Draft Order For NFBC II Magazine League

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:44 am

My bad on the original draft order. Hang tight and I'll update the list in a few minutes and I promise this will be FINAL!!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:00 am

Here is the official Draft Order for Thursday's NFBC II Magazine League, which will be held on Mock Draft Central.com starting at 7 p.m. EST. Jason Pliml will send out the invitation to the league tonight and you'll have a few days to rank your players and test out the site. Please get to the draft room early and we'll cruise through those 30 rounds. Everyone is excited to participate, so it should be some fun.

Draft Order:

1. Rob Dykoff

2. Mike Konemann

3. Gordon Gekko

4. Kent Stermon

5. Elliott Haworth

6. Dan Kenyon

7. Stanley Kaye

8. Perry Van Hook

9. Terry Passalacqua

10. Eddie Gillis

11. Mike Ladd

12. John Zaleski

13. Jim Ferrari

14. Todd Zola

15. George Kleemann

viper · Post by **viper** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:04 am

a new order .. hmmmmm

computer glitch????

there is a story here and inquiring minds want to know

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:08 am

Okay, I said I would analyze the Kentucky Derby Style system for this league so that we could get everyone up to speed on the process. Here was the randomly selected draft order from Tom BEFORE KDS was implemented.

1. Rob Dykhoff

2. George Kleemann

3. Mike Konemann

4. Gordon Gekko

5. Dan Kenyon

6. Terry Passalacqua

7. Todd Zola

8. Perry Van Hook

9. Kent Stermon

10. Stanley Kaye

11. Jim Ferrari

12. Elliott Haworth

13. Eddie Gillis

14. Mike Ladd

15. John Zaleski

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:12 am

Originally posted by viper:

a new order .. hmmmmm

computer glitch????

there is a story here and inquiring minds want to know No computer glitch, but I think I learned that we can simplify the process even more than we have it now. Having two columns of numbers can be confusing, for me and the participants!!! This was a good test run as I screwed up during the first testing.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:12 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Okay, I said I would analyze the Kentucky Derby Style system for this league so that we could get everyone up to speed on the process. Here was the randomly selected draft order from Tom BEFORE KDS was implemented.

1. Rob Dykhoff

2. George Kleemann

3. Mike Konemann

4. Gordon Gekko

5. Dan Kenyon

6. Terry Passalacqua

7. Todd Zola

8. Perry Van Hook

9. Kent Stermon

10. Stanley Kaye

11. Jim Ferrari

12. Elliott Haworth

13. Eddie Gillis

14. Mike Ladd

15. John Zaleski KDS works.

I was last to choose and rec'd my 6th choice.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:18 am

1. Rob Dykhoff - stayed at 1

2. George Kleemann - down to 15

3. Mike Konemann - up to 2

4. Gordon Gekko - up to 3

5. Dan Kenyon - down to 6

6. Terry Passalacqua - down to 9

7. Todd Zola - down to 14

8. Perry Van Hook - stayed at 8

9. Kent Stermon - up to 4

10. Stanley Kaye - up to 7

11. Jim Ferrari - down to 13

12. Elliott Haworth - up to 5

13. Eddie Gillis - up to 10

14. Mike Ladd - up to 11

15. John Zaleski up to 12 [/QB]

viper · Post by **viper** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:26 am

a red flag was dropped and a review was undertaken. After further review .. wait, that's football and not baseball.

viper · Post by **viper** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:30 am

fyi, my KDS preferences were:

8, 7, 9, 2, 1, 6, 10, 5, 11, 4, 3, 12, 13, 14, 15

I prefer drafting from the middle but it's hard not to want one of the top two guy. I will be interested how those two teams view things after the draft is completed. Drafting on the ends have disadvantages but can they be offset by getting Pujols or Arod?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:31 am

As you can see, things changed quickly as George Kleemann chose No. 15 as his second preference. He said he wanted to see what life was like at that end of the draft! That allowed the next three owners to move up one spot. The biggest jump was made by Elliott Haworth, who was randomly picked for the 12th spot, but moved up to the 5th spot as nobody ahead of him selected that. Kent Stermon also moved from 9th to 4th.

It's interesting to note that the person randomly picked 15th moved up to 12th, his sixth preference, and the owner picked 14th moved up to 11th, his third preference. Five owners chose to move down in the draft, including those randomly selected at 5, 6 and 7.

