Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by kgrady:
There is a new set of 'Joba Rules' in play for 2008. He will not come close to 200 innings this season. The Yankees have set a cap on his innings at 150 (or 140, don't recall which). He will begin the season in the bullpen; the plan is to shift him to the starting rotation in mid-season.
Kevin No offense, but what is your point? These are guys who will be in single digit rounds in 2009. [/QUOTE]My point is that Chamberlain is still being treated with kid gloves. He therefore will not be stretched out over an entire season of starting. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it does draw into question how he'll do when the training wheels finally do come off.
This may be moot point though. I suspect Joba remains in the bullpen all season, because in the short-term that's where he's more urgently needed. In that case, he's a set-up man with little chance for saves as long as Mariano is around.
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Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
Yesterday, Gordon started a thread about who will be the biggest flops of the year or the overstuffed pigs.
Today, how about the Hungry Wolves. The players that went consistently in double digit rounds this year, who will be drafted in the single digits next year.
Yunel Escobar- The ball jumps off his bat, like a right handed Cano. Like Cano the power will be slow to come but a batting championship wouldn't surprise me.
Justin Upton- five tools and still a baby, this will be his growth year, next year get on the bandwagon
Aaron Hill- Will probably outperform Kendrick and Weeks in most categories this year. If not for the depth of the position, he'd be in single digits this year
Phil Hughes- Dynamite stuff on a good hitting team = wins and thats this year. Next year after refining the skills he will be close to the upper echelon of pitchers.
Connor Jackson- The average is a given and the power is coming. Rumored to be hitting third in a great lineup without sharing time, he'll be good this year, killer next.
Billy Butler- A lot like Connor Jackson only I think the power starts coming a year earlier. Again, average is a given.
Kevin Kouzmanoff- Different ballpark and he would be single digits this year. 25/100/.290 moves him to single digits anyway.
Joba Chamberlain- 200 innings of that nasty stuff?
No, I did not forget the current wonderdarlings Cueto and Milledge, just do not think they'll progress as others do.
Who'd I forget? Anybody else have a list? Doughboys,
Great post...I'll add 5 more:
1. C Buchholz - he's as good as Hughes and will be a SP2 next year
2. R Soriano- a top 7 closer next year if healthy
3. M Jacobs- this might be a reach, but if he can hold his own, he will be drafted in rd 8-10 for his 30hrs, 100rbi, .278 avg.
4. Adam Jones- (bias pick), 22-10 player with lots of upside.
Yesterday, Gordon started a thread about who will be the biggest flops of the year or the overstuffed pigs.
Today, how about the Hungry Wolves. The players that went consistently in double digit rounds this year, who will be drafted in the single digits next year.
Yunel Escobar- The ball jumps off his bat, like a right handed Cano. Like Cano the power will be slow to come but a batting championship wouldn't surprise me.
Justin Upton- five tools and still a baby, this will be his growth year, next year get on the bandwagon
Aaron Hill- Will probably outperform Kendrick and Weeks in most categories this year. If not for the depth of the position, he'd be in single digits this year
Phil Hughes- Dynamite stuff on a good hitting team = wins and thats this year. Next year after refining the skills he will be close to the upper echelon of pitchers.
Connor Jackson- The average is a given and the power is coming. Rumored to be hitting third in a great lineup without sharing time, he'll be good this year, killer next.
Billy Butler- A lot like Connor Jackson only I think the power starts coming a year earlier. Again, average is a given.
Kevin Kouzmanoff- Different ballpark and he would be single digits this year. 25/100/.290 moves him to single digits anyway.
Joba Chamberlain- 200 innings of that nasty stuff?
No, I did not forget the current wonderdarlings Cueto and Milledge, just do not think they'll progress as others do.
Who'd I forget? Anybody else have a list? Doughboys,
Great post...I'll add 5 more:
1. C Buchholz - he's as good as Hughes and will be a SP2 next year
2. R Soriano- a top 7 closer next year if healthy
3. M Jacobs- this might be a reach, but if he can hold his own, he will be drafted in rd 8-10 for his 30hrs, 100rbi, .278 avg.
4. Adam Jones- (bias pick), 22-10 player with lots of upside.
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Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
Yesterday, Gordon started a thread about who will be the biggest flops of the year or the overstuffed pigs.
Today, how about the Hungry Wolves. The players that went consistently in double digit rounds this year, who will be drafted in the single digits next year.
Yunel Escobar- The ball jumps off his bat, like a right handed Cano. Like Cano the power will be slow to come but a batting championship wouldn't surprise me.
Justin Upton- five tools and still a baby, this will be his growth year, next year get on the bandwagon
Aaron Hill- Will probably outperform Kendrick and Weeks in most categories this year. If not for the depth of the position, he'd be in single digits this year
Phil Hughes- Dynamite stuff on a good hitting team = wins and thats this year. Next year after refining the skills he will be close to the upper echelon of pitchers.
