Las Vegas League 4

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:33 am

The Las Vegas main event will be held at the Flamingo Hotel & Casino on Saturday, March 17th starting at 10 a.m. PST. Please be on time as all drafts will start exactly at the top of the hour. Here is the draft order for Las Vegas League 4:

LAS VEGAS LEAGUE 4:

1. Billy McAleeer

2. Dan Kenyon

3. Gregg Janoff

4. Kyle Borth

5. Mark Yagan

6. Shane Bapp

7. Lance Turbes

8. Robert DeNofrio

9. Brian Wheeler

10. Bruce Lindell

11. Patrick Young

12. Scott Jenstad

13. Chris Schinker

14. Steve Pletkin

15. John Zaleski

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:01 pm

DOUGHBOYS, UFS, The Pletkin's (father and son)...should be fun!

~Lance

Wonder Boy · Post by **Wonder Boy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:44 pm

Can't wait!!!!!

Steve (& Alex) Pletkin

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:55 am

Can't wait to see you guys scramble for SP's round 4.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:48 pm

Well...nice meeting who I could during our draft!

Once the league is loaded...I can see who may have stole the show.

I hope some of us are in the hunt for the top score!

Can't wait for real stats to start!

~Lance

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:20 pm

That draft day goof makes my stomach hurt. Papelbon would have been a much better selection than Pineiro.

Ouch number one of many!

~Lance

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:10 am

Good luck everyone...

thanks for this gift. Hope it pans out...

#169 Stephen Drew (SS, Ari) 165.68 84 255

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:59 am

Originally posted by UFS:

Good luck everyone...

thanks for this gift. Hope it pans out...

#169 Stephen Drew (SS, Ari) 165.68 84 255 the other way to look at it is...if you don't win with a GIFT like that, you should think about hanging up the cleats. seriously.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:28 am

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:47 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. Even if he is the #14 shortstop, Drew is a LOT closer to #13 than #15 in value.

UFS, when did guys like Vizquel and Peralta go in your league?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:57 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. this coming from the guy who took rollins (a SS) with the 6 pick. you of all people should know the value of having a good shortstop.

there was a HUGE dropoff in talent after Drew. if you didn't get a SS on your team of drew's caliber or better, good luck trying to dig out from that hole.

drew could very easily pass cabrera in value this year.

[ March 23, 2007, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:54 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. Even if he is the #14 shortstop, Drew is a LOT closer to #13 than #15 in value.

UFS, when did guys like Vizquel and Peralta go in your league? [/QUOTE]17 15 Stephen Drew SS DIRT BAGS (me)

16 13 Jhonny Peralta SS Justawalkinthepark

12 10 Omar Vizquel SS CLUTCH O MATIC

8 7 Orlando Cabrera SS London Wifflers

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:57 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

Good luck everyone...

thanks for this gift. Hope it pans out...

#169 Stephen Drew (SS, Ari) 165.68 84 255 the other way to look at it is...if you don't win with a GIFT like that, you should think about hanging up the cleats. seriously. [/QUOTE]This is pretty lame. No one player has ever won a title.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:01 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

Good luck everyone...

thanks for this gift. Hope it pans out...

#169 Stephen Drew (SS, Ari) 165.68 84 255 the other way to look at it is...if you don't win with a GIFT like that, you should think about hanging up the cleats. seriously. [/QUOTE]This is pretty lame. No one player has ever won a title. [/QUOTE]with a head start like THAT, you are well on your way to winning money. i'm interested in knowing what other GIFTS you received. can you post your team?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:04 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

Good luck everyone...

thanks for this gift. Hope it pans out...

#169 Stephen Drew (SS, Ari) 165.68 84 255 the other way to look at it is...if you don't win with a GIFT like that, you should think about hanging up the cleats. seriously. [/QUOTE]This is pretty lame. No one player has ever won a title. [/QUOTE]with a head start like THAT, you are well on your way to winning money. i'm interested in knowing what other GIFTS you received. can you post your team? [/QUOTE]No, I'm too arrogant to post my team

I already did in the thread you started. PM me your team and I'll send mine again.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:47 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. Even if he is the #14 shortstop, Drew is a LOT closer to #13 than #15 in value.

UFS, when did guys like Vizquel and Peralta go in your league? [/QUOTE]17 15 Stephen Drew SS DIRT BAGS (me)

16 13 Jhonny Peralta SS Justawalkinthepark

12 10 Omar Vizquel SS CLUTCH O MATIC

8 7 Orlando Cabrera SS London Wifflers [/QUOTE]It's all about value:

Vizquel -- horrible

Drew -- excellent

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:55 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. Even if he is the #14 shortstop, Drew is a LOT closer to #13 than #15 in value.