Eleven owners picked No. 1 as their first Draft Preference, while three owners took No. 2 and one owner took No. 8. Five owners left their Draft Preferences as 1 through 15.

Feel free to ask questions here so that we all are clear on the Draft Preferences feature. If you haven't checked it out for your main event team or your satellite teams, go to your My Teams area, click on My Settings (way to the right), pull down to the Draft Preferences link (third one down) and you'll see them listed 1 through 15. Good luck everyone.

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:43 am

So - some people DO NOT want A-Rod or Pujols!!!!

If I can grab one - I'll take 'em!

marinersfan · Post by **marinersfan** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:16 am

What an unexpected turn of events. I went to lunch fretting over who I was going to be left with at 12th pick. Now I'm 5th. You can't help but be a fan of KDS after that.

[ January 24, 2006, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: marinersfan ]

viper · Post by **viper** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:23 am

my third preference wasn't the 11 hole. I assume you meant another. That or there was a computer glitch.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:52 am

Originally posted by viper:

my third preference wasn't the 11 hole. I assume you meant another. That or there was a computer glitch. Yup, my bad. But at 14 you did move up to 11, which can't be all bad.

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:57 am

Give me (MASTERS) A-Rod b/4 we redo this!

stargells star · Post by **stargells star** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:40 pm

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:52 pm

Originally posted by viper:

fyi, my KDS preferences were:

8, 7, 9, 2, 1, 6, 10, 5, 11, 4, 3, 12, 13, 14, 15

I prefer drafting from the middle but it's hard not to want one of the top two guy. I will be interested how those two teams view things after the draft is completed. Drafting on the ends have disadvantages but can they be offset by getting Pujols or Arod? OK Viper, seeing how you put up your draft order, Is there someone you hoped to get 8? If so why would you have put up 7 first? There is no method to this list. As you cannot predict future rounds, you must have players in mind when making a draft order.

8-Manny Rameriz

7-Derrick Lee

9-Miguel Cabrara

2-Albert Pujols

1-Alex Rodriguez

6-Carl Crawford

10-Miguel Tejada

5-Johan Santana

11-Bobby Abreu

4-Mark Texeira

3-Vlad Guerrero

12-David Ortiz

13-David Wright

14-Jimmy Rollins

15-Alfonso Soriano

This is Greg's magazine list.

As you might not have the players slotted in these spots, it is a pretty safe bet in the first round you will be presented with similar decisions.

At 8, Santana and Lee might slide, but I bet no one else does. Are you telling me you have a player in mind or just letting the draft come to you?

[ January 24, 2006, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:25 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Okay, I said I would analyze the Kentucky Derby Style system for this league so that we could get everyone up to speed on the process. Here was the randomly selected draft order from Tom BEFORE KDS was implemented.

1. Rob Dykhoff

2. George Kleemann

3. Mike Konemann

4. Gordon Gekko

5. Dan Kenyon

6. Terry Passalacqua

7. Todd Zola

8. Perry Van Hook

9. Kent Stermon

10. Stanley Kaye

11. Jim Ferrari

12. Elliott Haworth

13. Eddie Gillis

14. Mike Ladd

15. John Zaleski KDS works.

I was last to choose and rec'd my 6th choice. [/QUOTE]Just because you got your 6th choice doesn't mean it is the 6th best slot. You obvoiusly could have had 15 no matter where you slotted it.

[ January 24, 2006, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:41 pm

OK guys i went 1thru 5 10 to 14 and last 6 to 9.I now get pick 10 , which was my 6th best slot that i wanted, not bad considering i was the 13th draw.AT ten maybe someone slides , and on the way back i should get the guy i really want.We will see , good luck everybody.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:54 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Okay, I said I would analyze the Kentucky Derby Style system for this league so that we could get everyone up to speed on the process. Here was the randomly selected draft order from Tom BEFORE KDS was implemented.

