Cueto gets ROCKED!!!!

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:29 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

[Ok, give me the name of the player who went after him that you would rather have today. Rickie Weeks

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:30 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

See, this is what I enjoy. Is $200 too much to bid on Mike Hampton? In 1999, no...in 2008 yes

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:32 am

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

[Ok, give me the name of the player who went after him that you would rather have today. Rickie Weeks

[/QUOTE]John, I forgot to check you computer...What did you have Mr. Weeks down for?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:41 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

There's no justifing lirano in the 8th. There is no "act". It was a mistake on my part. Sorry if u guys can't accept someone making a mistake and then taking responsibility for it. I know, it's a hard concept for most to understand. Have you clicked on confess24.com yet?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:44 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

[Ok, give me the name of the player who went after him that you would rather have today. Rickie Weeks

[/QUOTE]John, I forgot to check you computer...What did you have Mr. Weeks down for? [/QUOTE]near impossible to project. 3 years, never more than 409 ab's.

more interesting is what you have him down for...

Has to be 530AB+ to take him that high. If he gets them, it's a great pick. I use to love the guy, just can't take him any longer. He's a "Chipper"

We need to start a "Chipper" thread. Guys you would never take. Derek Lee is also on that list for me.

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:46 am

"chipper". I like that term. I have to admit when I take Chipper, I compliment him with another solid 3b. Last year it was Atkins, this year Gordon. The jury is still out on Gordon, but I feel comfortable with the coverage.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:49 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

[Ok, give me the name of the player who went after him that you would rather have today. Rickie Weeks

[/QUOTE]John, I forgot to check you computer...What did you have Mr. Weeks down for? [/QUOTE]These boards seem to have come down on Weeks lately, but I'm with you Shawn.

270,23/33,115/60 ... how does this look?

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:50 am

Ah...Derrek Lee...I owned him in 2004 and 2005. I wasn't interested the last two years. I don't expect big things maybe .290+ 30/100 7/8 steals.

I think Weeks will hit 20+ homeruns and steals 30+ bases. He should score over 100 runs. If he bats .270+, I won't be disappointed with the pick.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:51 am

Originally posted by UFS:

We need to start a "Chipper" thread. Guys you would never take. Derek Lee is also on that list for me. First Rickie Weeks, now Derrek Lee. Is there anyone on Mr. Childs' team that you actually like?

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:52 am

D-Lee late 3rd, Weeks late 5th, Chipper late 7th, I'll take all three.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:52 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

[Ok, give me the name of the player who went after him that you would rather have today. Rickie Weeks

[/QUOTE]John, I forgot to check you computer...What did you have Mr. Weeks down for? [/QUOTE]These boards seem to have come down on Weeks lately, but I'm with you Shawn.

270,23/33,115/60 ... how does this look? [/QUOTE]I agree!

270 days with wrist problem.

23/33 days active

115/60 BP rate of owners that do not have him

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:54 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

We need to start a "Chipper" thread. Guys you would never take. Derek Lee is also on that list for me. First Rickie Weeks, now Derrek Lee. Is there anyone on Mr. Childs' team that you actually like? [/QUOTE]D.Lee was a great pick by them in Rd 4. I was swearing big time.

I didn't write D.Lee because of the Super.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:55 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

D-Lee late 3rd, Weeks late 5th, Chipper late 7th, I'll take all three. Nail on the head here, KJD. Just about every player can be a good pick -- depending on where you select him.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:56 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

We need to start a "Chipper" thread. Guys you would never take. Derek Lee is also on that list for me. First Rickie Weeks, now Derrek Lee. Is there anyone on Mr. Childs' team that you actually like? [/QUOTE]It's not his team!!

He only owns 36.2785473% of it.

