2008 mock draft

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:20 am

Adrian Beltre

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:47 am

juggernaut, why don't you take over for Spy - he missed last round and still hasnt checked in ... he's up now, so whichever of you show up first

[ October 13, 2007, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:06 pm

Originally posted by headhunters:

on the weak league subject- i was in chicago 3 with inebriated. he finished second overall- we finished second as a league. everyone played till the end. good league- good teams. the tough free agent bidding may have cost him the championship- really no freebies I wonder why he never tried to make up wins?

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:41 pm

i agree cc- i don't know if he was outbid- but he had $ and i thought he could have chanced a few bad outings.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:51 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

juggernaut, why don't you take over for Spy - he missed last round and still hasnt checked in ... he's up now, so whichever of you show up first Berkshire or Dicky V take over Spy please- second straight year he has done this.

Dickie V · Post by **Dickie V** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:11 pm

B Jenks

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:19 pm

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

So, like so many aspects of fantasy baseball, it depends on luck...which owners you get in your league (and I assure you a vast, vast majority are very active to the bitter end) makes up, IMHO, a small part of it compared to injuries, et al. I would take nothing at all away from those three owners in NY5. They obviously did a superlative job. the only thing that stopped me this past year was myself. i'm hoping to correct that b4 draft day 2008

Atlas · Post by **Atlas** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:29 pm

Are you able to elaborate without compromising strategy?

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:39 pm

Congradulations Gordon. 5th place is certainly no disgrace. Pretty fantastic as a matter of fact. It's also very refreshing to hear someone take respocibility and not blame it whatever or whoever. I didn't finish first or fifth because I didn't take good enough players. I too will try to rectify that before next year. You said you'd win it this year and you came pretty close. I will admit I was rooting for Terry or Dan though. I sat next to Terry and feel I kind of know Dan, through these boards anyway. BTW in our league we had 6 haves including myself. 4 teams with over 100 points. I finished 5th with 97. 3 or 4 fair teams and some have nots including at least 1 team that seems to have quit mid season. It does help the rest of us when he doesn't spend his $'s. He finished with over $700 unspent on a poor team.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:47 pm

Originally posted by Atlas:

Are you able to elaborate without compromising strategy? hehehehe (good question)...fantasy baseball is the ultimate strategy game. it blows fantasy football out of the water.

there's an on-going debate of the amount of skill/luck there is in winning the big prize in fantasy baseball or fantasy football. from personal experience (came in 5th in the nfbc; came in 1st in the nffc), here's my breakdowns:

baseball: 80% skill; 20% luck

football: 30% skill; 70% luck

luck can take the form of injuries, what other owners are in your league, etc...

[ October 13, 2007, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:48 pm

Originally posted by Atlas:

Are you able to elaborate without compromising strategy? btw, i know i didn't answer your question.

[ October 13, 2007, 07:48 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:51 pm

Originally posted by Vander:

Congradulations Gordon. 5th place is certainly no disgrace. Pretty fantastic as a matter of fact. It's also very refreshing to hear someone take respocibility and not blame it whatever or whoever. I didn't finish first or fifth because I didn't take good enough players. I too will try to rectify that before next year. You said you'd win it this year and you came pretty close. I will admit I was rooting for Terry or Dan though. I sat next to Terry and feel I kind of know Dan, through these boards anyway. BTW in our league we had 6 haves including myself. 4 teams with over 100 points. I finished 5th with 97. 3 or 4 fair teams and some have nots including at least 1 team that seems to have quit mid season. It does help the rest of us when he doesn't spend his $'s. He finished with over $700 unspent on a poor team. 97 league pts is very respectable!! good job!

i don't care about the injuries, i don't care about the bad luck. i can only focus on improving my "blueprint" and executing it better. that's the only control any owner has.

i use to post BS threads about how one of my players let me down for getting hurt, but not anymore. it comes with the territory and one has to realize it or else it will undermine everything you worked for.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:02 pm

gordo- agree on the luck- skill breakdown. it is why it is tougher to grow baseball. people know it is harder- they won't admit it though.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:06 pm

Originally posted by headhunters:

gordo- agree on the luck- skill breakdown. it is why it is tougher to grow baseball. people know it is harder- they won't admit it though. good pt!!! greg needs to dumb this down to grow it

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:10 pm

Dickie...Thanks for picking up the slack.

Kings take A. Rowan

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:11 pm

And Go Dawgs!

