13 to 9-1 20 of 37 picks were pitchers.

Return of the Aces · Post by **Return of the Aces** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:59 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

In 2004, my league drafted 15 starting pitchers by pick 5.5. It happens! 15 isn't quite 17! [/QUOTE]I did not include the 4 closers selected by 5.5 for a total of 19 pitchers. 2004 NY4

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:01 pm

Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

I did not include the 4 closers selected by 5.5 for a total of 19 pitchers. 2004 NY4 closers are a different role. 17SP by 5.6

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:02 pm

I don't think the problem necessarily was that there was a pitching run.....runs happen. I'm actually in the midst of a D run in my football Trendsetters draft.

I think the problem stemmed from the fact that the pitchers taken were being picked so far above their perceived ADP.

Hey, you know what, it wasn't really that big of a deal. It was surprising and a bit disconcerting, like any run can be. Still, you watch it happen, you adjust your game plan, and if you're good enough it presents an opportunity that if worked right can lead to great things.

My personal reaction was curiosity at what offensive players would drop to me now. Several did & I went offense for the balance of the single digit rounds. Others handled it differently. The season will play out and we'll see if any advantage was garnered and who played it right. Until then, this is all just an interesting sidebar.

I can't believe we get to do this all over again at Citifield in only four more days. The two weekend concept is a big success in this player's mind.

Glenn

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:05 pm

WOW, i've been totally out of touch for two days (work). i'm sure mark has missed me

..this is a hell-uv-a thread.

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:49 pm

Rich I could easily be wrong about the league's collective draft plans but how else do you explain reaching that far for SPs? One theory, admitted by GG, was that he was counting on getting 2 pitchers in the top 25, and multiply that by 10-12 owners and you have a bunch of people fighting over Thr same players. Sounds logical to me.

-Craig

Return of the Aces · Post by **Return of the Aces** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:23 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

I did not include the 4 closers selected by 5.5 for a total of 19 pitchers. 2004 NY4 closers are a different role. 17SP by 5.6 [/QUOTE]17 SP by 5.13. Not much difference. The point is that these kind of runs have been going on since the first year of the NFBC.

[ March 23, 2010, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: Return of the Aces ]

Return of the Aces · Post by **Return of the Aces** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:33 pm

Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Return of the Aces:

I did not include the 4 closers selected by 5.5 for a total of 19 pitchers. 2004 NY4 closers are a different role. 17SP by 5.6 [/QUOTE]17 SP by 5.13. Not much difference. Further, at some point this run may have beat your run in AC, 22 SP by 6.11 The point is that these kind of runs have been going on since the first year of the NFBC. [/QUOTE]

poopy tooth · Post by **poopy tooth** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:58 pm

....and as sheep, we followed. [/QB]By FAR the 5 words that will help the most, if you take a moment to think about it.

Well said Glenn.

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:07 pm

If we do this in my league at Citifield, we might be able to lock Shandler out of getting Joba on the 4/5 turn. He picks #3.

-Jed Lapkin lover

Paul Gromek · Post by **Paul Gromek** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:09 am

I was kinda shocked at how early pitching went again this year. I probably shouldn't be though.

I got caught with my pants down on the closer runs.

Ronald Esq · Post by **Ronald Esq** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:08 pm

I think we can award the DFL prize to this guy right now...

1. Clayton Kershaw

2. Mat Latos

3. Jose Valverde

4. Joakim Soria

5. Chris Young

6. Starlin Castro

7. Jesus Montero

8. Dexter Fowler

9. Brian Roberts

10. Colby Lewis

11. Alex Gordon

12. Brett Myers

13. Joe Blanton

14. Gavin Floyd

15. Mike Minor

16. Chris Coghlan

17. Jon Garland

18. Brennan Boesch

19. Grant Green

20. Shelby Miller

21. Tim Stauffer

22. Mitch Moreland

23. Hank Conger

24. Brent Morel

25. Bill Hall

26. Chris Davis

27. Jorge Cantu

28. Brad Penny

29. Jason Kipnis

30. Felix Pie

FAIL