Ubaldo dropped??

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:42 am

Originally posted by Fast Money:

High octane, you really don't think they'll allow him to be available do you? The guy appears to be stuck now, but the only fair thing is to exclude him from the FAAB.

Gekko, your point is well taken but your talk is earily in contrast to your day one this season. I must admit I enjoyed reading your point but you need to excuse yourself from that angle. Just sayin...... nah im more worried bout him being available to OTHERS In the league...there are about 5 more teams with more FAAB cash than I and god knows I wouldnt win him...but i defo want to know whats going to happen BEFORE tonights games...

From an email i got last night from Greg it sounded like he WOULDNT be made available...and if its not..all well and good...just a little anxious to see if he gets him back with no recourse

[ June 07, 2010, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: High Octane Baseball ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:54 am

Originally posted by Fast Money:

Gekko, your point is well taken but your talk is earily in contrast to your day one this season. I must admit I enjoyed reading your point but you need to excuse yourself from that angle. Just sayin...... all i'm saying is right or wrong wiseguys will exploit any holes they see.

let's see how this situation is handled.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:56 am

Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

nah im more worried bout him being available to OTHERS In the league...there are about 5 more teams with more FAAB cash than I and god knows I wouldnt win him...but i defo want to know whats going to happen BEFORE tonights games...

don't worry, ubaldo will NEVER be available in the free agent pool. greg will pull him for the rest of the year b4 that happens

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:56 am

Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

just a little anxious to see if he gets him back with no recourse wiseguys are watching as well...

Money · Post by **Money** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:00 pm

Why hasn't it been addressed by now?

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:00 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

nah im more worried bout him being available to OTHERS In the league...there are about 5 more teams with more FAAB cash than I and god knows I wouldnt win him...but i defo want to know whats going to happen BEFORE tonights games...

don't worry, ubaldo will NEVER be available in the free agent pool. greg will pull him for the rest of the year b4 that happens [/QUOTE]Ya it may only be June but this is a HUGE decision...

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:04 pm

Originally posted by Fast Money:

Why hasn't it been addressed by now? what happens (choose two):

1. owner gets ubaldo back and allowed to start him

2. owner gets ubaldo back and is forced to have him on bench because the lineups are locked

3. owner does not get ubaldo back and he is pulled from free agent pool

4. i picked up Padilla this week

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:06 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Why hasn't it been addressed by now? what happens (choose two):

1. owner gets ubaldo back and allowed to start him

2. owner gets ubaldo back and is forced to have him on bench because the lineups are locked

3. owner does not get ubaldo back and he is pulled from free agent pool

4. i picked up Padilla this week [/QUOTE]Personally im rooting for 3....lol

Money · Post by **Money** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:06 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Why hasn't it been addressed by now? what happens (choose two):

1. owner gets ubaldo back and allowed to start him

2. owner gets ubaldo back and is forced to have him on bench because the lineups are locked

3. owner does not get ubaldo back and he is pulled from free agent pool

4. i picked up Padilla this week [/QUOTE]That's your best post of the year. The obvious choices are 3&4!!!!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:07 pm

Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Why hasn't it been addressed by now? what happens (choose two):

1. owner gets ubaldo back and allowed to start him

2. owner gets ubaldo back and is forced to have him on bench because the lineups are locked

3. owner does not get ubaldo back and he is pulled from free agent pool

4. i picked up Padilla this week [/QUOTE]Personally im rooting for 3....lol [/QUOTE]can u imagine if #1 happens?

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:09 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Why hasn't it been addressed by now? what happens (choose two):

1. owner gets ubaldo back and allowed to start him

2. owner gets ubaldo back and is forced to have him on bench because the lineups are locked

3. owner does not get ubaldo back and he is pulled from free agent pool

4. i picked up Padilla this week [/QUOTE]Personally im rooting for 3....lol [/QUOTE]can u imagine if #1 happens?

[/QUOTE]Ill flip the hell out...thats for damn sure

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:12 pm

Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys...

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:17 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys... [/QUOTE]No idea...not sure how i was supposed to know that..

Did get some emails from Greg and Ubaldo will be more than likely returned to the owner with him being moved to reserve for this week.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:41 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys... [/QUOTE]maybe so, but how would anyone know this. from what i heard he was making football posts on the football boards this afternoon.

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Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:41 pm

Although it was only a satellite, they allowed 3+ days before removing Adam Dunn from the FAAB pool after being dropped. The owner even got to use him for the weekend games.

No correspondence to other league owners, or a post to the message board. That was the most disappointing part as we spent alot of time trying to figure out an appropriate bid and still have enough left for the season.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:43 pm

ya, i'm not a fan of the "oh i made a mistake and dropped the wrong player" excuse. too much room for wiseguys to take advantage of the situation IMO

Money · Post by **Money** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:52 pm

Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys... [/QUOTE]No idea...not sure how i was supposed to know that..

Did get some emails from Greg and Ubaldo will be more than likely returned to the owner with him being moved to reserve for this week. [/QUOTE]Chest, please don't equate this to Greg's situation, no one sympathizes with his situation more than me ( I will not go into it). The NFBC should not rely on one individual at all times. There is a lot of money at stake.

The situation is silly at this point and the lack of response is even worse. The guy should simply lose the player and Ubaldo should not be in the pool, That's if everything is fair and equal. I'm absolutely sure others have mistakenly dropped players they didn't intend to, just not the caliber of this one.