1. Rob Dykhoff

2. George Kleemann

3. Mike Konemann

4. Gordon Gekko

5. Dan Kenyon

6. Terry Passalacqua

7. Todd Zola

8. Perry Van Hook

9. Kent Stermon

10. Stanley Kaye

11. Jim Ferrari

12. Elliott Haworth

13. Eddie Gillis

14. Mike Ladd

15. John Zaleski KDS works.

I was last to choose and rec'd my 6th choice. [/QUOTE]Just because you got your 6th choice doesn't it is the 6th best slot. You obvoiusly could have had 15 no matter where you slotted it. [/QUOTE]I am confused?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:11 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

You obvoiusly could have had 15 no matter where you slotted it. [/QB][/quote]

I could not have had 15 unless I was picked first to choose. #2 chose to pick 15th.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:14 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Okay, I said I would analyze the Kentucky Derby Style system for this league so that we could get everyone up to speed on the process. Here was the randomly selected draft order from Tom BEFORE KDS was implemented.

1. Rob Dykhoff

2. George Kleemann

3. Mike Konemann

4. Gordon Gekko

5. Dan Kenyon

6. Terry Passalacqua

7. Todd Zola

8. Perry Van Hook

9. Kent Stermon

10. Stanley Kaye

11. Jim Ferrari

12. Elliott Haworth

13. Eddie Gillis

14. Mike Ladd

15. John Zaleski KDS works.

I was last to choose and rec'd my 6th choice. [/QUOTE]Just because you got your 6th choice doesn't it is the 6th best slot. You obvoiusly could have had 15 no matter where you slotted it. [/QUOTE]I am confused? [/QUOTE]Don't worry, Tiger. Just keep thinking about it and it'll come to you eventually.

viper · Post by **viper** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:16 pm

With the 8 pick, I do not have specific selection earmarked for round 1 in mind. It is my thought that as a draft progresses, picking in the middle has advantages that even outweigh having one of the first 2-3 picks. Runs are not a concern. You typiclally have players you feel have slipped for every pick. I have drafted on the edges twice and here are problems there.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:29 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by viper:

fyi, my KDS preferences were:

8, 7, 9, 2, 1, 6, 10, 5, 11, 4, 3, 12, 13, 14, 15

I prefer drafting from the middle but it's hard not to want one of the top two guy. I will be interested how those two teams view things after the draft is completed. Drafting on the ends have disadvantages but can they be offset by getting Pujols or Arod? OK Viper, seeing how you put up your draft order, Is there someone you hoped to get 8? If so why would you have put up 7 first? There is no method to this list. As you cannot predict future rounds, you must have players in mind when making a draft order.

8-Manny Rameriz

7-Derrick Lee

9-Miguel Cabrara

2-Albert Pujols

1-Alex Rodriguez

6-Carl Crawford

10-Miguel Tejada

5-Johan Santana

11-Bobby Abreu

4-Mark Texeira

3-Vlad Guerrero

12-David Ortiz

13-David Wright

14-Jimmy Rollins

15-Alfonso Soriano

This is Greg's magazine list.

As you might not have the players slotted in these spots, it is a pretty safe bet in the first round you will be presented with similar decisions.

At 8, Santana and Lee might slide, but I bet no one else does. Are you telling me you have a player in mind or just letting the draft come to you? [/QUOTE]I'll take a crack at this. He wanted a certain player, while trying to attain as enviable a second round choice as possible. By your logic, perhaps the guy was M. Cabrera whom he could have had 8th while having a better slot in the second round than taking him 7th and still a better chance to get him than picking 9th. But, he views Cabrera as not much better than a 7th round pick at best and doesn't want to take him any earlier.

In which case he'll go to 2 and 1 where his preferred player is probably Pujols.

Failing that, he will go to 6 and 10 to again take a shot at Cabrera, though he risks taking him too early or not getting him all (which is why he'd prefer Pujols 2nd).

Similar, though to an even higher extreme, are 5 and 11, where in our hypothetical example, he will still hope for Cabrera.

If he can't get any of those he will go to 4 and 3 where he maybe wants Texeira.

Failing everything else he'll settle on the last spots in order, hoping to get as good a draft slot as possible.

[ January 24, 2006, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:32 pm

Originally posted by viper:

With the 8 pick, I do not have specific selection earmarked for round 1 in mind. It is my thought that as a draft progresses, picking in the middle has advantages that even outweigh having one of the first 2-3 picks. Runs are not a concern. You typiclally have players you feel have slipped for every pick. I have drafted on the edges twice and here are problems there. Or, he just wanted to pick as close to the middle as possible, assuming he can't get Pujols. My exercise is still fruitful as you can probably apply logic to almost any order.