2011 Message Board Draft

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:47 pm

adam dunn 1b wash. (for now)

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:57 pm

Well, you guys nailed both 30+ homer guys I had targeted right in front of me (Uggla and Dunn), so let's go with one more: Paul Konerko.

My thinking is that I've got four guys (Votto, Choo, Posey, Konerko) who should provide a collective .300 BA over 2,000 PA's, while also providing about 125 homers and 50 SB's. I think that combination of AVG/Power is very hard to find after the 5th round, at which point it'll be easier to find guys that specialize in either power or SB's but with lower BA.

Thoughts?

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:02 pm

Well, you guys nailed both 30+ homer guys I had targeted right in front of me (Uggla and Dunn), so let's go with one more: Paul Konerko.

My thinking is that I've got four guys (Votto, Choo, Posey, Konerko) who should provide a collective .300 BA over 2,000 PA's, while also providing about 125 homers and 50 SB's. I think that combination of AVG/Power is very hard to find after the 5th round, at which point it'll be easier to find guys that specialize in either power or SB's but with lower BA.

Thoughts?

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:50 pm

Originally posted by BEF:

My thinking is that I've got four guys (Votto, Choo, Posey, Konerko) who should provide a collective .300 BA over 2,000 PA's, while also providing about 125 homers and 50 SB's. I think that combination of AVG/Power is very hard to find after the 5th round, at which point it'll be easier to find guys that specialize in either power or SB's but with lower BA.

Thoughts? i'll estimate a more realistic over/under is 105hr and 40sb

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:46 am

1.1 Albert Pujols- Glennerationx

1.2 Carlos Gonzalez- Asumijet

1.3 Miguel Cabrera- Navel Lint

1.4 Hanley Ramirez- Raskol

1.5 Joey Votto- BEF

1.6 Troy Tulowitzki- headhunters

1.7 Evan Longoria- Schwks

1.8 Carl Crawford- Lawrence Liebman

1.9 Alex Rodriquez- Don M

1.10 Ryan Braun- DOUGHBOYS

1.11 Josh Hamilton- Catch

1.12 Roy Halladay- Head2Head

1.13 Robinson Cano - emalbright

1.14 Chase Utley - ToddZ

1.15 Ryan Howard - GregA

Second Round

2.1 David Wright - GregA

2.2 Jose Reyes - ToddZ

2.3 Matt Holiday - emalbright

2.4 Mark Teixeira- Head2Head

2.5 Tim Lincecum- Catch

2.6 Matt Kemp- DOUGHBOYS

2.7 Prince Fielder- Don M

2.8 Adrian Gonzalez- Lawrence Liebman

2.9 Ryan Zimmerman- Schwks

2.10 Joe Mauer- headhunters

2.11 Chin-Sin Choo- BEF

2.12 CC Sabathia- Raskol

2.13 Hunter Pence- Navel Lint

2.14 Brandon Phillips- Asumijet

2.15 Dustin Pedroia- Glennerationx

ROUND THREE

3.1 Felix Hernandez- Glennerationx

3.2 Andrew McCutchen- Asumijet

3.3 Ian Kinsler- Navel Lint

3.4 Kevin Youkilis- Raskol

3.5 Buster Posey- BEF

3.6 Victor Martinez- headhunters

3.7 Nelson Cruz- Schwks

3.8 Justin Morneau- Lawrence Liebman

3.9 Adam Wainwright- Don M

3.10 Justin Upton- DOUGHBOYS

3.11 Jose Bautista- Catch

3.12 Jerad Weaver - Head2Head

3.13 Cliff Lee- emalbright

3.14 Jimmy Rollins - ToddZ

3.15 Jacoby Ellsbury - GregA

Fourth Round

4.1 Alex Rios - GregA

4.2 Ichiro Suzuki- ToddZ

4.3 Jayson Werth- Emalbright

4.4 Chris Young- Head 2 Head

4.5 Brian McCann- Catch

4.6 Shane Victorino- DOUGHBOYS

4.7 Dan Uggla- Don M

4.8 Rickey Weeks- Lawrence Liebman

4.9 Kendry Morales- Schwks

4.10 Adam Dunn- headhunters

4.11 Paul Konerko- BEF

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:39 am

Emory, you are up.

By the way, for you folks that want to keep updated with the Premature E-Draftulation Draft, Emory has all the 2nd round highlights on the fantasy911.com site.

I'm sure he'll provide a link when he picks.

Raskol · Post by **Raskol** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:51 am

Adrian Beltre, 3B, Bos?

Here is the link for Round Two coverage of our pay draft:

Premature E-Draftulation, Round Two

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:46 am

Here is some commentary on my squad so far...

1. Utley

2. Reyes

3. Rollins

4. Ichiro

Way to go bonehead, you finally get a grasp on how to do this drafting thing and you toss it out the window.