UFS, when did guys like Vizquel and Peralta go in your league? [/QUOTE]17 15 Stephen Drew SS DIRT BAGS (me)

16 13 Jhonny Peralta SS Justawalkinthepark

12 10 Omar Vizquel SS CLUTCH O MATIC

8 7 Orlando Cabrera SS London Wifflers [/QUOTE]Zaleski be honest- you at least gave some thought to he is a Drew and he is sliding must be an injury report I have not seen.

I told you when I saw it- best value pick I have seen to date and that is still the case. I got him in the 12th to a moan or two. I think he went as high as the 10th.

To me besides being a top 10 or so guy right now at his position, he is also one of the only guys with a high ceiling at SS. Sure some great ones at the top but does anyone really think OCAB or Renteria has a 25% chance to perform like a top 75 player, Drew does. Nice job which brings me to another point. I love it when someone says you were lucky in a situation like that, maybe you were but 14 other guys had the chance to grab him in the 17th round hell not only 17th round but last pick of it.

[ March 23, 2007, 08:56 PM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:15 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Zaleski be honest- you at least gave some thought to he is a Drew and he is sliding must be an injury report I have not seen.

I love it when someone says you were lucky in a situation like that, maybe you were but 14 other guys had the chance to grab him in the 17th round hell not only 17th round but last pick of it. I didn't give any thought to that. The only thought I had was breakfast with Gene McCaffrey the day before and he was really high on him. He wound up taking him 8.1.

I would have taken him the swing before but I took Cantu 16.1 (no 2b yet) and G.Matthews 15.15, and I already had Rollins.

My draft was chasing saves big time.... that's why he slipped.

I was kinda stunned he lasted so long. I had no expectations of getting him after taking Rollins.

p.s. you still owe me a pm.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:28 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. Even if he is the #14 shortstop, Drew is a LOT closer to #13 than #15 in value.

UFS, when did guys like Vizquel and Peralta go in your league? [/QUOTE]17 15 Stephen Drew SS DIRT BAGS (me)

16 13 Jhonny Peralta SS Justawalkinthepark

12 10 Omar Vizquel SS CLUTCH O MATIC

8 7 Orlando Cabrera SS London Wifflers [/QUOTE]I thought you got him at #169 - end of 17th is #255, very nice pick that late.

[ March 23, 2007, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:30 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

I love it when someone says you were lucky in a situation like that, maybe you were but 14 other guys had the chance to grab him in the 17th round hell not only 17th round but last pick of it. I see the other side of it. How could anyone, UFS included, not take him in the 16th round. Weren't fireworks going off in your head when you saw him there in the 16th or 15th or 14th??? Makes you wonder...

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:35 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Stephen Drew, 14th SS taken ... after Renteria and O Cabrera, looks about right to me. this coming from the guy who took rollins (a SS) with the 6 pick. you of all people should know the value of having a good shortstop.

there was a HUGE dropoff in talent after Drew. if you didn't get a SS on your team of drew's caliber or better, good luck trying to dig out from that hole.

drew could very easily pass cabrera in value this year. [/QUOTE]Now that I see where he actually got him, that was a value pick. Unlikely he'll match Cabrera's value, but I would take him ahead of Peralta and Vizquel. Just don't expect a 300+ avg from Drew this year.

[ March 23, 2007, 09:36 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:40 pm

I got Stephen Drew at pick 11.14 in Sunday's Ultimate draft and was ECSTATIC.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:56 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

I love it when someone says you were lucky in a situation like that, maybe you were but 14 other guys had the chance to grab him in the 17th round hell not only 17th round but last pick of it. I see the other side of it. How could anyone, UFS included, not take him in the 16th round. Weren't fireworks going off in your head when you saw him there in the 16th or 15th or 14th??? Makes you wonder... [/QUOTE]Well... I had no 2B (by design), and my only pick taken in front of me all draft was O.Hudson at 15.11.

So I took Cantu at 16.1, pick 226. His adp is 191.4.

And I took Matthews at 15.15 as my 4th OF. I didn't want a weak 4th OF'er and I'm not in the Debby Downer Matthews camp. He's having solid camp and the way the Angels run, he could steal 20.

I was almost as surprised Cantu fell as far as he did as I was with Drew.

Now, I can see why Cantu fell after last year, so I was glad to get Polanco as a backup rd 24.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:16 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

I got Stephen Drew at pick 11.14 in Sunday's Ultimate draft and was ECSTATIC. Solid, but not a lot of pwr or speed, I think I have him rated lower than most @ 285-18-5. What kind of numbers are you looking for out of him KOQ/UFS ?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:42 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

I got Stephen Drew at pick 11.14 in Sunday's Ultimate draft and was ECSTATIC. Solid, but not a lot of pwr or speed, I think I have him rated lower than most @ 285-18-5. What kind of numbers are you looking for out of him KOQ/UFS ? [/QUOTE]I had him at .288-17-7