What does it take to win Online Championship?

robotur · Post by **robotur** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:31 am

Drafted my online team last night and thought I came out with a stacked team but the fact is almost of the team have bomb squads. Is winning the 40K a crapshoot.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:26 am

post (or pm me) your team. i'll tell you if you have a chance, and if so, how good of a chance.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:28 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

post (or pm me) your team. i'll tell you if you have a chance, and if so, how good of a chance. Mark, I'm guessing you, nor any other person could even predict 2 out of the final top 10 if given the opportunity to see every single roster.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:34 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

post (or pm me) your team. i'll tell you if you have a chance, and if so, how good of a chance. Mark, I'm guessing you, nor any other person could even predict 2 out of the final top 10 if given the opportunity to see every single roster. [/QUOTE]maybe, maybe not. but, i can tell if the team has no shot, decent shot, or a good shot!

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:50 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

post (or pm me) your team. i'll tell you if you have a chance, and if so, how good of a chance. Mark, I'm guessing you, nor any other person could even predict 2 out of the final top 10 if given the opportunity to see every single roster. [/QUOTE]maybe, maybe not. but, i can tell if the team has no shot, decent shot, or a good shot! [/QUOTE]Please post the goals that you think will win?

Everyone's benches are very deep and the FAAB will be much easier. I would think that all goal number increase (accept average) by min 20%

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:09 am

Originally posted by Dub:

Everyone's benches are very deep and the FAAB will be much easier. I would think that all goal number increase (accept average) by min 20% no way they increase 20%. maybe 10%, but i'm not even sure of that. sorry.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:21 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

Everyone's benches are very deep and the FAAB will be much easier. I would think that all goal number increase (accept average) by min 20% no way they increase 20%. maybe 10%, but i'm not even sure of that. sorry. [/QUOTE]My est ~ 10% for sb/hr, 3-5% for r/rbi, couple pts BA; for pitchers 5% for the counting stats and 0.10 and 0.05 off era and whip.

robotur · Post by **robotur** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:23 am

an example of how shallow leagues are. cody ross wzs not drafted in our league last night. geez, wont he hit close to 30 homers.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:32 am

Originally posted by robotur:

an example of how shallow leagues are. cody ross wzs not drafted in our league last night. geez, wont he hit close to 30 homers. No he won't.

robotur · Post by **robotur** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:28 am

maybe not 30 but he should come pretty close. the left field job is his to lose.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:39 am

Originally posted by robotur:

maybe not 30 but he should come pretty close. the left field job is his to lose. 20hr, 260-265 avg. there's a reason he's never been a full-timer

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:30 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by robotur:

an example of how shallow leagues are. cody ross wzs not drafted in our league last night. geez, wont he hit close to 30 homers. No he won't. [/QUOTE]Cmon, KJ, this is the time of year when every player is going to hit 30 hr's!

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:05 am

So, what is the actual targets to shoot for? I have my targets that I think it will take to be in the conversation of winning the 40K.

KJ, we are in the same online league from last weekend and I did projections for all the teams to see where we stood after the draft. I was wondering what targets you and GG think you need to hit to have a shot?

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:05 pm

One of the strong teams that I came across here looks like this....

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Ramon Hernandez CIN R16 P9

C John Baker FLA R26 P9

1B Prince Fielder MIL R2 P9

1B Ryan Garko CLE R24 P9

2B Kaz Matsui HOU R18 P9

SS Stephen Drew ARI R6 P9

SS Jhonny Peralta CLE R8 P9

3B David Wright NYM R1 P4

3B Alex Gordon KC R14 P9

3B Kevin Kouzmanoff SD R27 P4

OF Carl Crawford TB R3 P4

OF Alex Rios TOR R4 P9

OF Corey Hart MIL R5 P4

OF Jayson Werth PHI R10 P9

OF Jason Kubel MIN R21 P4

OF Luke Scott BAL R29 P4

SP James Shields TB R7 P4

SP Yovani Gallardo MIL R9 P4

SP Matt Cain SF R11 P4

SP Kevin Slowey MIN R13 P4

SP Scott Baker MIN R17 P4

SP Jair Jurrjens ATL R19 P4

SP Ian Snell PIT R23 P4

SP Oliver Perez NYM R25 P4

SP Mark Buehrle CHW R28 P9

RP Chad Qualls ARI R12 P9

RP Matt Lindstrom FLA R15 P4

RP Brad Ziegler OAK R20 P9

RP Joey Devine OAK R22 P9

RP Octavio Dotel CHW R30 P9

Parnelli · Post by **Parnelli** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:10 pm

What do you think about my team? Gekko or anybody.

