Pre-Mag Mock Draftl

Brad Vo · Post by **Brad Vo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:48 am

22-8

David Wells

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:49 am

Jennings traded to the Astros today for Hirsh, Tavaras, and Bucholz. That pick of Burke a couple rounds ago looks much better now. I assume he's the new cf?

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:10 am

Originally posted by Vander:

Jennings traded to the Astros today for Hirsh, Tavaras, and Bucholz. That pick of Burke a couple rounds ago looks much better now. I assume he's the new cf? So Jennings goes from Coors to the Juice Box. Sigh (says his mythical owner in this mock...).

I'm not quite sure I get this trade. Hirsh had a great year at AAA (137IP, 2.43ERA, 1.14WHIP, .209OOBA) and both he and Buchholz are two of their top prospects. Taveras could easily steal 30+ if he keeps his OBA over league average.

I obviously like Jennings a lot, and I think he'll do well in Houston, but that seems like a very steep price to me.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:11 am

Originally posted by BEF:

quote:Originally posted by Vander:

Jennings traded to the Astros today for Hirsh, Tavaras, and Bucholz. That pick of Burke a couple rounds ago looks much better now. I assume he's the new cf? So Jennings goes from Coors to the Juice Box. Sigh (says his mythical owner in this mock...).

I'm not quite sure I get this trade. Hirsh had a great year at AAA (137IP, 2.43ERA, 1.14WHIP, .209OOBA) and both he and Buchholz are two of their top prospects. Taveras could easily steal 30+ if he keeps his OBA over league average.

I obviously like Jennings a lot, and I think he'll do well in Houston, but that seems like a very steep price to me. [/QUOTE]I agree completely- no matter how well Jennings does in 2007- great trade for the Rockies.

Are we to the point where Colorado to Houston is considered a neutral move for pitcher's value?

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:35 am

i am. also, the astros seem like a team in full "now or never" mode. the rockies- if they can keep the ball from flying out of there- are starting to look very good.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:38 am

by the way- bef- i will take the middle infielder that has already hit 20 homers 3 times- uribe. i just hope he stays out of jail. the guy in clorado hit 1 homer in 90 at bats- and never hit 20 in the minors. i say 10 is a reach

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:39 am

colorado that is

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:59 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

by the way- bef- i will take the middle infielder that has already hit 20 homers 3 times- uribe. i just hope he stays out of jail. the guy in clorado hit 1 homer in 90 at bats- and never hit 20 in the minors. i say 10 is a reach Good points. But I did see him play out in the AFL last month, and he was very sharp (329/.398/.468). Deric McKamey from BaseballHQ has him listed as the #1 prospect in that league, albeit with "gap power". So you're probably right about not reaching 20 dingers (although I'd be shocked if he didn't hit more than the 10 you're projecting). Even so, I'd rather have him than Uribe sitting in jail (or having deportation hanging over his head all season).

Actually, there is one last MI who could legitimately jack 20 if he stays healthy, and it'll be interesting to see if he gets picked up in the last round or so.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:07 pm

he will be picked but he can't stay healthy. i like uribe better- better park, more rbi etc. if he hits lower than .235 he won't be playing. i like troy- just commenting on your comment and how uribe seems a lock to hit 20- and no i don't expect him in jail. but were are mocking. by march we would know

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:10 pm

Originally posted by headhunters:

i am. also, the astros seem like a team in full "now or never" mode. the rockies- if they can keep the ball from flying out of there- are starting to look very good. If this were true shouldn't the Astro's have ponied up an extra two million to get Pettitte? They have had the worst off season possible. Signing Carlos Lee with his weight and lazy rap to a long termed deal, losing Pettitte which probably leads to losing Clemens, then lose their two best pitching prospects for a lease of Jennings for one year.

I think we should send Purpura an invitation to the NFBC.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:27 pm

GLU is up, then Chest and DAK

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:15 pm

22:10 Scott Linebrink

BTW, KJ, great job at keeping the results updated. Thanks.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:47 pm

David Dejesus

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:32 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

David Dejesus dejesus already taken in rd 19

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:59 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

David Dejesus dejesus already taken in rd 19 [/QUOTE]Well I guess BEF and I just do not agree on the value of a couple of OF's. How about Reggie Sanders.

Is it just me or is Jonny Gomes still on the board- may have missed him?

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:09 am

22-12 Joe Borowski - Cheap saves in 22nd?? Or will he break down again??

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:24 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Is it just me or is Jonny Gomes still on the board- may have missed him? I hear he's a stud in the ever-popular 11x11 method. However, this being a 5x5 format, it's quite understandable that Gomes is still out there with 22 rounds in the books.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:59 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Is it just me or is Jonny Gomes still on the board- may have missed him? I hear he's a stud in the ever-popular 11x11 method. However, this being a 5x5 format, it's quite understandable that Gomes is still out there with 22 rounds in the books. [/QUOTE]Be careful man you are going to get a post telling you how you do not think originally and follow the herd like I got. That guy needs to rent Rounders classic line if in a few minutes you have not found the sucker at the table that means you are the sucker- or something like it.

Look forward to drafting with you tonight- Per the expert knowledge of our possible new counterpart I will be going Jeff Kent somewhat early and Jonny Gomes after the first turn. Also made a sticky note that Chase Utley is valuable this year he tought me that too.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:07 am

Doug Davis, SP, ARI

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:16 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Also made a sticky note that Chase Utley is valuable this year he tought me that too. Not a lot of sure thing 2nd sackers in 2007. Thus, I suppose the right move would be for Eddie "I Got Stuck With the #1 Pick Again" Gillis to select Utley ahead of Pujols.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:37 am

Utley is the darling of the position first fantasy players this year, isn't he? Last year it was VMartinez going in the second round that amazed me. This year seeing Utley going as high as second overall on some mock drafts...wow.Using the eraser a lot with him and Derek Lee in my rankings but for totally different reasons.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:00 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Utley is the darling of the position first fantasy players this year, isn't he? Last year it was VMartinez going in the second round that amazed me. This year seeing Utley going as high as second overall on some mock drafts...wow.Using the eraser a lot with him and Derek Lee in my rankings but for totally different reasons. If you are like me you tend to know a lot more about a guy if you owned him the year before in the main event. That is the case with me and Utley. Nothing not to like about the guy and no one will argue that he is head and shoulders above the field at 2b, but he still does not crack my top 5. I referenced it because the guy wrote a post on it like he was revealing earth shattering information on him being a top guy for 07.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:58 am

my guess is whichever teams figure out who the #2 second basemen will be- or luck into him in round 13- will have very good starts to their season. with all the good- not great- ones available- at least 1 will have a great year.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:28 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

my guess is whichever teams figure out who the #2 second basemen will be- or luck into him in round 13- will have very good starts to their season. with all the good- not great- ones available- at least 1 will have a great year. I agree completely- an Uggla in 06, or a Cantu in 05 are always huge but even more amplified in 07 b/c you will get a stud at an extremely thin field.

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:36 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

my guess is whichever teams figure out who the #2 second basemen will be- or luck into him in round 13- will have very good starts to their season. with all the good- not great- ones available- at least 1 will have a great year. Agreed. The difference between #2-#5 (probably Roberts, Weeks, Cano, maybe Uggla) and those down at #10-#15 (i.e. Castillo, Kinsler, Hudson, Aurilia) isn't enough to justify a Top 10, especially since all of Roberts/Weeks et al have histories of injury (and who knows if Uggla is a fluke). Unless you grab Utley in the first, I don't see the need to grab at 2B until the 10th round at the earliest.