NFBC Magazine II Draft Results

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:54 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

One more thought if I am torn between 2 guys and I already own one in the mag or champs league I will go the other one to diversify risk. I am sure others do too. do more research to differentiate [/QUOTE]Thanks dad- [/QUOTE]np

JEagle · Post by **JEagle** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:01 pm

I didn't hold back..my name is going in the mag and I play this game for a lot more then just $$$$...I strongly believe if you play this game only for money then you may as well just make ur entry check out to me...

thanks

Windy City Hustler · Post by **Windy City Hustler** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:28 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

Take these picks with a grain of salt, there is no way Mark or anyone else will tip their hand before the main event. I do not think folks held too much back, if any. After all, this draft was going in the magazine with your name on it and this is a prideful bunch! [/QUOTE]For 100 Grand, they'll hold back. [/QUOTE]Windy - knowning that people wouldn't think that I'd make my real picks in a mag draft, do u think I could have used that information to my advantage on draft night? [/QUOTE]GG, on the off chance that 1 out of 14 players would think that these are your true sleepers, it's to your advantage to keep them guessing.

Windy City Hustler · Post by **Windy City Hustler** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:31 pm

Originally posted by JEagle:

I didn't hold back..my name is going in the mag and I play this game for a lot more then just $$$$...I strongly believe if you play this game only for money then you may as well just make ur entry check out to me...

thanks Eagle, are you telling me that you'd expose one of your best sleepers in a mock draft and risk losing an edge for the main event?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:33 pm

Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by JEagle:

I didn't hold back..my name is going in the mag and I play this game for a lot more then just $$$$...I strongly believe if you play this game only for money then you may as well just make ur entry check out to me...

thanks Eagle, are you telling me that you'd expose one of your best sleepers in a mock draft and risk losing an edge for the main event? [/QUOTE]Windy - do you know that it is NOT a mock draft?

Windy City Hustler · Post by **Windy City Hustler** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:37 pm

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by JEagle:

I didn't hold back..my name is going in the mag and I play this game for a lot more then just $$$$...I strongly believe if you play this game only for money then you may as well just make ur entry check out to me...

thanks Eagle, are you telling me that you'd expose one of your best sleepers in a mock draft and risk losing an edge for the main event? [/QUOTE]Windy - do you know that it is NOT a mock draft? [/QUOTE]My bad, what was the buy-in?

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:49 pm

Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by JEagle:

I didn't hold back..my name is going in the mag and I play this game for a lot more then just $$$$...I strongly believe if you play this game only for money then you may as well just make ur entry check out to me...

thanks Eagle, are you telling me that you'd expose one of your best sleepers in a mock draft and risk losing an edge for the main event? [/QUOTE]Windy - do you know that it is NOT a mock draft? [/QUOTE]My bad, what was the buy-in? [/QUOTE]

The same as a mock draft.

Lunatic · Post by **Lunatic** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:31 pm

exposing your best sleeper? Tell me, how many damn sleepers do you have that the rest of us don't know about; "sleeper" is a relative term. Personally, I don't give a damn where someone like Gekko drafts a player. I am my own person, confident in my own game. Like it has been said, these mock drafts are great for ME to practice my strategy, not to see what someone else's strategy is, because that don't me squat in a mock. This game is not rocket science and everyone has their own plan. If someone really likes a player and I see them draft them, I don't go, "Gee, I better move them up because so and so likes them."

There will be 390 players in the Main Event; it comes down to drafting the team YOU want.

Again, I like Braun at 11 if that is where I am drafting (as of 2/2); some of my friends have said no way I would take him at 11; these guys are good players; do I change my mind? Hell no I don't. I go with my convictions.

Listening to ideas can be harmful to your draft. When I say that, I mean on what players to draft.

Talking about the importance of having goals a nd what numbers to shoot for? Everyone should have that locked in their strategy.

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:34 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

I'd say Pena or Granderson was your best pick.. good luck to ya baby grand is better in a league with daily roster changes as he does not get 4abs when a lefty starts.

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:42 am

Originally posted by robotur:

quote:Originally posted by mother:

Greg, most of the chatter is over at the post GG started in Fantasy/MLB talk. However, I'll throw out some here:

Troy Glaus gets traded to a team with a worse offense and a much more difficult HR park, and yet he jumps 80+ spots since the first mag draft? Is the grass in STL that soft? Agreed Troy Glaus was a terrible pick, all indicators point to a drop in overall projections since the trade.

Below is the rest of my team, any comments are appreciated.

C Ronny Paulino PIT R17 P10 Comment

C Josh Bard SD R28 P6 Comment

1B Ryan Howard PHI R1 P10 Comment

1B Aubrey Huff BAL R19 P10 Comment

1B Dmitri Young WAS R25 P10 Comment

2B Placido Polanco DET R11 P10 Comment

SS Jhonny Peralta CLE R12 P6 Comment

SS Brendan Harris MIN R22 P6 Comment

3B Troy Glaus STL R10 P6 Comment

3B Akinori Iwamura TB R21 P10 Comment

OF Torii Hunter ANA R4 P6 Comment

OF Jeff Francoeur ATL R7 P10 Comment

OF Willy Taveras COL R8 P6 Comment

OF Kosuke Fukudome CHC R13 P10 Comment

OF Garret Anderson ANA R15 P10 Comment

OF Gary Matthews Jr. ANA R16 P6 Comment

OF Joey Gathright KC R23 P10 Comment

OF Carlos Quentin CHW R26 P6 Comment

DH David Ortiz BOS R2 P6 Comment

SP Erik Bedard BAL R3 P10 Comment

SP Carlos Zambrano CHC R6 P6 Comment

SP Tim Lincecum SF R9 P10 Comment

SP Jason Bergmann WAS R18 P6 Comment

SP Randy Wolf SD R20 P6 Comment

SP Jake Westbrook CLE R24 P6 Comment

SP Jeff Suppan MIL R27 P10 Comment

SP Adam Miller CLE R29 P10 Comment

SP Garrett Olson BAL R30 P6 Comment

RP J.J. Putz SEA R5 P10 Comment

RP Todd Jones DET R14 P6 Comment [/QUOTE]Dags: How come nobody gave you any lovin'? I am really surprised that you like Howard in the first round.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:51 am

Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by JEagle:

I didn't hold back..my name is going in the mag and I play this game for a lot more then just $$$$...I strongly believe if you play this game only for money then you may as well just make ur entry check out to me...

thanks Eagle, are you telling me that you'd expose one of your best sleepers in a mock draft and risk losing an edge for the main event? [/QUOTE]Windy - do you know that it is NOT a mock draft? [/QUOTE]My bad, what was the buy-in? [/QUOTE]Just like poker, it is not the buy-in, it is the reward in the end that separate the sheep from the goats.

But your point is taken. I did not display some of my best sleepers, but mainly because others got to them first (I guess my sleepers are too sleepy).

But Chest and others have said it better. Most of these guys rarely draft the same way in subsequent events. For the purposes of determining an ADP, the Mag I and Mag II drafts do provide more insight than a "standard", half teams on "Auto" mock.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:46 am

Glaus is awful high , i would think round 14 to 16 is about right.Iwamura seem's like a steal going in the 21st round.My last draft he went in the 14th round.I like Bergman as some upside pick but the 18 round is a little high.Ryan Howard going 10 is fine be me, if he can get that bavg up to 300 he will be a top 5 pick in 2009. just some opinion's.

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:10 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Glaus is awful high , i would think round 14 to 16 is about right.Iwamura seem's like a steal going in the 21st round.My last draft he went in the 14th round.I like Bergman as some upside pick but the 18 round is a little high.Ryan Howard going 10 is fine be me, if he can get that bavg up to 300 he will be a top 5 pick in 2009. just some opinion's. Eddie: Nice eval for my boy!! He lives and dies with every Philly game and even has a pic of Ryan hanging over his bed. The little lady is not happy with his choice of art work, though.

JEagle · Post by **JEagle** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:09 am

I just draft the best possible team I can...that's how I do..if someone wants to use my advice then so be it

Windy City Hustler · Post by **Windy City Hustler** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:42 am

Originally posted by JEagle:

I just draft the best possible team I can...that's how I do..if someone wants to use my advice then so be it That kind of honesty is so refreshing.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:48 am

Originally posted by JEagle:

I just draft the best possible team I can...that's how I do..if someone wants to use my advice then so be it me too

Windy City Hustler · Post by **Windy City Hustler** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:58 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by JEagle:

I just draft the best possible team I can...that's how I do..if someone wants to use my advice then so be it me too [/QUOTE]Gekko, here's what you said on a different thread regarding sleepers -

"you didn't think i was going to give you a sleeper like victorino was last year [Roll Eyes]

everyone needs to find their own in that respect."

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm

Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by JEagle:

I just draft the best possible team I can...that's how I do..if someone wants to use my advice then so be it me too [/QUOTE]Gekko, here's what you said on a different thread regarding sleepers -

"you didn't think i was going to give you a sleeper like victorino was last year [Roll Eyes]

everyone needs to find their own in that respect." [/QUOTE]i meant it in regards to "if someone wants to use my advice then so be it "

Sheep · Post by **Sheep** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:57 am

For example: This draft was way too early to know (or have a good idea) of the Twins leadoff hitter (a possible sleeper pick). Besides I still had a huge amount of work to do before I am ready for the Main. Choosing between Pedro and Billingly can make all the difference. All that being said I didn't draft a team (leaving sleepers on the table) to lose. As Gordon pointed out to me last year - I am not one of the "top players" and my sleepers didn't mean much to many (any) of you. I will say that I drafted differently here in Mag II then I would in the Main, a I expect to have more than four hitters after eight rounds. I am only looking to beat 14 teams in the Mag league, whereas I am hoping to finish ahead of 389 in the Main.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:46 am

I've added rounds 15-18 to the first thread. Enjoy all.

mother · Post by **mother** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:34 pm

Hey, Greg, could you wrap things up by posting rounds 19-23, please! Thanks!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:37 pm

Originally posted by mother:

Hey, Greg, could you wrap things up by posting rounds 19-23, please! Thanks! Yeah, I knew it was time for that. I'll do that tomorrow or Monday.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:07 am

Okay, all 23 rounds are updated on the first thread. Enjoy the results, which will also be published with comments in the May issue of Fantasy Sports Magazine. That issue will be mailed out to all NFBC members before the end of the month. Thanks again to the participants in this draft and good luck to all in the chance for the $500 first prize.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:26 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Okay, all 23 rounds are updated on the first thread. Enjoy the results, which will also be published with comments in the May issue of Fantasy Sports Magazine. That issue will be mailed out to all NFBC members before the end of the month. Thanks again to the participants in this draft and good luck to all in the chance for the $500 first prize. Greg,

I still haven't received my first set of mags (I did get the first Fantasy Sports but not Rotowire or Fanball).

On my team page it says that I paid for them. Any chance something just got mixed up, or should I put my mailman in the crosshairs again?

It is getting kind of close to my satellite and Gekko told me if I don't get a chance to read the mags, I have no shot!

JohnP · Post by **JohnP** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:47 am

Some interesting notes...

- 13 of the 15 teams went with at least 5 bats in the first 7 rounds

- 2 teams went to round 8 with no SP

- 8 teams went to round 8 with no RP

- team 3 in trouble with SP (Elbowbar + Schilling)