Jose Reyes to Marlins??

Fourslot40 · Post by **Fourslot40** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:31 am

Jose Reyes has agreed to terms with the Miami Marlins, according to Dino Costa of SiriusXM.

Terms haven't been disclosed, though we know Miami made a pair of large offers to Reyes and Albert Pujols over the last week. Jorge Sedano of 790 AM The Ticket in Miami reported earlier that Reyes signing with the Marlins is "almost a done deal." Both reports haven't been backed by the club's beat writers -- yet. Reyes was seeking a Carl Crawford-type deal (seven years, $142 million). If the reports are indeed true, Hanley Ramirez would likely shift to third base next season. Reyes is coming of an impressive .337/.384/.493 campaign with the Mets.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:04 am

This has not been confirmed by Reyes, his agent, or anybody from the Marlins.....

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:21 am

Originally posted by Fourslot40:

...... If the reports are indeed true, Hanley Ramirez would likely shift to third base next season............. I saw Hanley on an interview yesterday and they asked him about Reyes.

He said Reyes was .....'a good player'.....but that I (Hanley) am a shortstop

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:15 am

According to the NY Post, if the Mets fail to re-sign Jose Reyes, Daniel Murphy will likely start at second base in 2012 and Ruben Tejada would become the team's regular shortstop.

Wow! Makes you kind of sad for all the Mets fans...you know...Glenn and that other guy...

76erfan · Post by **76erfan** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:19 am

yeah no way to spin that news as "positive"

Jarbel · Post by **Jarbel** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:30 am

Here's my bold prediction.

Jose Reyes to the Yankees. Move Jeter to third, Arod everyday DH. What better way to keep those old legs fresh

Arod could spell Jeter during day games, only time they would be screwed would be interleague games in NL parks. This would also be they way to get Posada out and also the back up plan when jeter calls it quits in the next 2-3 years.

I also think that the yankees will overpay in a bidding war with the Red Sox.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:05 am

Posada is already out, but you're right, that is bold.

Jarbel · Post by **Jarbel** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:12 am

Yes I know Jorge is out, but to solidify him being out. Not that they would've done some "mutual" agreement and keep him as a Yank.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:41 am

I don't understand solidify, he's gone, but enough semantics.

Under your scenario, what would be the Yankees plan for Jesus Montero?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:57 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

According to the NY Post, if the Mets fail to re-sign Jose Reyes, Daniel Murphy will likely start at second base in 2012 and Ruben Tejada would become the team's regular shortstop.

Wow! Makes you kind of sad for all the Mets fans...you know...Glenn and that other guy...

The old adage was that a team can be judged at how they look up the middle of the diamond-

Catcher- Thole

2B- Murphy

SS- Tejada

CF- Pagan

Ouch, babe.

Jarbel · Post by **Jarbel** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:48 am

Let Martin go have Montero catch until Romine is ready. Arod will be 37 and Jeter 38 this year. They arent getting younger, and giving time to dh would keep them fresher.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:14 am

Originally posted by Jarbel:

Let Martin go have Montero catch until Romine is ready. Arod will be 37 and Jeter 38 this year. They arent getting younger, and giving time to dh would keep them fresher. Russel Martin is under contract for 2012

76erfan · Post by **76erfan** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:16 am

dont sleep on the phils here. they want to get younger at SS and they can afford reyes and let rollins walk.

Ando · Post by **Ando** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:17 am

So...removing Martin from equation leaves you two catchers with 72 CAREER innings caught in the majors. Not exactly a recipe for success; especially in the Bronx.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:52 am

Reyes to the Marlins (new stadium push).

Rollins to the Brewers (sooth the fans for Fielder walking).

Mets to the crapper.

Phillies, Braves, and St. Louis "fighting" over Furcal, Barmes and Gonzalez.

It is a good year to be a FA shortstop.

[ November 15, 2011, 12:55 PM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]

Jarbel · Post by **Jarbel** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:14 am

Martin is not under contract for 2012 unless he signed and I missed it. He just released a statement saying he would like to be back in 2012. Montero start get a cheap experienced veteran as your back up ( cervelli?) Have Romine play AAA gor 2012. Yes there isnt the experience but sometimes teams will /have to take that gamble. Arrenciba, Lucroy, etc..

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:29 am

Originally posted by Jarbel:

Martin is not under contract for 2012 unless he signed and I missed it. He just released a statement saying he would like to be back in 2012. Montero start get a cheap experienced veteran as your back up ( cervelli?) Have Romine play AAA gor 2012. Yes there isnt the experience but sometimes teams will /have to take that gamble. Arrenciba, Lucroy, etc.. You are correct, I believe. Martin is not yet under contract, but I bet the Yanks do resign him (I saw some projections that it would take about $6.0m) and use Montero at DH. That seems to make the most sense as Montero has the reputation of having poor defense.

Jeter stays at shortstop next year due to the crazy contract he signed. ARod stays at third:

Determined to bounce back from an injury-plagued, lackluster season, Alex Rodriguez began his offseason workout routine three weeks earlier than normal. "The Yankees made two big moves this offseason," Rodriguez said. "Keeping CC, and I expect to be who I have been in the past." A-Rod's initial workout plan involves strengthening and stabilizing a right knee that was surgically-repaired for a torn meniscus in mid-July and never felt totally right afterward. He plans to lose at least five pounds in order to get lighter, more flexible, and more agile. "There is no secret that I am getting older," Rodriguez said. "But when I come in fit, ready and motivated, then age is just a number. … There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I will be myself, like always." NY Post.

