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Spy is usually reliable. I would like to see swifter movement also, but everybody has stuff to do and can't always be checking in all the time. Let's give him at least till later this afternoon.
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Sorry Spy, its been well over 24 hours. If you get on before God Loves You, feel free to change the pick. Until then, Felipe Lopez.
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[ November 14, 2006, 06:50 AM: Message edited by: GOD Loves You ]
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4:11 Mariano Rivera
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Edwards Kings in on a business trip and sent predrafts for rounds 4-5 over to me so he wouldn't hold up the show. He wisely anticipated the closer run.
4-13 JJ Putz
Round 1
1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols
2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez
3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes
4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano
5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard
6 JEagle-Carl Crawford
7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana
8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley
10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran
11 Raw Talent-David Wright
12 BEF-Bobby Abreu
13 Kimo-David Ortiz
14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki
15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez
Round 2
1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera
2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner
3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera
4 BEF?-Lance Berkman
5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter
6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee
8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins
9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore
10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday
11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay
12 Dak-Michael Young
13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells
14 Vander-Johnny Damon
15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye
Round 3
1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez
2 Vander-Justin Morneau
3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko
4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez
5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal
6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins
7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones
8 bjoak-Jim Thome
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer
10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins
11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann
12 BEF-Juan Pierre
13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada
14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter
15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield
Round 4
1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter
2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan
3 Kimo-Brian Roberts
4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado
5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt
6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen
8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez
9 Spyhunter-Felipe Lopez
10 God Loves You-BJ Ryan
11 Chest Rockwell-Mariano Rivera
12 Dak-Billy Wagner
13 Edwards Kings-JJ Putz
14 Vander-
15 Doughboys-
4-13 JJ Putz
Round 1
1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols
2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez
3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes
4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano
5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard
6 JEagle-Carl Crawford
7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana
8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley
10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran
11 Raw Talent-David Wright
12 BEF-Bobby Abreu
13 Kimo-David Ortiz
14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki
15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez
Round 2
1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera
2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner
3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera
4 BEF?-Lance Berkman
5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter
6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee
8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins
9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore
10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday
11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay
12 Dak-Michael Young
13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells
14 Vander-Johnny Damon
15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye
Round 3
1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez
2 Vander-Justin Morneau
3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko
4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez
5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal
6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins
7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones
8 bjoak-Jim Thome
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer
10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins
11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann
12 BEF-Juan Pierre
13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada
14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter
15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield
Round 4
1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter
2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan
3 Kimo-Brian Roberts
4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado
5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt
6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen
8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez
9 Spyhunter-Felipe Lopez
10 God Loves You-BJ Ryan
11 Chest Rockwell-Mariano Rivera
12 Dak-Billy Wagner
13 Edwards Kings-JJ Putz
14 Vander-
15 Doughboys-
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Carlos Zambrano and Brandon Webb.
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5-5 Jake Peavy
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You cannot make too much of one draft especially a mock, but I find it interesting the closer run started in the middle. I have probably studied 25 different NFBC style drafts and I am pretty sure I have never seen that.
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How many have you studied from 2007? I think the dynamics change from year to year.
But I don't agree with you anyway (surprise). Sure, it was a little unusual to not see a spare Rivera or K-rod fly off the shelf in round three, but the closer *run* usually happens in the fourth or even fifth round. It happened in the fourth here. I can't even remember a draft where the closer run started prior to that.
But I don't agree with you anyway (surprise). Sure, it was a little unusual to not see a spare Rivera or K-rod fly off the shelf in round three, but the closer *run* usually happens in the fourth or even fifth round. It happened in the fourth here. I can't even remember a draft where the closer run started prior to that.
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Wait, do I misunderstand? Are you saying in the middle of a round? That an end guy always starts the closer run? I don't look at stuff like that but it seems hard to believe since there are only two end guys in a given draft and one would always have to draft two closers in a row for it to make a difference that he was on the end and started the run.
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Originally posted by bjoak:
Wait, do I misunderstand? Are you saying in the middle of a round? That an end guy always starts the closer run? I don't look at stuff like that but it seems hard to believe since there are only two end guys in a given draft and one would always have to draft two closers in a row for it to make a difference that he was on the end and started the run. Yes you did misunderstand I am sure it is my fault though....
by end of round I mean picks 1-3, 13-15 this one pretty much started with you in the middle.
Usually a closer run is started by one or more owners near the end realizing they have to break out and be the first because there will be 25-30 picks before they go again. This draft you started (with the exact pick I would have made too) probably because there just was not anything that attractive right there. No sure thing stud starting pitchers mostly. The other possible scenario is there is enough sure things perception wise offense this year to get you through round 3 and the turn of 4 without the run? I suspected this may happen a lot this year and the one draft albeit a mock so far supports it. Will it happen a lot only time and bjoak's wisdom will tell.
On your other post you comment that drafts change year to year, exactly my point I am speculating that this year's draft may see closers drafted a little differently than before.
