Pre-Mag Mock Draftl

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:11 am

V-Mart?,we'll see EK.. I have a suspicion,a not too distant 3. As for Andruw Jones, I was hoping that the BA and SB would have him slipping into the 4th round where I would have gladly scooped him up. You're from Georgia I believe, are the Braves going to lock him up or are they going to transition to the McCann/Francoeur generation and allow AJ to walk.

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:33 am

Who's up for playing this draft out? $100 entry - we'll pay the money to Greg. We'll only draft our starters, 14 offense and 9 pitchers. Winner take all. Greg can keep his share, maybe 75% of the pot can go for the prize money. Let's see which one of us has the best draft - no moves, no free agents pickups, you draft your team and see who wins.

Also this will help get a little publicity for the NFBC, if a newbie can checkout a site and see a draft going on then they might get interested.

So who's in? Also, we have to make sure Greg thinks its a good idea

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:59 am

This is a *mock* draft. I for one have no interest in playing for money--or even in playing it out. For one thing, I didn't go in thinking it was going to count or about the rules (I'd never take Thome, for instance, if I knew I couldn't make moves). I approach a mock draft quite differently than a real one. I try to pick the best player at a given time without thinking too much about the overall construction of my team and I avoid picking my sleepers, if for no other reason than I want to see whare they go. Furthermore, at this point in the offseason I am not prepared to compete seriously. It's more a matter of not wanting my record to be affected by a draft I am ill-prepared for than being cheap. I am proud of never being on the wrong end of final league standings, and I don't feel confident in pulling that off in a league in November where I can't make moves.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:46 am

Originally posted by Kimo:

Who's up for playing this draft out? $100 entry - we'll pay the money to Greg. We'll only draft our starters, 14 offense and 9 pitchers. Winner take all. Greg can keep his share, maybe 75% of the pot can go for the prize money. Let's see which one of us has the best draft - no moves, no free agents pickups, you draft your team and see who wins.

Also this will help get a little publicity for the NFBC, if a newbie can checkout a site and see a draft going on then they might get interested.

So who's in? Also, we have to make sure Greg thinks its a good idea Absolutely not, as far as I'm concerned.

Brian has pointed out the differences between a mock and a real draft and the mindset of each. But to further complicate things this is an open mock draft with Managers taking over for other Managers when they can't get online for 12-24 hours. Truly a logistics nightmare.

This is strictly just for fun and a good way to kill some time, constructively, during the off season.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:54 am

Round 1

1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols

2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez

3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes

4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano

5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard

6 JEagle-Carl Crawford

7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana

8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero

9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley

10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran

11 Raw Talent-David Wright

12 BEF-Bobby Abreu

13 Kimo-David Ortiz

14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki

15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez

Round 2

1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera

2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner

3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera

4 BEF?-Lance Berkman

5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter

6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee

7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee

8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins

9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore

10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday

11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay

12 Dak-Michael Young

13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells

14 Vander-Johnny Damon

15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye

Round 3

1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez

2 Vander-Justin Morneau

3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko

4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez

5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal

6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins

7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones

8 bjoak-Jim Thome

9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer

10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins

11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann

12 BEF-Juan Pierre

13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada

14 Mr. Dalrae-

15 Don Mathis-

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:18 am

What about some sort of compromise on the play it out thing- one I completely agree with bjoak you put no moves on after a pick like Thome and he would go 2 rounds later.

10 rounds on here for the public and then we move it in to the satellites for the last 20 picks in private at a later date? Obviously play by regular NFBC rules. You cannot tell me anyone has really tanked a pick yet to hide something? We could also take this thing to email after round 3? We could also start scratch from email with Dan Kenyon operating as commish or someone else essentially saying we draft one round every day?

I would enjoy playing against some diehards- I have played with bjoak, Dan, and spy before makes it a more enjoyable league.

I also understand Brian's point about level of preparation but 2 things there 1)we are all at that point 2) preparation comes much more in to play after round 10.

Thoughts on my idea?

[ November 11, 2006, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:35 am

I'd say leave it as is. I will not play out this league and I'd rather not have to quit the mock. I'm enjoing it when it goes.

In terms of preparation 1) I disagree. I am probably behind y'all cuz I've done zero and 2) I didn't say I'd lose; I'm just leaving much more to chance than I'm comfortable with.

I don't think it needs to be hidden either. I don't have a problem with this type of thing. Believe it or not, I am actually in favor of satellite picks being revealed for the edification of everyone; I just don't think the owners who made the picks should be revealed. In this format, it's fine.

Mr Dalrae · Post by **Mr Dalrae** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:53 am

RD#3 pick#14 I will take Torii Hunter.

Don Mathis · Post by **Don Mathis** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:13 am

Round 3--Pick 15 Gary Sheffield

Round 4---Pick 1 Chris Carpenter

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:46 am

Chest if you want to set something up, I'm fine with it. I think it s/b private though. 30 picks $100 winner take all. No moves, just the draft. Let's see if we can get 15 reliable people that want to play.