Connor Jackson- The average is a given and the power is coming. Rumored to be hitting third in a great lineup without sharing time, he'll be good this year, killer next.
Billy Butler- A lot like Connor Jackson only I think the power starts coming a year earlier. Again, average is a given.
Kevin Kouzmanoff- Different ballpark and he would be single digits this year. 25/100/.290 moves him to single digits anyway.
Joba Chamberlain- 200 innings of that nasty stuff?
No, I did not forget the current wonderdarlings Cueto and Milledge, just do not think they'll progress as others do.
Who'd I forget? Anybody else have a list? Doughboys,
Great post...I'll add 5 more:
1. C Buchholz - he's as good as Hughes and will be a SP2 next year
2. R Soriano- a top 7 closer next year if healthy
3. M Jacobs- this might be a reach, but if he can hold his own vs LHPs, he will be drafted in rd 8-10 for his 30hrs, 100rbi, .278 avg.
4. Adam Jones- (bias pick), 22-10 player with lots of upside.
(okay make it 4 players instead of 5)
[ March 19, 2008, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: Hitless ]
Yesterday, Gordon started a thread about who will be the biggest flops of the year or the overstuffed pigs.
Today, how about the Hungry Wolves. The players that went consistently in double digit rounds this year, who will be drafted in the single digits next year.
Yunel Escobar- The ball jumps off his bat, like a right handed Cano. Like Cano the power will be slow to come but a batting championship wouldn't surprise me.
Justin Upton- five tools and still a baby, this will be his growth year, next year get on the bandwagon
Aaron Hill- Will probably outperform Kendrick and Weeks in most categories this year. If not for the depth of the position, he'd be in single digits this year
Phil Hughes- Dynamite stuff on a good hitting team = wins and thats this year. Next year after refining the skills he will be close to the upper echelon of pitchers.
Connor Jackson- The average is a given and the power is coming. Rumored to be hitting third in a great lineup without sharing time, he'll be good this year, killer next.
Billy Butler- A lot like Connor Jackson only I think the power starts coming a year earlier. Again, average is a given.
Kevin Kouzmanoff- Different ballpark and he would be single digits this year. 25/100/.290 moves him to single digits anyway.
Joba Chamberlain- 200 innings of that nasty stuff?
No, I did not forget the current wonderdarlings Cueto and Milledge, just do not think they'll progress as others do.
Who'd I forget? Anybody else have a list? Doughboys,
Great post...I'll add 5 more:
1. C Buchholz - he's as good as Hughes and will be a SP2 next year
2. R Soriano- a top 7 closer next year if healthy
3. M Jacobs- this might be a reach, but if he can hold his own vs LHPs, he will be drafted in rd 8-10 for his 30hrs, 100rbi, .278 avg.
4. Adam Jones- (bias pick), 22-10 player with lots of upside.
(okay make it 4 players instead of 5)
[ March 19, 2008, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: Hitless ]
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I predict that a healthy Kuroda fails to K more than 125 this year.
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Originally posted by Andy Tu La Daddy:
I predict that a healthy Kuroda fails to K more than 125 this year. You could be right. I think his e.r.a. and whip will be acceptable with decent wins.
For the spot you can get him I think it's a good play.
I predict that a healthy Kuroda fails to K more than 125 this year. You could be right. I think his e.r.a. and whip will be acceptable with decent wins.
For the spot you can get him I think it's a good play.
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I agree that late he is an unknown but you know he won't win less than 10..he has been healthy in japan and has pitched like 45 complete games or something....
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Originally posted by RobG:
I have a hunch, but I see Nate McLouth being this year's version of Shane Victorino if given the playing time he deserves.
uh, i'd love to see that since i drafted mclouth, but he's on the pirates chief, not the phils.
I have a hunch, but I see Nate McLouth being this year's version of Shane Victorino if given the playing time he deserves.
uh, i'd love to see that since i drafted mclouth, but he's on the pirates chief, not the phils.
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Originally posted by rockitsauce:
quote:Originally posted by RobG:
I have a hunch, but I see Nate McLouth being this year's version of Shane Victorino if given the playing time he deserves.
uh, i'd love to see that since i drafted mclouth, but he's on the pirates chief, not the phils. [/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood his intent; he's saying McLouth could mimic Victorino's output and do so as an unheralded player who was drafted late teens/early 20s. Got it...chief?
quote:Originally posted by RobG:
I have a hunch, but I see Nate McLouth being this year's version of Shane Victorino if given the playing time he deserves.
uh, i'd love to see that since i drafted mclouth, but he's on the pirates chief, not the phils. [/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood his intent; he's saying McLouth could mimic Victorino's output and do so as an unheralded player who was drafted late teens/early 20s. Got it...chief?
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