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Great Job NFFC TEAM!!! Draft went smooth as silk in NY...not 1 problem!! Facilitators were great, they new all the players drafted and were perfect with the 1 min clock!!! couldnt ask for more, good luck to all, may there be few injuries and many homers!!!!!
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I'll second it - facilitators in NY 3 were great - kept the draft moving, communicated well and DEFINITELY KNEW THE PLAYERS. Worked the clock well. Outstanding work!
Also loved the girls from MVP Sportsbook......
Overall experience today A+
Also loved the girls from MVP Sportsbook......
Overall experience today A+
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Let me third this post. All those connected with NY6 really knew their stuff. All went smooth and I think we were the first done. Andrew was the main facilitator and I would hate to be in a league with him as he seems very knowledgeable on players. He also kept thing moving and made sure everyone heard the names of those players drafted. The guy who posted the names - I didn't get his name - was really fast on getting the names posted. It made the whole draft very enjoyable.
I also liked the mini-draft board we all signed.
The only complaint I have on the MVP Sportsbook girl is that they seemed to leave a bit early.
The whole Krause crew was friendly and helpful and they stayed until the end.
I also liked the mini-draft board we all signed.
The only complaint I have on the MVP Sportsbook girl is that they seemed to leave a bit early.
The whole Krause crew was friendly and helpful and they stayed until the end.
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Tampa was also very smooth.
Good job Tom and staff
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Good job Tom and staff
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Agree with previous comments, however, one pet peeve for me remains. The draft boards used are almost useless for many at the tables, given the distance the seats are away, the small size of the boards themselves and the poor lighting on them.
Over the course of the draft, the time wasted by having to write all the selections down and players asking again what picks were made because the stickers cannot be seen really adds up.
I know I have requested this before, but I still maintain that here in the 2000's, leaving stickers behind and using laptops, video projectors and screens would not be a high-risk proposition and would surely enhance the drafting experience.
Yesterday, one drafter, sitting in the #9 position, told me he paid to have his son co-manage. He knew he wouldn't be able to see, so he used the young man primarily to run up to the front of the room to keep track of the board for him.
Another drafter, in the #1 position ostensibly closest to the board, was equally unahppy. At one of the breaks, he had me sit down in his chair to demonstrate how difficult it was to see the right side of the wavy board even from the very front of the room.
Surely with the NFFC/NFBC established as viable ongoing entities, the investment required to add projectors would be minimized over the long haul. Or, since the host hotels run business meetings for a living, subcontract the equipment needs to them. Do it however you want, but please do it.
In closing, echoing the others, the NFBC draft was again a smooth experience, but even so, this one improvement should be made.
Over the course of the draft, the time wasted by having to write all the selections down and players asking again what picks were made because the stickers cannot be seen really adds up.
I know I have requested this before, but I still maintain that here in the 2000's, leaving stickers behind and using laptops, video projectors and screens would not be a high-risk proposition and would surely enhance the drafting experience.
Yesterday, one drafter, sitting in the #9 position, told me he paid to have his son co-manage. He knew he wouldn't be able to see, so he used the young man primarily to run up to the front of the room to keep track of the board for him.
Another drafter, in the #1 position ostensibly closest to the board, was equally unahppy. At one of the breaks, he had me sit down in his chair to demonstrate how difficult it was to see the right side of the wavy board even from the very front of the room.
Surely with the NFFC/NFBC established as viable ongoing entities, the investment required to add projectors would be minimized over the long haul. Or, since the host hotels run business meetings for a living, subcontract the equipment needs to them. Do it however you want, but please do it.
In closing, echoing the others, the NFBC draft was again a smooth experience, but even so, this one improvement should be made.
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Originally posted by brian:
Agree with previous comments, however, one pet peeve for me remains. The draft boards used are almost useless for many at the tables, given the distance the seats are away, the small size of the boards themselves and the poor lighting on them.
Over the course of the draft, the time wasted by having to write all the selections down and players asking again what picks were made because the stickers cannot be seen really adds up.
I know I have requested this before, but I still maintain that here in the 2000's, leaving stickers behind and using laptops, video projectors and screens would not be a high-risk proposition and would surely enhance the drafting experience.
Yesterday, one drafter, sitting in the #9 position, told me he paid to have his son co-manage. He knew he wouldn't be able to see, so he used the young man primarily to run up to the front of the room to keep track of the board for him.
Another drafter, in the #1 position ostensibly closest to the board, was equally unahppy. At one of the breaks, he had me sit down in his chair to demonstrate how difficult it was to see the right side of the wavy board even from the very front of the room.
Surely with the NFFC/NFBC established as viable ongoing entities, the investment required to add projectors would be minimized over the long haul. Or, since the host hotels run business meetings for a living, subcontract the equipment needs to them. Do it however you want, but please do it.