[ November 14, 2006, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]
Wait, do I misunderstand? Are you saying in the middle of a round? That an end guy always starts the closer run? I don't look at stuff like that but it seems hard to believe since there are only two end guys in a given draft and one would always have to draft two closers in a row for it to make a difference that he was on the end and started the run. Yes you did misunderstand I am sure it is my fault though....
by end of round I mean picks 1-3, 13-15 this one pretty much started with you in the middle.
Usually a closer run is started by one or more owners near the end realizing they have to break out and be the first because there will be 25-30 picks before they go again. This draft you started (with the exact pick I would have made too) probably because there just was not anything that attractive right there. No sure thing stud starting pitchers mostly. The other possible scenario is there is enough sure things perception wise offense this year to get you through round 3 and the turn of 4 without the run? I suspected this may happen a lot this year and the one draft albeit a mock so far supports it. Will it happen a lot only time and bjoak's wisdom will tell.
On your other post you comment that drafts change year to year, exactly my point I am speculating that this year's draft may see closers drafted a little differently than before.
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Yeah, I understand better now and it makes sense. I did notice a few weeks ago that this next year's closer crop seems to be loaded with solid pitchers who will have good job security and that makes me think it's not as important to jump on one early. There are normally 15 solid options and 15 so-so or worse. This time it looks more like 25-5. Maybe the draft is reflecting a new lack of urgency w/r/t closers.
You're correct that I took K-Rod simply because he looked like the most valuable player at that point.
You're correct that I took K-Rod simply because he looked like the most valuable player at that point.
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God Loves You is up. While we're waiting...Spyhunter, are you alive or should we find a replacement?
Round 1
1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols
2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez
3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes
4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano
5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard
6 JEagle-Carl Crawford
7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana
8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley
10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran
11 Raw Talent-David Wright
12 BEF-Bobby Abreu
13 Kimo-David Ortiz
14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki
15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez
Round 2
1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera
2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner
3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera
4 BEF?-Lance Berkman
5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter
6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee
8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins
9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore
10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday
11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay
12 Dak-Michael Young
13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells
14 Vander-Johnny Damon
15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye
Round 3
1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez
2 Vander-Justin Morneau
3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko
4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez
5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal
6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins
7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones
8 bjoak-Jim Thome
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer
10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins
11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann
12 BEF-Juan Pierre
13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada
14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter
15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield
Round 4
1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter
2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan
3 Kimo-Brian Roberts
4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado
5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt
6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen
8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez
9 Spyhunter-Felipe Lopez
10 God Loves You-BJ Ryan
11 Chest Rockwell-Mariano Rivera
12 Dak-Billy Wagner
13 Edwards Kings-JJ Putz
14 Vander-Trevor Hoffman
15 Doughboys-Carlos Zambrano
Round 5
1 Doughboys-Brandon Webb
2 Vander-Francisco Cordero
3 Edward Kings-Jeremy Bonderman
4 Dak-Robinson Cano
5 Chest Rockwell-Jake Peavy
6 God Loves You-
7 Spyhunter-
8 bjoak-
9 Tradesman Kettleers-
10 KJ Duke-
11 Raw Talent-
12 BEF-
13 Kimo-
14 Mr. Dalrae-
15 Don Mathis-
Round 1
1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols
2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez
3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes
4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano
5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard
6 JEagle-Carl Crawford
7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana
8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley
10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran
11 Raw Talent-David Wright
12 BEF-Bobby Abreu
13 Kimo-David Ortiz
14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki
15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez
Round 2
1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera
2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner
3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera
4 BEF?-Lance Berkman
5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter
6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee
8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins
9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore
10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday
11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay
12 Dak-Michael Young
13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells
14 Vander-Johnny Damon
15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye
Round 3
1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez
2 Vander-Justin Morneau
3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko
4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez
5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal
6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins
7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones
8 bjoak-Jim Thome
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer
10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins
11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann
12 BEF-Juan Pierre
13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada
14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter
15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield
Round 4
1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter
2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan
3 Kimo-Brian Roberts
4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado
5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt
6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen
8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez
9 Spyhunter-Felipe Lopez
10 God Loves You-BJ Ryan
11 Chest Rockwell-Mariano Rivera
12 Dak-Billy Wagner
13 Edwards Kings-JJ Putz
14 Vander-Trevor Hoffman
15 Doughboys-Carlos Zambrano
Round 5
1 Doughboys-Brandon Webb
2 Vander-Francisco Cordero
3 Edward Kings-Jeremy Bonderman
4 Dak-Robinson Cano
5 Chest Rockwell-Jake Peavy
6 God Loves You-
7 Spyhunter-
8 bjoak-
9 Tradesman Kettleers-
10 KJ Duke-
11 Raw Talent-
12 BEF-
13 Kimo-
14 Mr. Dalrae-
15 Don Mathis-
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god loves you = bill hall
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Spyhunter=Juggernaut= Huston Street
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6-8 CC Sabathia
Round 1
1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols
2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez
3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes
4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano
5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard
6 JEagle-Carl Crawford
7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana
8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley
10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran
11 Raw Talent-David Wright
12 BEF-Bobby Abreu
13 Kimo-David Ortiz
14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki
15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez
Round 2
1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera
2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner
3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera
4 BEF?-Lance Berkman
5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter
6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee
8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins
9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore
10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday
11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay
12 Dak-Michael Young
13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells
14 Vander-Johnny Damon
15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye
Round 3
1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez
2 Vander-Justin Morneau
3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko
4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez
5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal
6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins
7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones
8 bjoak-Jim Thome
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer
10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins
11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann
12 BEF-Juan Pierre
13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada
14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter
15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield
Round 4
1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter
2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan
3 Kimo-Brian Roberts
4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado
5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt
6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen
8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez
9 Spyhunter-Felipe Lopez
10 God Loves You-BJ Ryan
11 Chest Rockwell-Mariano Rivera
12 Dak-Billy Wagner
13 Edwards Kings-JJ Putz
14 Vander-Trevor Hoffman
15 Doughboys-Carlos Zambrano
Round 5
1 Doughboys-Brandon Webb
2 Vander-Francisco Cordero
3 Edward Kings-Jeremy Bonderman
4 Dak-Robinson Cano
5 Chest Rockwell-Jake Peavy
6 Headhunters-Bill Hall
7 Berkshire Juggernauts-Huston Street
8 bjoak-CC Sabathia
9 Tradesman Kettleers-
10 KJ Duke-
11 Raw Talent-
12 BEF-
13 Kimo-
14 Mr. Dalrae-
15 Don Mathis-
Round 1
1 Doughboys-Albert Pujols
2 Vander-Alex Rodriguez
3 Edward Kings-Jose Reyes
4 Dak-Alfonso Soriano
5 Chest Rockwell-Ryan Howard
6 JEagle-Carl Crawford
7 Spyhunter-Johan Santana
8 bjoak-Vladimir Guerrero
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Chase Utley
10 KJ Duke-Carlos Beltran
11 Raw Talent-David Wright
12 BEF-Bobby Abreu
13 Kimo-David Ortiz
14 Mr. Dalrae-Ichiro Suzuki
15 Don Mathis-Manny Ramirez
Round 2
1 Don Mathis-Mark Teixiera
2 Mr. Dalrae-Travis Hafner
3 Kimo-Miguel Cabrera
4 BEF?-Lance Berkman
5 Raw Talent-Derek Jeter
6 KJ Duke-Carlos Lee
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Derek Lee
8 bjoak-Jimmy Rollins
9 Spyhunter-Grady Sizemore
10 God Loves You-Matt Holliday
11 Chest Rockwell-Jason Bay
12 Dak-Michael Young
13 Edward Kings-Vernon Wells
14 Vander-Johnny Damon
15 Doughboys-Jermaine Dye
Round 3
1 Doughboys-Hanley Ramirez
2 Vander-Justin Morneau
3 Edward Kings-Paul Konerko
4 Dak-Aramis Ramirez
5 Chest Rockwell-Rafael Furcal
6 God Loves You-Chone Figgins
7 Spyhunter-Andruw Jones
8 bjoak-Jim Thome
9 Tradesman Kettleers-Joe Mauer
10 KJ Duke-Garrett Atkins
11 Raw Talent-Brian McCann
12 BEF-Juan Pierre
13 Kimo-Miguel Tejada
14 Mr. Dalrae-Torii Hunter
15 Don Mathis-Gary Sheffield
Round 4
1 Don Mathis-Chris Carpenter
2 Mr. Dalrae-Joe Nathan
3 Kimo-Brian Roberts
4 BEF?-Carlos Delgado
5 Raw Talent-Roy Oswalt
6 KJ Duke-Victor Martinez
7 Tradesman Kettleers-Carlos Guillen
8 bjoak-Francisco Rodriguez
9 Spyhunter-Felipe Lopez
10 God Loves You-BJ Ryan
11 Chest Rockwell-Mariano Rivera
12 Dak-Billy Wagner
13 Edwards Kings-JJ Putz
14 Vander-Trevor Hoffman
15 Doughboys-Carlos Zambrano
Round 5
1 Doughboys-Brandon Webb
2 Vander-Francisco Cordero
3 Edward Kings-Jeremy Bonderman
4 Dak-Robinson Cano
5 Chest Rockwell-Jake Peavy
6 Headhunters-Bill Hall
7 Berkshire Juggernauts-Huston Street
8 bjoak-CC Sabathia
9 Tradesman Kettleers-
10 KJ Duke-
11 Raw Talent-
12 BEF-
13 Kimo-
14 Mr. Dalrae-
15 Don Mathis-
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5-9, Tradesman Kettleers take Adam Dunn
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How come we cant create a draft on Mock Draft Central? Is it to early