Chicago League 4

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:08 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

much of your 5 and a half year data becomes invalid. BS there. i'm looking at all people from all cities. the info certainly is valid (except for people who have blinders on)

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:25 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

much of your 5 and a half year data becomes invalid. BS there. i'm looking at all people from all cities. the info certainly is valid (except for people who have blinders on)

[/QUOTE]Editing a full quote is BS when it is relative to the writers point. Whether or not you agree with the point being made.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:26 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

The two league championships that you have won have come against

1) The weakest league* in the history of the NFBC, and

2) One of the weakest cities* in the history of the NFBC

*based on parameters set forth by you in earlier posts.

no, no, no. use the entire 5 1/2 history of the event to show the weak Venue. we all know where that is. sorry, the data tells us so. [/QUOTE]If the same 195/300/390 people had all played in the same venue year after year you might be able to argue a point. As they have not, much of your 5 and a half year data becomes invalid. [/QUOTE]

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:27 am

Chicago "pranks" prepared for Gekko by Chicago 4-

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Re-enactment of the St Valentines Day massacre

Re-enactment of Mrs. O'Leary's cow at Gekko's hotel

Introducing Gekko to Al Capone's great-great grandson and "his little friend"

A day in the same sanitarium as Milton Bradley

A sight seeing tour revisiting President Obama's life

Being fitted for funny looking cement shoes while cruising Lake Michigan

Visiting the rooftop seats across from Wrigley. Chicago 4 saying you can't get the full effect unless you're closer to the edge

Having a pizza sent to the room with the faint aroma of almonds

[ July 15, 2009, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:56 am

doughboys- thanks. you are the best. navel- we already do have a meeting. did you miss it? better come next year so you can get your chance at the 100k. gotta be there for the rigged games. carl marx- the logic is wrong so my comparison fits. capitalism is a zero sum game. the best do well. this league to league to main just doesn't work sorry. these guys are good- pushing the others down. the bottom 5 in this league might win in ny!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:03 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Chicago "pranks" prepared for Gekko by Chicago 4-

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Re-enactment of the St Valentines Day massacre

Re-enactment of Mrs. O'Leary's cow at Gekko's hotel

Introducing Gekko to Al Capone's great-great grandson and "his little friend"

A day in the same sanitarium as Milton Bradley

A sight seeing tour revisiting President Obama's life

Being fitted for funny looking cement shoes while cruising Lake Michigan

Visiting the rooftop seats across from Wrigley. Chicago 4 saying you can't get the full effect unless you're closer to the edge

Having a pizza sent to the room with the faint aroma of almonds Good list. An important one was omitted:

Re-enactment of the Disco Demolition using printouts of Gekko's city-by-city statistics.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:38 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

much of your 5 and a half year data becomes invalid. BS there. i'm looking at all people from all cities. the info certainly is valid (except for people who have blinders on)

[/QUOTE]Editing a full quote is BS when it is relative to the writers point. Whether or not you agree with the point being made. [/QUOTE]i guess you think there should be separate MLB records for each "era". you know there should be records when the mound was higher and separate records when it was lower. how about separate MLB records for pre-steroid/post-steriods.

face it, 5 1/2 years of data is the best we have. if it said NY was the lay down city, i'd post that to. unfortunately, it doesn't

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:51 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

doughboys- thanks. you are the best. navel- we already do have a meeting. did you miss it? better come next year so you can get your chance at the 100k. gotta be there for the rigged games. carl marx- the logic is wrong so my comparison fits. capitalism is a zero sum game. the best do well. this league to league to main just doesn't work sorry. these guys are good- pushing the others down. the bottom 5 in this league might win in ny! and the brainless rants continue...priceless

meeting??? "rigged" games???? boy, i hope greg isn't trying to attract new NFBC players. headhunters is giving you a lot of very bad press Greg.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:52 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Chicago "pranks" prepared for Gekko by Chicago 4-

if headhunter was the mastermind, he'd end up "fitting" the cement shoes on himself. ROLMAO

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:12 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Chicago "pranks" prepared for Gekko by Chicago 4-

-----------------------------------------

Re-enactment of the St Valentines Day massacre

Re-enactment of Mrs. O'Leary's cow at Gekko's hotel

Introducing Gekko to Al Capone's great-great grandson and "his little friend"

A day in the same sanitarium as Milton Bradley

A sight seeing tour revisiting President Obama's life

Being fitted for funny looking cement shoes while cruising Lake Michigan

Visiting the rooftop seats across from Wrigley. Chicago 4 saying you can't get the full effect unless you're closer to the edge

Having a pizza sent to the room with the faint aroma of almonds Good list. An important one was omitted:

Re-enactment of the Disco Demolition using printouts of Gekko's city-by-city statistics. [/QUOTE]I aso could have added Gekko's revenge.

In 1932 after his "called shot", Babe Ruth, in the World Series, went around the bases at Wrigley Field pointing and jeering at Chicago players.

Maybe in 2011,after fullfilling his prophecy of winning it all in 2010, the guy from the New York drafts comes back to Chicago in 2011 pointing at, and jeering the Chicago faithful.

[ July 15, 2009, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:37 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote: i guess you think there should be separate MLB records for each "era". you know there should be records when the mound was higher and separate records when it was lower. how about separate MLB records for pre-steroid/post-steriods.

face it, 5 1/2 years of data is the best we have. if it said NY was the lay down city, i'd post that to. unfortunately, it doesn't

[/QB][/QUOTE]It’s funny. In the past I’ve watched people discuss/argue with you about this topic. I asked myself, “why do people continue to bang their head against a wall”

Now I know why.