C V Martinez

C B McCanns

1b C Delgado

2b Polanco

3b E Ecarcion

ss JJ Hardy

OF J Ellisbury

OF H Pence

Of R Spilbroghs

OF Choo Shin-soo

OF Delmond Young

MI C Utley

CI A Gordan

U Billy Butler

P T Lincecum

P R Harden

P D Haren

P J Sanchez

P Kawakami

P T Cahill

P J Motte

P F Francisco

P J Zimmerman

Bench

E Dukes

Randy Winn

A Castilla

D Braden

Bret Anderson

R Franklin

Trevor Hoffman

I think its a good team but not for sure?

Demarini2k5 · Post by **Demarini2k5** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:19 pm

this is a team I liked:

C Geovany Soto CHC R5 P3

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R19 P3

1B Prince Fielder MIL R2 P10

1B Carlos Pena TB R9 P3

2B Freddy Sanchez PIT R29 P3

SS Hanley Ramirez FLA R1 P3

SS Mike Aviles KC R14 P10

SS Yunel Escobar ATL R22 P10

3B Chone Figgins ANA R8 P10

3B Casey Blake LA R26 P10

OF Alex Rios TOR R4 P10

OF Chris Young ARI R10 P10

OF Delmon Young MIN R17 P3

OF Pat Burrell TB R18 P10

OF Ryan Spilborghs COL R21 P3

OF Adam Lind TOR R23 P3

OF Jordan Schafer ATL R25 P3

OF Jack Cust OAK R27 P3

OF Ryan Sweeney OAK R28 P10

SP CC Sabathia NYY R3 P3

SP Yovani Gallardo MIL R7 P3

SP Josh Johnson FLA R11 P3

SP Derek Lowe ATL R13 P3

SP Ryan Dempster CHC R15 P3

SP Erik Bedard SEA R16 P10

SP Ian Snell PIT R24 P10

RP Joakim Soria KC R6 P10

RP Chad Qualls ARI R12 P10

RP Carlos Marmol CHC R20 P10

RP Jose Arredondo ANA R30 P10

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:42 pm

Best team ever, you win

Ronald Esq · Post by **Ronald Esq** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:07 am

That most recent team posted is pretty solid, but the previous two are dime-a-dozen rosters, nothing special at all in the 12-teamers.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:07 am

I kinda thought this thread would embark on a journey to solve the target differences between a 15 team league and a 12 team league insofar as the overall.

Childs 20% rule has come close enough for targeting a 15 player, 390 team format...but I'd think with so many more teams, and 12 player leagues would have quite different targets.

I guess if no math wizards wish to tackle this...we can wait and see how it pans out this year, and go from there.

I had another question. I'm doing a live home league mixed auction tonight, is there a big difference in beginning of auction values of the top players when we only have 11 teams as opposed to 12???

Less money (260 auction dollars not in the mix due to missing team), and less roster (28 players for the missing team).

I'd guess the prices would fall off a bit...same supply of players, one less demand.

~Lance

[ April 04, 2009, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:53 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I kinda thought this thread would embark on a journey to solve the target differences between a 15 team league and a 12 team league insofar as the overall.

Childs 20% rule has come close enough for targeting a 15 player, 390 team format...but I'd think with so many more teams, and 12 player leagues would have quite different targets.

I guess if no math wizards wish to tackle this...we can wait and see how it pans out this year, and go from there.

I had another question. I'm doing a live home league mixed auction tonight, is there a big difference in beginning of auction values of the top players when we only have 11 teams as opposed to 12???

Less money (260 auction dollars not in the mix due to missing team), and less roster (28 players for the missing team).

I'd guess the prices would fall off a bit...same supply of players, one less demand.

~Lance Take the Main Event targerts and the 12 Team Targets Greg put out and figure out the % differnce... Should be to hard...

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:17 am

I have definitive stats targets per category, but no interest in sharing them... calculate any # you want, but with zero historical data in this format someone with good guesstimates would be a fool to post them

[ April 04, 2009, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Dyv ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:21 am

290hr

170sb

.281 avg should be the requirements for a contending team at least on offense

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:27 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

290hr

170sb

.281 avg should be the requirements for a contending team at least on offense great... I have 11 contending teams in my league

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:33 am

Originally posted by JohnZ:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

290hr

170sb

.281 avg should be the requirements for a contending team at least on offense great... I have 11 contending teams in my league

[/QUOTE]ya, you and your BS andrus projections. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: shoot me your team and i'll cut through all the BS projections u are using.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:34 am

let me guess you have ross down for 30 and francisco down for a 20/20 season.

can't wait for the curtain to come up on some of these teams.