[ March 23, 2008, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: UFS ]

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:59 am

I own half of the Super team....I went in with a 1/3 of it with an option for half before the draft. I think I can buy 10% interest in all his satellite teams if I help manage them!!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:03 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

I own half of the Super team....I went in with a 1/3 of it with an option for half before the draft. I think I can buy 10% interest in all his satellite teams if I help manage them!! Shawn, which one of you actually made the picks for the Super Team?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:04 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

I own half of the Super team....I went in with a 1/3 of it with an option for half before the draft. I think I can buy 10% interest in all his satellite teams if I help manage them!! I thought the dishwasher was handling management duties

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:31 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

I own half of the Super team....I went in with a 1/3 of it with an option for half before the draft. I think I can buy 10% interest in all his satellite teams if I help manage them!! Shawn, which one of you actually made the picks for the Super Team? [/QUOTE]We both did, but I pushed for the no Judy entry. I had to sell him on a few picks. I have to give him credit for Bonds. He wanted him real bad in the 28th round. I look at him and said, "Ok, you can take Bonds...in the 29th round"...After I took Mussina a team after us mention Bonds, if looks could kill. Thomas was ready to go on the mat for him if he didn't make it back!

[ March 23, 2008, 02:35 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:34 am

John, The dishrags would want the all Spanish speaking team!!

[ March 23, 2008, 02:35 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:35 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

I own half of the Super team....I went in with a 1/3 of it with an option for half before the draft. I think I can buy 10% interest in all his satellite teams if I help manage them!! Shawn, which one of you actually made the picks for the Super Team? [/QUOTE]We both did, but I pushed for the no Judy entry. I had to sell him on a few picks. I have to give him credit for Bonds. He wanted him real bad in the 28th round. I look at him and said, "Ok, you can take Bonds...in the 29th round"...After I took Mussina a team after us mention Bonds, if looks could kill. Thomas was ready to go the mat for him if he didn't make it back! [/QUOTE]I really need to make it to Vegas one of these days...

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:38 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

John, The dishrags would want the all Spanish speaking team!! You're in trouble now. MB PC police can't be far behind

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:00 am

Sorry.. Machine operators!!

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:32 am

Totally unfair to Chipper to call Weeks a chipper. Chipper has way more at bats over the last three years, even being the older of the two, and the term seems to indicate that the player is actually GOOD when healthy. Weeks seems to be good more at his whim than whenever he plays. Has to be the only player taken in the first ten rounds that has hit under .240 in two of the last three years. And that's outside of the health issues. Really amazing to me that people are still willing to count on him.

Seems like doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:59 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Totally unfair to Chipper to call Weeks a chipper. Chipper has way more at bats over the last three years, even being the older of the two, and the term seems to indicate that the player is actually GOOD when healthy. Weeks seems to be good more at his whim than whenever he plays. Has to be the only player taken in the first ten rounds that has hit under .240 in two of the last three years. And that's outside of the health issues. Really amazing to me that people are still willing to count on him.

Seems like doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. No reason to think Weeks will hit anywhere near 240 this season. In his first season he hit 239 as a 22 yr-old callup which included a meager 211 on the road. At home he hit 270.

The next season he hit 279 before breaking his hand/wrist (I forget which). Last yr, not fully recovered, as is typical, he was horrible early on batting 232 through July. He rebounded to hit 273 from Aug-Sep. I have him at 270 this year, don't think its a stretch.

[ March 23, 2008, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:04 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Totally unfair to Chipper to call Weeks a chipper. Chipper has way more at bats over the last three years, even being the older of the two, and the term seems to indicate that the player is actually GOOD when healthy. Weeks seems to be good more at his whim than whenever he plays. Has to be the only player taken in the first ten rounds that has hit under .240 in two of the last three years. And that's outside of the health issues. Really amazing to me that people are still willing to count on him.

Seems like doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Definition of insanity.

There are plenty of solid players players in round 5 where Weeks is usually taken. It's funny that pitching in general has been labeled "unpredictable" and thus given less value during drafts IMO, but Week's highly unpredictable outcome is given more credibility.

I think risk/reward plays are to be taken later in the draft. 5th round is too early to be messing around. Too many very good players there who can be counted on. Weeks certainly is intriguing, but haven't we said that the last 3 years? It's entirely possible his September is being overrated (see Loney)

.249 career average spanning 316 games. Small dose. 1 strikeout per game on average. If he plays a full season (big IF), he's sure to strikeout close to 150 times with an average in the .250's. Sure, he could hit 25 homers and steal 30 bases, but in the likelihood he hits .255, where does that place his value? 8th or 9th round at best? And again, that's IF he's healthy the whole year which he hasn't proven yet.

I personally, would much rather take Weeks in the 3rd round after a year in which he proves himself, than take him in the 5th trying to predict a breakout. Just too risky for me.