Let the spin doctors begin.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:43 am

Ultimately, Reyes signing with the Yanks makes little sense. The Yankees would have to prepare Jeter and ARod way ahead of time for a move of that magnitude. Real life, you just don't pisss off two mainstays in your lineup to sign Reyes.

I don't think Boston signs him either since Scutaro has been re-signed, Lowrie is still there, and Iglesias is still at AAA. Reyes is clearly the better option here, but the Red Sox do not want to lead the league in lead off men.

These teams have so much of an advantage in the pocket book that folks will even try to shoehorn a big time free agent onto their teams.

Offensively, they're good to go.

They need pitching, like most teams.

Winston's Empire · Post by **Winston's Empire** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:50 pm

Agree with Dough here. Reyes to the Yanks won't happen. They don't need both him and ARod in wheelchairs at the end of their contracts!

Martin in my opinion will be back with the Yanks. He handled the staff pretty well and was above average at the plate. Cervelli can't hit, Montero might not be able to catch, making Martin a valuable player.

Yankees need a #2 pitcher... BAD.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:15 pm

6 Years, $111M

Winston's Empire · Post by **Winston's Empire** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:40 pm

Reyes, Hanley and Stanton should be able to produce a few runs! WOW! Now if they are serious about going after Pujols or Fielder, watch out for Miami NL East!

Baseball Furies · Post by **Baseball Furies** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:03 pm

Six years, $106 million...Coincidentally, this just so happens to be the same number of fans including myself that the Mets just lost for the same length of time but with an option for an eighth, ninth, and tenth year as well

Can't wait to see how the morons who run this debacle of a circus try to spin this one in the media tomorrow

Well, at least there are the new f!@#$%^ uniforms and the moved in fences to look forward to this season. F THE CRIMINALS AND THEIR GREED THAT DESTROYED MY TEAM!

Really wish I could swear on this thing to vent my frustration and anger at his moment even more...Well, now off the to the Mets web-site. This should be good...

rockitsauce · Post by **rockitsauce** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:05 pm

Jarbel wrote:Here's my bold prediction.

Jose Reyes to the Yankees. Move Jeter to third, Arod everyday DH. What better way to keep those old legs fresh

Arod could spell Jeter during day games, only time they would be screwed would be interleague games in NL parks. This would also be they way to get Posada out and also the back up plan when jeter calls it quits in the next 2-3 years.

I also think that the yankees will overpay in a bidding war with the Red Sox.

The problem w/ that is I believe w/ Houston's move to the AL there will be a lot more of those interleague games. At least I recall reading something to that effect. There was even some mumblings about FINALLY getting rid of the DH. I know that's pure speculation, but the Astros move will definitely affect the MLB schedule.

wahooblue · Post by **wahooblue** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:38 am

Nice move for the Marlins,Hanley looks like he will be going to 3b or will they ask him to start thinking about playing CF ?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:08 am

Here's some feelings on the Reyes signing, as tweeted by MLBTradeRumors.com:

Jose Reyes Signing Reactions
By Luke Adams [December 5, 2011 at 9:37am CST]

Before the Winter Meetings officially got underway, the Marlins struck the week's first major blow, agreeing to terms with Jose Reyes on a six-year, $106MM contract. Despite the shortstop's injury history, MLBTR's Tim Dierkes likes the signing for Miami, since Reyes "doesn't have to be amazing or play 162 games a year to be worth $17.67MM annually." Here's a round-up of a few more instant reactions to the deal:

* While the Marlins took a risk committing over $100MM to Reyes, he has the potential to turn into a genuine bargain, writes Dave Cameron of Fangraphs.
* Yahoo's Jeff Passan thinks the contract matches up favorably to Carl Crawford's deal, although "the idea of budget-conscious Mets and free-spending Marlins takes a minute to process."
* ESPN.com's Keith Law (Insider link) views the contract as a big risk for Miami, arguing that, given Reyes' injury history, it seems "wildly optimistic" to assume he'll still be a viable shortstop by the end of the deal.
* In another Insider piece, ESPN's Jim Bowden writes that Reyes provides the Marlins with a "much-needed dose of star power." Whereas Law saw the Mets as major winners in the process for avoiding a long-term risk, Bowden considers them the big loser in the deal.
* The Mets have to rebuild their credibility along with their roster after losing Reyes, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
* The Mets are justified in letting Reyes go, but their approach made it look like they intended to finish second in the bidding, writes John Harper of the New York Daily News.
* Adam Rubin of ESPN New York assigns the blame for Reyes' departure from New York on the Wilpons and Bernie Madoff, among others, rather than the player or GM.
* When Reyes and Hanley Ramirez are both healthy and productive, they'll be perfect fits for the style of play preferred by new manager Ozzie Guillen, says Buster Olney of ESPN.com (Insider link).
* Matthew Cerrone of MetsBlog respects GM Sandy Alderson's approach on Reyes, but is disappointed to see the Mets star snapped up by a division rival.

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