Dangerous precedence on the horizon.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:24 pm

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

Well said Spartacus. I was in agreement that Cabrera should be allowed back on his team. Common sense needs to be taken into account sometimes. Especially with that less than perfect software over there. Happened several times in football also. Guys, we are not allowing a new precedent in the NFBC. There have been other human mistakes made on cutting players that we have reversed when it was obvious over the last seven years. Heck, as most folks know a few years ago Steve Smith of the Panthers was cut in the NFFC when an owner meant to cut Steve Smith of the Giants. We reversed that because everyone knew which Steve Smith he meant to cut. In another contest, the same thing happened and they would not allow the "do-over." People run contests differently.

We do it because we want each league in a national contest to be won or lost and played out with the top stars without this technical glitch or human error or whatever you want to call it being the difference maker. This is a new software for all of our players and some folks have struggled with the cuts and alerted us. If it's an obvious, obvious error and we are alerted quickly by the owner we do step in and make the right call. Cutting Ubaldo Jimenez -- who is having the greatest start to a season in almost a century -- is an obvious human error. Most would certainly understand that.

The owner shouldn't be rewarded with Jimenez in his lineup this week and he certainly won't be allowed in the FAAB pool even if it wasn't a human error. But again, this is not the first time we've corrected a human error and I'm sure it won't be the last.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:25 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

Greg,

if ubaldo is put back on this team's roster, can you let everyone know how much extra time this owner got to make a decision on who to drop from his team? i'm assuming you won't let him drop a player who had recent "bad" news come out about him from 8pm yesterday? would that be accurate? Ah, I wasn't born yesterday. Agree.

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:25 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

Well said Spartacus. I was in agreement that Cabrera should be allowed back on his team. Common sense needs to be taken into account sometimes. Especially with that less than perfect software over there. Happened several times in football also. Guys, we are not allowing a new precedent in the NFBC. There have been other human mistakes made on cutting players that we have reversed when it was obvious over the last seven years. Heck, as most folks know a few years ago Steve Smith of the Panthers was cut in the NFFC when an owner meant to cut Steve Smith of the Giants. We reversed that because everyone knew which Steve Smith he meant to cut. In another contest, the same thing happened and they would not allow the "do-over." People run contests differently.

We do it because we want each league in a national contest to be won or lost and played out with the top stars without this technical glitch or human error or whatever you want to call it being the difference maker. This is a new software for all of our players and some folks have struggled with the cuts and alerted us. If it's an obvious, obvious error and we are alerted quickly by the owner we do step in and make the right call. Cutting Ubaldo Jimenez -- who is having the greatest start to a season in almost a century -- is an obvious human error. Most would certainly understand that.

The owner shouldn't be rewarded with Jimenez in his lineup this week and he certainly won't be allowed in the FAAB pool even if it wasn't a human error. But again, this is not the first time we've corrected a human error and I'm sure it won't be the last. [/QUOTE]Handled 100% as it should be. Thanks Greg

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:27 pm

Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Joe, I guess you don't know me very well through all the beers I served you in Las Vegas. My daughter gets the permanent cast tomorrow and she came first today. Sorry I wasn't here for you. But we're definitely on top of this situation. And we even juggled football drafts today.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:28 pm

Originally posted by AZSteamers:

A solution to the problem would be to create a "no drop list" to include the best players of the game, part of which Ubaldo would be right now. I was actually wondering why such list does not exist. The list wouldn't solve the problem completely, but at least address the most important part - mistakenly dropping a star player. Having nobody screw up on their drops would be easier for me.

But that never happens.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:39 pm

Originally posted by High Octane Baseball:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

High octane, you really don't think they'll allow him to be available do you? The guy appears to be stuck now, but the only fair thing is to exclude him from the FAAB.

Gekko, your point is well taken but your talk is earily in contrast to your day one this season. I must admit I enjoyed reading your point but you need to excuse yourself from that angle. Just sayin...... nah im more worried bout him being available to OTHERS In the league...there are about 5 more teams with more FAAB cash than I and god knows I wouldnt win him...but i defo want to know whats going to happen BEFORE tonights games...

From an email i got last night from Greg it sounded like he WOULDNT be made available...and if its not..all well and good...just a little anxious to see if he gets him back with no recourse [/QUOTE]A player like this would never be allowed in a free agent pool, in case anyone wonders.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:44 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Fast Money:

Very strange that this isn't settled by now with one game completed and a slew of them to start soon. Leaves one to assume they're letting it ride, a decision on the free agent pool could come later this week. Football issues may be taking priority. Or Greg might be a little busy with a child who just had surgery. Come on guys... [/QUOTE]Wow, one voice of reason. All is good by the way.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:47 pm

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

Although it was only a satellite, they allowed 3+ days before removing Adam Dunn from the FAAB pool after being dropped. The owner even got to use him for the weekend games.

No correspondence to other league owners, or a post to the message board. That was the most disappointing part as we spent alot of time trying to figure out an appropriate bid and still have enough left for the season. Michael, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the person who accidentally cut Dunn in your league and contacted me after Monday night was too busy ripping me on the Grady Sizemore decision for two straight weeks to realize what he did with his team. Apparently he was too busy ripping me on the radio to realize that he cut Dunn and then asked me to correct the human error. When we did, then you got to rip me. So I'm being blamed by the person who blamed me before for correcting what was an obvious mistake that he said our software did. Everyone gets thrown under the bus except the person who started the mess.