It's not so much the risk I incurred with these picks, though that is some of it.

It is not so much that if I knew I could get Rollins in the 3rd, I would have bypassed Reyes in the second and gone with a reliable power hitter.

It is that I have completely boxed myself into a corner, and will be forced to have to target specialty type players in order to have the necessary balance to compete.

It took me 5 years to learn the best draft is not taking the "best player" at each pick. It is taking picks in such a manner to be able to take advantage of value picks later on. Some of this means having spots and the need for guys I like. Some of this is being able to take advantage of global market trends. You never want to HAVE to take a particular type of player. The reason is in a draft, there is a chance they will be taken before you pick (something that has already happened to me) or you will be forced to REACH for then, giving up some value or upside.

Specifically, I need to make up power. I am woefully short on it. So why did I take Ichiro in the 4th? I would be short regardless. And I really did not have a good feel for anyone else available. So by taking Ichiro, I have a batting average cushion which will allow me to take some low average, high power guys. But like I said, this is risky as they may be scooped before it is my turn like Dunn and Uggla just were. So in order to make up for my paucity in power, I may have to delay pitching longer than I initially intended, instead taking a hitter or two to help make up the difference. This may indeed work out okay, as I am confident in my ability to build a staff without an ace, but as mentioned, anytime a strategy like this is necessary, you are taking the chance the required parts are available at your pick. We'll see what happens.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:38 am

I have my power hitting 1B – M Cabrera

I have a 20+/15+ OF – H Pence

I have my high risk/reward 2B – I Kinsler

Time for my #1 Starter:

Jon Lester. If he can improve his control even slightly, he could be a top 5 pitcher.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:58 am

Originally posted by Raskol:

Adrian Beltre, 3B, Bos?

Here is the link for Round Two coverage of our pay draft:

Premature E-Draftulation, Round Two So Round 2 of the NFBC Pay League had as follows:

1. Matt Holliday

2. Ryan Howard

3. Matt Kemp

4. Ryan Zimmerman

5. Joe Mauer

6. Victor Martinez

7. Tim Lincecum

8. Mark Teixeira

9. CC Sabathia

10. Jose Reyes

11. Prince Fielder

12. Dustin Pedroia

13. Felix Hernandez

14. Andrew McCutchen

15. Adam Wainwright

Of the 30 top picks, 26 of them are the same in both drafts and two in the NFBC MB draft went to picks 31 and 32 (Felix Hernandez and Andrew McCutchen). The other two players who didn't go in the first two rounds of the MB draft were Victor Martinez and Wainwright and both of them went in the third round. It looks like Adrian Gonzalez got the love in the second round of the MB draft but wasn't as loved in the pay draft.

The top players are starting to emerge for 2011. It should be fun to see if they stay there during the upcoming off-season.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:24 am

Neal and Glenn up next.

Asumijet · Post by **Asumijet** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:24 pm

ubaldo jimenez

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:18 am

We'll go Josh Johnson & Jason Heyward.

Glenn

Asumijet · Post by **Asumijet** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:28 am