Mr Dalrae · Post by **Mr Dalrae** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:49 am

Round#4 Pick#2 I will take Joe Nathan.

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:23 am

Round 4: Brian Roberts

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:26 am

Originally posted by Vander:

Chest if you want to set something up, I'm fine with it. I think it s/b private though. 30 picks $100 winner take all. No moves, just the draft. Let's see if we can get 15 reliable people that want to play. i would be in for that but would want moves- i want to practice for main event drafts by doing something like that not trying to be difficult but I only want in with regular NFBC rules.

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:28 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

What about some sort of compromise on the play it out thing- one I completely agree with bjoak you put no moves on after a pick like Thome and he would go 2 rounds later.

10 rounds on here for the public and then we move it in to the satellites for the last 20 picks in private at a later date? Obviously play by regular NFBC rules. You cannot tell me anyone has really tanked a pick yet to hide something? We could also take this thing to email after round 3? We could also start scratch from email with Dan Kenyon operating as commish or someone else essentially saying we draft one round every day?

I would enjoy playing against some diehards- I have played with bjoak, Dan, and spy before makes it a more enjoyable league.

I also understand Brian's point about level of preparation but 2 things there 1)we are all at that point 2) preparation comes much more in to play after round 10.

Thoughts on my idea? All right now. We got some owners that might want to put some money down. I guess I got excited. I saw some of the owners picks and thought it was going to be easy money.

$100, what's $100. I walk outside the door and drop $100. Gas, food, kids, wives, girlfriends, but I'd be up for a little draft this off season. Maybe we can wait until this one is over and see who wants to put some money down for some fun. I have nothing to hide, I don't even mind if it is on the message board for the entire 23 rounds. I am sure that my draft in November will be a lot different than the one in March.

If you guys decide to do anything, let me know.

Kimo

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:41 am

I am at least interested. Maybe it could be run on Mock central like the sat. leagues. I would accept moves as it would be awful hard not too with injuries etc. I was just trying to make it easier on myself since I will again be in several leagues and it gets hard to make all the moves come Sunday. If you have several teams that's a lot of free agent searching you must do for faab. I also think the current guys drafting should get right of first refusal. If they don't want to participate then we'll find others.

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:55 am

Round 4--Carlos Delgado

Don Mathis · Post by **Don Mathis** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:31 am

I would be in for $100 or $200

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:26 pm

[ November 29, 2006, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:57 pm

Originally posted by Tradesman Kettleers:

V-Mart?,we'll see EK.. I have a suspicion,a not too distant 3. As for Andruw Jones, I was hoping that the BA and SB would have him slipping into the 4th round where I would have gladly scooped him up. You're from Georgia I believe, are the Braves going to lock him up or are they going to transition to the McCann/Francoeur generation and allow AJ to walk. In a good example of how baseball is not quite what it used to be (i.e. little "family" ownership, all corporate asset), the Braves are being sold by the aXXholes at Time-Warner (you know the guys who won't let Shuerholtz spend more than $80m on the team) to a cableco because the team increases the tax benefit to the participants. As an "asset" to TW, there is no way the Braves could afford Andruw. He says he will play with the Braves in '07 and veto any trade until he becomes a free agent after the '07 season. If the sale is complete, the new owners MIGHT loosen up the purse strings and try to hold on to Andruw. Sitting here in November, my guess is the Braves will be the beneficiary of his run for the big(ger) bucks, but it will be bye-bye Andruw after '07.

RawTalent · Post by **RawTalent** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:17 pm

Sorry for the wait guys...I just got home from work (I'll be off the next couple of days though).

My pick at 4-5 is Astros SP Roy Oswalt.

Perhaps the steal of the draft! RT

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:27 pm

Victor Martinez

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:26 pm

At 4-7, Carlos Guillen (SS) Detroit

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:06 pm

4-8 Francisco Rodriguez

Round 1

1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols

2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez

3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes

4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano

5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard

6 JEagle-Carl Crawford

7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana

8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero

9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley

10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran

11 Raw Talent-David Wright

12 BEF-Bobby Abreu

13 Kimo-David Ortiz

14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki

15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez

Round 2

1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera

2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner

3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera

4 BEF?-Lance Berkman

5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter

6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee

7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee

8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins

9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore

10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday

11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay

12 Dak-Michael Young

13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells

14 Vander-Johnny Damon

15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye

Round 3

1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez

2 Vander-Justin Morneau

3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko

4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez

5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal

6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins

7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones

8 bjoak-Jim Thome

9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer

10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins

11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann

12 BEF-Juan Pierre

13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada

14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter

15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield

Round 4

1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter

2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan

3 Kimo-Brian Roberts

4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado

5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt

6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez

7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen

8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez

9 Spyhunter-

10 God Loves You-

11 Chest Rockwell-

12 Dak-

13 Edward Kings-

14 Vander-

15 Doughboys-

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:21 am

Paging Spyhunter....

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:02 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Paging Spyhunter.... Dan it has been 24 hours make the pick for him, needs speed and he has a bit of a crush on a certain SS still available that would be my suggestion.

[ November 13, 2006, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]