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:50 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

Rich – Think of it this way: Suppose one specific city for WHATEVER reason has a greater % of owners with less baseball skills than the other cities. How would that show up in the standings? I think it would show up by the reasons I’ve listed:

•greater % of poorly ranked teams in the overall event

•greater % of highly ranked teams in the overall event

How do YOU think it would show up?

If someone asked you which league you’d want to be in based on the info below, what would you say?

League A has 5 teams in the bottom 90 teams

League B has 0 teams in the bottom 90 teams

Hands down, sign me up EVERY time for league A. Basically, top teams in Chicago LG 4 are not competing against 14 other teams. They are only competing against maybe 10 or 11 other teams. You might have 15 active owners in that league, but I guarantee you that some of the very poor teams are not spending much time on their teams. And this, of course, breeds Superpower teams, as demonstrated by the data presented. What league would you rather be in:

league A: 4 teams in the top 20 in the overall

league B: 0 teams in the top 20 in the overall

There are multiple ways to look at this. Also, you can NOT make a generalization that league success is constructed from bottom up. It's only part of the equation for success. I believe I could have drafted a simliar team in many different leagues this year, Chicago or New York. For the overall standings, all good teams benefit from poor teams in the competition. I don't think just because there are 3 "poor" teams in my league, that that benefits me so much, it has made me and 3 other teams a top 20 overall team.

Fun discussion even though gekko is wrong.

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:58 pm

If you are not an owner in Chicago League 4 or ranked in the top 20 overall, you are not allowed to post in this thread anymore due to NFBC statute 1.11.22.33. (unless you plan to draft in Chicago next year)

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:08 pm

Originally posted by rkulaski:

(unless you plan to draft in Chicago next year) Sounds like fun!

GG, you down for this? We can party like it's 2005. Bring Jason Z...

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:10 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by rkulaski:

(unless you plan to draft in Chicago next year) Sounds like fun!

GG, you down for this? We can party like it's 2005. Bring Jason Z... [/QUOTE]I'm in. Let's callup Chitown to the big lges next season.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:00 am

2010...Chicago gets called up from AAA

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:12 am

The LIFETIME rankings of the bottom 6 teams in Chicago 4:

176

339

375

423

452

504

Head 2 Head · Post by **Head 2 Head** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:46 am

I noticed that the team in last in Chi4 drafted Webb as his first SP (6 of the 8 bottom teams in overall have Webb). I think you will all agree that Webb wasn't an awful pick (on draft day). I also believe that you will all agree that having your ACE (fourth round) SP perform like Webb has (or rather has not) this year will make reaching your Pitching goals very difficult. This team also compounded his pitching issues with BJ Ryan as his third pitcher. Again I will say when 2 of your top 3 pitchers drafted failing like these two it will be a long season.

I think you are wrong to believe that because this owner "missed" on two of his top three pitchers in 2009 that he will "miss" again in 2010.

Also when one team has drafted two “misses” that means the 14 teams didn’t get these players. Add in first round pick of Sizemore and you have a recipe for a long season.

Another “bad” team had major time loss injuries to five of their first 7 picks. Again these injuries didn’t end up on other teams.

I certain agree with Gigi that “ if you have some teams that are very poor for whatever reason (bad luck, bad managers, bad picks, just don't have enough fantasy skillz), that league (on average) will breed superpower teams.”

I don’t believe that these “bad picks” (in retrospect) = “bad managers” or “lack of fantasy skillz” and are more of a result of “Bad luck”.

I still stand by my view that the Chicago (along with Orlando and Phone), does not have any “Dead Teams” and LV and NY can not make that claim. Every stat accumulated by the four Chicago 4 teams in the top 20 has been earned.

Would love to have more then four tables in Chicago next year, but I am thinking about going to NY as I still believe that is where the most “dead money” plays.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:43 am

come to chicago.. the more the merrier...

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:45 am

maybe next year there will be more people than just me and Dave Van Der Stuyf by ourselves in the big room for the Super Draft...

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:49 am

Alright. I'm just gonna let it go. If I have time, I'll look at the #'s at the end of the season. Good luck everyone

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:42 pm

Still windy after all these years! (in every way...Obama, CHI league 4

, etc)

"Why is Chicago called the "Windy City"?

Most people believe that Chicago got its nickname from its prevailing winds, but that isn't the case.

In 1893, Chicago hosted the World's Columbian Exposition, celebrating the four hundredth anniversary of America's discovery. The city's aggressive promotional campaign for the event offended the people of New York, whose press nicknamed it the Windy City to mock its bragging ways.

The moniker stuck, but, fortunately for Chicago, its original meaning has been forgotten by most."

...until now!!!

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:16 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Still windy after all these years! (in every way...Obama, CHI league 4

, etc)

"Why is Chicago called the "Windy City"?

Most people believe that Chicago got its nickname from its prevailing winds, but that isn't the case.

In 1893, Chicago hosted the World's Columbian Exposition, celebrating the four hundredth anniversary of America's discovery. The city's aggressive promotional campaign for the event offended the people of New York, whose press nicknamed it the Windy City to mock its bragging ways.

The moniker stuck, but, fortunately for Chicago, its original meaning has been forgotten by most."

...until now!!!

The following "windy city" explanation is from the Freeborn County Standard of Albert Lea, Minnesota, on November 20, 1892

“ Chicago has been called the “windy” city, the term being used metaphorically to make out that Chicagoans were braggarts. The city is losing this reputation, for the reason that as people got acquainted with it they found most of her claims to be backed up by facts. As usual, people go to extremes in this thing also, and one can tell a stranger almost anything about Chicago today and feel that he believes it implicitly.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:35 pm

The way that CHI has won the NFBC the last two years, and the way they speak on the MB, and the freaking SIZE of the Chicago metropolitan area...you'd think they'd have like 14 tables set up for the main event...not 4.

Wind bags!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:11 pm

Whatchoo talkin bout, Willis Tower?