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:46 pm

6.01 D Uggla (headhunters)

6.02 J Damon (BudFox)

6.03 P Konerko (Vander)

6.04 C Young SP SD(Sheep)

6.05 S Kazmir (GLU)

6.06 V Wells (Joe Sambito)

6.07 J Valverde (KJ Duke)

6.08 R Weeks (Kettleers)

6.09 B Hawpe(Red Sox Nation)

6.10 G Sheffield(Sluggo)

6.11 M Young (Doughboys)

6.12 A Jones (Edwards Kings)

6.13 Renteria (MIA Spy)

6.14 Zimmerman (Eli Grimmett)

6.15 Adrian Gonzalez (Chest "No Sleep" Rockwell)

7.01 Harang (Chest "Honey it's your turn" Rockwell)

7.02 Beltre (Eli Grimmett)

7.03 Jenks (Dickie/AWOL Spy)

7.04 Rowand (Edwards Kings)

7.05 (Doughboys)

7.06 (Sluggo)

7.07 (Red Sox Nation)

7.08 (Kettleers)

7.09 (KJ Duke)

7.10 (Stevieland)

7.11 (God Loves You)

7.12 (Sheep)

7.13 (Vander)

7.14 (BudFox)

7.15 (headhunters)

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Atlas · Post by **Atlas** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:07 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Atlas:

Are you able to elaborate without compromising strategy? btw, i know i didn't answer your question. [/QUOTE]Have only been doing this a few years and tend to agree with your breakdown.

With baseball, you have a week to evaluate a performance and make decisions. You also know, barring injury, that 5 or 6 times per week, each player is going to get 3-4 at bats per game and each starter will get those 1-2 trips to the mound.

In FB, you have a mere 13 games to make performance decisions. You're not privy to game plans so you don't know what receivers will or won't be targeted or whether the running game will be abandoned for a passing attack, etc.

And when a game gets out of hand, one way or another, all bets are off.

It really boils down, I think, to a smaller sample size from which to try to make logical decisions. And I've even told my co-manager(son)

that even if we make the correct, logical decision, it may not have been the RIGHT one.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:17 pm

Since you start 10 players in football (as opposed to 23), injuries have more of an impact, same goes for a single player who goes ape-shitt (like tomlinson last year)...more impact in football

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:07 pm

H Matsui, of, NYY

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:20 pm

Doughboys, mcoeio3eiq-0riajaKC;L is all I have to say lol

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:30 pm

7.6 - Jeff Francoeur

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:25 am

While waiting for the "Nation" to make his pick, I thought I'd offer a little explanation of my last 2 picks, Chipper Jones Rd. 5 and Rickie Weeks Rd. 6. I was actually targeting Pitching in round 5, and with 3 picks to go Beckett and Sabathia still on the board as my targets I thought I'd have a good shot, but alas both were taken in front of me. I also had considered Saito as he was so good to me this year, but for purposes of this draft I decided against a Closer at that particular juncture. So, it came down to either a SS or a 3B. There were more Shortstops I can live with on the board with a diverse skillset than 3B's and after looking at Chipper's 1.000+ OPS both in 2006 and 2007 and having watched a number of Braves' games on TBS, when he plays it still is at a near Superstar caliber. EK is correct when he notes that it is up to me to Back Chipper up with another 3B further along in the draft to protect against the seemingly inevitable Chipper DL stint(s).

As for the Weeks pick, with still alot of Starting Pitching on the board I decided to go to my Middle Infield and he was the best Power/Speed Combo available of the MI's especially after C. Guillen and Kinsler were taken at the end of Rd. 5. I also figure him to have more upside if he can increase his contact rate as his BABIP is like .333,.395,.333 for the past 3 years. Also, I like my first 5 picks with respect to BA so using my 6th round pick on Weeks seemed reasonable for my particular needs at that point.

Yes, I'm taking a Pitcher with my next pick. Chest, you told me last off-season to try not to regress after my First year in the NFBC and I'm happy to report No regression in fact, some modest improvement. This year I will do a much more thorough job of Pitching evaluation in the off-season as I did a simply abyssmal job with my pitching staff this year. But, 2 satellites and a Main Event all over 80 Pts., so I've become the Master of Mediocrity. Looking forward to next year already!!

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:19 am

7.7 Jason Bay (RSN)

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:03 am

At 7.08, Kettleers take John Smoltz (SP) Atlanta Braves