Alexei Ramirez

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:11 am

1.1 Albert Pujols- Glennerationx

1.2 Carlos Gonzalez- Asumijet

1.3 Miguel Cabrera- Navel Lint

1.4 Hanley Ramirez- Raskol

1.5 Joey Votto- BEF

1.6 Troy Tulowitzki- headhunters

1.7 Evan Longoria- Schwks

1.8 Carl Crawford- Lawrence Liebman

1.9 Alex Rodriquez- Don M

1.10 Ryan Braun- DOUGHBOYS

1.11 Josh Hamilton- Catch

1.12 Roy Halladay- Head2Head

1.13 Robinson Cano - emalbright

1.14 Chase Utley - ToddZ

1.15 Ryan Howard - GregA

Second Round

2.1 David Wright - GregA

2.2 Jose Reyes - ToddZ

2.3 Matt Holiday - emalbright

2.4 Mark Teixeira- Head2Head

2.5 Tim Lincecum- Catch

2.6 Matt Kemp- DOUGHBOYS

2.7 Prince Fielder- Don M

2.8 Adrian Gonzalez- Lawrence Liebman

2.9 Ryan Zimmerman- Schwks

2.10 Joe Mauer- headhunters

2.11 Chin-Sin Choo- BEF

2.12 CC Sabathia- Raskol

2.13 Hunter Pence- Navel Lint

2.14 Brandon Phillips- Asumijet

2.15 Dustin Pedroia- Glennerationx

ROUND THREE

3.1 Felix Hernandez- Glennerationx

3.2 Andrew McCutchen- Asumijet

3.3 Ian Kinsler- Navel Lint

3.4 Kevin Youkilis- Raskol

3.5 Buster Posey- BEF

3.6 Victor Martinez- headhunters

3.7 Nelson Cruz- Schwks

3.8 Justin Morneau- Lawrence Liebman

3.9 Adam Wainwright- Don M

3.10 Justin Upton- DOUGHBOYS

3.11 Jose Bautista- Catch

3.12 Jerad Weaver - Head2Head

3.13 Cliff Lee- emalbright

3.14 Jimmy Rollins - ToddZ

3.15 Jacoby Ellsbury - GregA

Fourth Round

4.1 Alex Rios - GregA

4.2 Ichiro Suzuki- ToddZ

4.3 Jayson Werth- Emalbright

4.4 Chris Young- Head 2 Head

4.5 Brian McCann- Catch

4.6 Shane Victorino- DOUGHBOYS

4.7 Dan Uggla- Don M

4.8 Rickey Weeks- Lawrence Liebman

4.9 Kendry Morales- Schwks

4.10 Adam Dunn- headhunters

4.11 Paul Konerko- BEF

4.12 Adrian Beltre- Raskol

4.13 John Lester- Navel Lint

4.14. Ubaldo Jimenez- Asumijet

4.15 Josh Johnson- Glennerationx

ROUND FIVE:

5.1 Jason Heyward- Glennerationx

5.2 Alexie Ramirez- Asumijet

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:37 am

I just picked up Lester with my last pick, now I’m going to go with another 200+ inn/ 200+ K left-hander

5.3 Clayton Kershaw

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:49 am

Fourth Round

4.1 Alex Rios - GregA

4.2 Ichiro Suzuki- ToddZ

4.3 Jayson Werth- Emalbright

4.4 Chris Young- Head 2 Head

4.5 Brian McCann- Catch

4.6 Shane Victorino- DOUGHBOYS

4.7 Dan Uggla- Don M

4.8 Rickey Weeks- Lawrence Liebman

4.9 Kendry Morales- Schwks

4.10 Adam Dunn- headhunters

4.11 Paul Konerko- BEF

4.12 Adrian Beltre- Raskol

4.13 John Lester- Navel Lint

4.14. Ubaldo Jimenez- Asumijet

4.15 Josh Johnson- Glennerationx

ROUND FIVE:

5.1 Jason Heyward- Glennerationx

5.2 Alexie Ramirez- Asumijet

5.3 Clayton Kershaw- Navel Lint

Raskol · Post by **Raskol** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:43 am

Michael Stanton, OF, FLA

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:16 am

BEF, headhunters, and Schwks up next...

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:18 am

Continuing the semi-run of #1 SP's: David Price

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:54 am

liriano sp minny

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:57 am

Fourth Round

4.1 Alex Rios - GregA

4.2 Ichiro Suzuki- ToddZ

4.3 Jayson Werth- Emalbright

4.4 Chris Young- Head 2 Head

4.5 Brian McCann- Catch

4.6 Shane Victorino- DOUGHBOYS

4.7 Dan Uggla- Don M

4.8 Rickey Weeks- Lawrence Liebman

4.9 Kendry Morales- Schwks

4.10 Adam Dunn- headhunters

4.11 Paul Konerko- BEF

4.12 Adrian Beltre- Raskol

4.13 John Lester- Navel Lint

4.14. Ubaldo Jimenez- Asumijet

4.15 Josh Johnson- Glennerationx

ROUND FIVE:

5.1 Jason Heyward- Glennerationx

5.2 Alexie Ramirez- Asumijet

5.3 Clayton Kershaw- Navel Lint

5.4 Mike Stanton- Raskol

5.5 David Price- BEF

5.6 Francisco Liriano- headhunters

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:59 am

Justin Verlander

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:00 am

When everyone is zigging, I am zigging

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:10 am

Fourth Round

4.1 Alex Rios - GregA

4.2 Ichiro Suzuki- ToddZ

4.3 Jayson Werth- Emalbright

4.4 Chris Young- Head 2 Head

4.5 Brian McCann- Catch

4.6 Shane Victorino- DOUGHBOYS

4.7 Dan Uggla- Don M

4.8 Rickey Weeks- Lawrence Liebman

4.9 Kendry Morales- Schwks

4.10 Adam Dunn- headhunters

4.11 Paul Konerko- BEF

4.12 Adrian Beltre- Raskol

4.13 John Lester- Navel Lint

4.14. Ubaldo Jimenez- Asumijet

4.15 Josh Johnson- Glennerationx

ROUND FIVE:

5.1 Jason Heyward- Glennerationx

5.2 Alexie Ramirez- Asumijet

5.3 Clayton Kershaw- Navel Lint

5.4 Mike Stanton- Raskol

5.5 David Price- BEF

5.6 Francisco Liriano- headhunters

5.7 Justin Verlander- Schwks