Mock Draft #2

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:42 am

Originally posted by Asumijet:

, then one may need to reach early for him. Music to the advisory board's ears

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:49 am

Originally posted by Asumijet:

If I am drafting 6th or 7th and can get Pujols (like this year's champion, Terry, got Arod at #7), I am laughing all the way to the bank. in retrospect terry got a gift with arod at 7 and then rollins in the 2nd. But it took a LOT more than just those two to win the championship.

Berkshire Juggernauts · Post by **Berkshire Juggernauts** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:26 am

I have a question, where does Bedard rank in all of this? it seems he was having a huge year before injury. I will admit I wasnt huge on him going into 07 but I dont see much of a difference with Santana Peavy and Bedard except his team stinks. What do fellas think?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:47 am

Bedard

Good

nice skills (pre injury)

Bad

team stinks; bullpen is shitt; tricky injury for a pitcher; look at the offenses in his division he has to face.

2008 Draft Day Prediction: he will be drafted before I'd seriously consider him.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:53 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Asumijet:

If I am drafting 6th or 7th and can get Pujols (like this year's champion, Terry, got Arod at #7), I am laughing all the way to the bank. in retrospect terry got a gift with arod at 7 and then rollins in the 2nd. But it took a LOT more than just those two to win the championship. [/QUOTE]Well said Gordon lots of teams had gifts fall to them, he used other picks to pull away. In particular two guys I was not high in 07 Beckett and V Mart. Bedard will be the 4th pitcher on my board but I think Bedard in the 4th is as good of a pick as Peavy in the 2nd neither will be great picks in those rounds.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:24 am

oct thoughts...

peavy in the 2nd - pass

bedard in the 4th - pass

bedard #4 SP - pass

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:30 am

Originally posted by Vander:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

So if the first round is about risk management as much as anything else (i.e. you cannot win the NFBC in the first round but you can sure lose it), and you have a group of pheonominal players who rely very much on speed (which can be adversly impacted by even a mild strain) to differentiate them from most of the players you could pick in the second round, and you have a player who has a seven year MLB history and will STILL be only 28 next year whose WORST year was 99/32/103/.327 and who averaged 130/45/125/.338 in 575+ AB per season over the previous four seasons, why again would you pass Pujols?

Just my humble opinion, but if someone does get him at 5-6-7, it is a gift.

It is good, however, that for the first time in a long time we have more than a usual "Top 2" consensus picks. Not a knock on Albert and he does get bookoo points for reliability, but as dan said again it's next year not last year. STL made a big mistake dumping Jockety imho. He was one of the best gm's around. I have little confidence they can surround Albert with adequit protection and table setters. He also doesn't steal much. wright continues to improve and steal. Another stellar year helps his reliability factor also and he will bat 3rd this year, not 5th as last year started out. This gets him more ab's as well as better protection then he would get 5th. It will get him over the 100 R's he was missing. Who would you rather have hitting behind you Beltran or who's the cleanup guy in STL? Larussa likes to hit Duncan or Ankiel 2nd. A mystery to me why. Same as Guillen wantint to bat Uribe 2nd. And who would you rather have leading off Reyes or wait a minute Eckstein's a free agent I think, so who knows. Maybe Larussa can bat Duncan lead off and Ankiel 2nd or maybe the pitcher could figure in somehow cause he has a computer model somewhere that says it will help. maybe if his pitcher every day is Owings. See if the new GM can trade for him. As you may have already inferred I don't like Larussa much. Sorry to ramble. I'm not trying to give you a hard time. Just would take Wright over Pujols right now. BTW welcome Neal. [/QUOTE]It is funny how different people see things.I never have liked Jocketty.The farm system is miserable.I consider the offense Pujols and the seven dwarfs.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:27 am

The Cards are on the down turn and the offense is Pujols and the 7 dwarfs, but prior to this the Cards were contenders for years including winning a world series. Being from Chicago and having mostly non contenders on both sides of town this is a great accomplishment especially with the limited budget he was forced to work with. Many other teams have limited budgets also. Most of them don't contend though. Money can't buy a WS it sure helps though. A good GM is more important than money imho. I think Jocketty is one of them. Just how I see it from gettiing whomped by the Cards year after year for most of my life.

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:51 am

Originally posted by Vander:

The Cards are on the down turn and the offense is Pujols and the 7 dwarfs, but prior to this the Cards were contenders for years including winning a world series. Being from Chicago and having mostly non contenders on both sides of town this is a great accomplishment especially with the limited budget he was forced to work with. Many other teams have limited budgets also. Most of them don't contend though. Money can't buy a WS it sure helps though. A good GM is more important than money imho. I think Jocketty is one of them. Just how I see it from gettiing whomped by the Cards year after year for most of my life. Winning a world series off of a 83 win season.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:12 pm

briliee is up?

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:17 pm

Brilee picked Carlos Lee

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:38 pm

Is it my pick yet?

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:17 pm

I think you're after the next pick.

Brilee's Brigade · Post by **Brilee's Brigade** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:41 pm

I picked Lee 24 hours ago

Sheep · Post by **Sheep** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:49 pm

Doughboys up

Eli on deck

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:09 am

Sorry for the holdup, Guerrero, of , LA, Cal, Ana, Ana of LA, Greater LA area, any place that will make us more money Angels.

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:10 am

teixeira

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:53 am

Berkman

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:08 pm

headhunters pick braun

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:10 pm

oops headhunters pick rios

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:08 pm

BJ Upton, TB

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:47 pm

2.12 Russell Martin

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:20 am

1.1 A Rodriguez (KJ Duke)

1.2 H Ramirez (Vander)

1.3 J Reyes (Sheep)

1.4 D Wright (God loves you)

1.5 A Pujols (DAK)

1.6 J Rollins (Headhunters)

1.7 C Utley (Chester Rockwell)

1.8 M Holliday (EliGrimmett)

1.9 A Soriano (Doughboys)

1.10 R Howard (Brilee’s Brigade)

1.11 G Sizemore (Hard Heads)

1.12 C Crawford (Berkshire Juggernauts)

1.13 J Santana (Edward Kings)

1.14 M Cabrera (Asumijet)

1.15 P Fielder (Dickie V)

2.1 R Braun (Dickie V)

2.2 J Peavy (Asumijet)

2.3 C Beltran (Edwards Kings)

2.4 D Ortiz (Berkshire Juggernauts)

2.5 B Phillips(Hard Heads)

2.6 C Lee (Brilee's Brigade)

2.7 V Guerrero (Doughboys)

2.8 M Teixeira (EliGrimmett)

2.9 L Berkman (Chest Rockwell)

2.10 A Rios (Headhunters)

2.11 BJ Upton (DAK)

2.12 R Martin (GLU)

2.13 (Sheep)

2.14 (KJ Duke)

2.15 (Vander)

[ October 29, 2007, 06:21 AM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]

Sheep · Post by **Sheep** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:28 am

2.13 V Martinez

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:04 am

I believe it's my pick now with KJ @ 2-15. I will take Ichiro OF SEA.