2008 mock draft

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:20 am

Griffey

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:40 am

Todd Helton

Mike Cameron

back 2 you Eli

[ October 16, 2007, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:22 am

Having picked Pujols so early, I knew I would not pick a second 1B for some time, so I have been hanging out and wondering when Helton would go. His ADP from last year had him at the round 5/6 turn, so this could be a real nice value pick here. He may not put up the HR numbers he once did, but as long as his back holds up, he his gold pretty much everywhere else you would expect a 1B to be gold. Nice pick.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:28 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Having picked Pujols so early, I knew I would not pick a second 1B for some time, so I have been hanging out and wondering when Helton would go. His ADP from last year had him at the round 5/6 turn, so this could be a real nice value pick here. He may not put up the HR numbers he once did, but as long as his back holds up, he his gold pretty much everywhere else you would expect a 1B to be gold. Nice pick. Obviously I agree b/c I picked him. Simple math Helton buys me Mike Cameron's batting avg-

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:40 am

Cameron and Dunn on the same team is flirting with batting average disaster.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:43 am

It was worthy of comment because 1B, to me, is not all that deep this year. I was surprised that Helton lasted this long.

Hindsight in drafts is always 20/20 and I am not sure I would have passed on Pujols at #4 anyway, but if you had the majic great crystal ball to know that a Helton would be there at 8/9, maybe you go with a David Wright or the like in the first instead of Albert.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:44 am

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

Cameron and Dunn on the same team is flirting with batting average disaster. Yes it is- here is my thought. I have a power hitter who hits for avg Manny, a catcher who hits for avg Victor, Helton and most importantly you can pick up avg at 2b which I have open after the turn. It almost makes for certain that you have to employ the high avg hitting 2nd catcher who seldomly plays in round 30 too. Still might not be enough but it is a mock.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:54 am

A mock is a good opportunity to see how your roster would look.

But to me, it looks like with the other guys you have you could have been on your way to 13+ in BA, maybe even absorbing 1 BA-challenged hitter. But with the 2 guys of that ilk you may be looking middle of the pack.

Just my constructive criticism.

Sheep · Post by **Sheep** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:14 am

I believed that throwing BA and finishing top 10% in other 9, was a good plan and I finishing 299 out of 300 with it.

I didn't come close to top half in the other nine.

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headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:32 am

i guess i don't understand the debate on helton cameron pick or the albert and helton debate. helton and cameron were both undervalued at that point by all 3 free measuring services i can look at- stats being one. second- just add up the at bats and hits and divide. i think helton and cameron make a nice match. cameron is a 20-20 guy and if he leaves san diego ( white sox) anywhere is better. on pulhos- i guess so what- if you love the value- but i agree on waiting till next pick- but i wouldn't just keep passing a guy that i love because i already have a 1b. maybe i am missing something here. btw- harang is a better pick now that dusty is the manager- should get 300 innings and 300 k's.

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:00 am

Trevor Hoffman

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:37 pm

Loney

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:45 pm

Kelvim Escobar

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:46 pm

Originally posted by headhunters:

i guess i don't understand the debate on helton cameron pick or the albert and helton debate. helton and cameron were both undervalued at that point by all 3 free measuring services i can look at- stats being one. second- just add up the at bats and hits and divide. i think helton and cameron make a nice match. cameron is a 20-20 guy and if he leaves san diego ( white sox) anywhere is better. on pulhos- i guess so what- if you love the value- but i agree on waiting till next pick- but i wouldn't just keep passing a guy that i love because i already have a 1b. maybe i am missing something here. btw- harang is a better pick now that dusty is the manager- should get 300 innings and 300 k's. No Albert/Helton debate. Just an observation that Helton fell far enough to be a real value.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:20 pm

McCann, C, Atl.

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:35 pm

9.6 - Phil Hughes, NYY

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:01 pm

hold on McCann went in the third round- when God Loves you did not pick a Devil Ray.

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:11 pm

9.7 Chad Cordero (RSN)

PS Had to pick now since I wont have pc access until tomorrow night. If DOUGHBOYS wants Cordero i will pick someone else. I didn't want to hold this up.

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Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:28 pm

I'm going to bed now...and I'll wait 'til tomorrow to make my pick so maybe Dan can rectify that McCann pick. 'Night fellas!!

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:21 pm

Wow, sorry, I only looked from the 6th round down. I'll go with Carlos Delgado, 1b, NYM

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:53 pm

At 9.08, Kettleers take F. Liriano (P) Minnesota Twins

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:04 pm

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Wow, sorry, I only looked from the 6th round down. I'll go with Carlos Delgado, 1b, NYM dan making a callout!!! i like it

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:57 pm

Prior rounds are on Page 20:

8.01 J Vasquez (Headhunters)

8.02 T Lincecum (BudFox)

8.03 J Maine (Vander)

8.04 M Rivera (Sheep)

8.05 J Shields (God Loves You)

8.06 R Halladay (Stevieland)

8.07 F Hernandez (KJ Duke)

8.08 J Posada (Kettleers)

8.09 M Cain (Red Sox Nation)

8.10 AJ Burnett(Sluggo)

8.11 D Matsuzaka(Doughboys)

8.12 C Patterson (Edwards Kings)

8.13 F Carmona (Spyhunter/Dickie V)

8.14 K Griffey(Eli Grimmett)

8.15 T Helton(Chest Rockwell)

9.01 M Cameron (Chester Rockwell)

9.02 T Hoffman (Eli Grimmett)

9.03 J Loney (Spyhunter/Dickie V)

9.04 K Escobar (Edward Kings)

9.05 C Delgado (Doughboys)

9.06 P Hughes (Sluggo)

9.07 C Cordero (Red Sox Nation)

9.08 F Liriano (Kettleers)

9.09 (KJ Duke)

9.10 (Stevieland)

9.11 (God Loves You)

9.12 (Sheep)

9.13 (Vander)

9.14 (BudFox)

9.15 (headhunters)

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KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:23 am

9.09 Saltalamacchia

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:35 am

9.10 Joba Chamberlain

His value can move in many directions based on the Yankees off-season decisions, but similar to Papelbon last year, he'll be pitching significant injuries somewhere. Or he may retire to pursue his real dream of being an exterminator.