In closing, echoing the others, the NFBC draft was again a smooth experience, but even so, this one improvement should be made. thats why they gave everyone a miniature DRAFT BOARD SHEET..this is used to WRITE down the names after a person is called, its very useful you know....really there is no need for a large draft board, it just looks nice in between brakes and at the end of the draft...i for one couldnt see the board, but thats why they give you your own draft board sheet...if you are so engrossed in who to pick, that you didnt have time to write down each called name on a draft sheet, then you were unprepared for this type of draft.....there is no need for the bells and whistles of overhead projectors and mandatory computers.....that would just complicate things and provide more problem areas....
PS..they also provide a draft workspace in every magazine (its there to use, not to admire its layout)...if you needed the Main draft Board for ANYTHING, then you didnt use the proper resourced given..... Could the "low-tech" nature of the draft have contributed to its smoothness? Most Definately.
Agree with previous comments, however, one pet peeve for me remains. The draft boards used are almost useless for many at the tables, given the distance the seats are away, the small size of the boards themselves and the poor lighting on them.
Over the course of the draft, the time wasted by having to write all the selections down and players asking again what picks were made because the stickers cannot be seen really adds up.
I know I have requested this before, but I still maintain that here in the 2000's, leaving stickers behind and using laptops, video projectors and screens would not be a high-risk proposition and would surely enhance the drafting experience.
Yesterday, one drafter, sitting in the #9 position, told me he paid to have his son co-manage. He knew he wouldn't be able to see, so he used the young man primarily to run up to the front of the room to keep track of the board for him.
Another drafter, in the #1 position ostensibly closest to the board, was equally unahppy. At one of the breaks, he had me sit down in his chair to demonstrate how difficult it was to see the right side of the wavy board even from the very front of the room.
Surely with the NFFC/NFBC established as viable ongoing entities, the investment required to add projectors would be minimized over the long haul. Or, since the host hotels run business meetings for a living, subcontract the equipment needs to them. Do it however you want, but please do it.
In closing, echoing the others, the NFBC draft was again a smooth experience, but even so, this one improvement should be made. thats why they gave everyone a miniature DRAFT BOARD SHEET..this is used to WRITE down the names after a person is called, its very useful you know....really there is no need for a large draft board, it just looks nice in between brakes and at the end of the draft...i for one couldnt see the board, but thats why they give you your own draft board sheet...if you are so engrossed in who to pick, that you didnt have time to write down each called name on a draft sheet, then you were unprepared for this type of draft.....there is no need for the bells and whistles of overhead projectors and mandatory computers.....that would just complicate things and provide more problem areas....
PS..they also provide a draft workspace in every magazine (its there to use, not to admire its layout)...if you needed the Main draft Board for ANYTHING, then you didnt use the proper resourced given..... Could the "low-tech" nature of the draft have contributed to its smoothness? Most Definately.
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The 3 draft facilitators at NY 7 were great, especially the lead gentleman who knew all of the players, positions and teams.
The ability to be in a separate room, away from the large setting was particularly appealing as picks from adjacent leagues could not be heard.
The draft board sheet provided to each owner was an ideal way to record and monitor picks; the big board at the front was visible and useful in case you "needed to catch up".
I believe the use of cell phones needs to be disallowed at the draft; listening to a co-owner of another team update his friend about his picks during the draft makes for an extremely distracting and annoying situation.
In addition, either let ALL owners who want to use laptops be plugged in or disallow them. To see some owners abiding by the rule in some leagues and others not, is not fair. There are plenty of outlets in each room for those who want to use it.
Overall an excellent experience. Good luck to all and most importantly, have fun!
The ability to be in a separate room, away from the large setting was particularly appealing as picks from adjacent leagues could not be heard.
The draft board sheet provided to each owner was an ideal way to record and monitor picks; the big board at the front was visible and useful in case you "needed to catch up".
I believe the use of cell phones needs to be disallowed at the draft; listening to a co-owner of another team update his friend about his picks during the draft makes for an extremely distracting and annoying situation.
In addition, either let ALL owners who want to use laptops be plugged in or disallow them. To see some owners abiding by the rule in some leagues and others not, is not fair. There are plenty of outlets in each room for those who want to use it.
Overall an excellent experience. Good luck to all and most importantly, have fun!
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I was probably the guy with the #9 slot who had his son there. I think he misheard me on "paying my son" to see the board. I had no trouble seeing the board although the 5-point list of player eligibility that was handed out could have been written in greek for all I could tell. Glad I didn't need it.
I was a bit concerned being as far away as possible from the board but I didn't have a problem. Nice to know for future years. I would much prefer a board to a projector. I seriously doubt the clarity trying to show all 15 teams and all 30 rounds would be possible. And I want to be able to see the whole draft. My take is that you do not have time to write down every pick on a sheet but that is me. The color coding makes checking things very easy.
And my son is one hell of a lot more than a seeing eye dog. You would probably prefer not being in any league with him - trust me on that.
I was a bit concerned being as far away as possible from the board but I didn't have a problem. Nice to know for future years. I would much prefer a board to a projector. I seriously doubt the clarity trying to show all 15 teams and all 30 rounds would be possible. And I want to be able to see the whole draft. My take is that you do not have time to write down every pick on a sheet but that is me. The color coding makes checking things very easy.
And my son is one hell of a lot more than a seeing eye dog. You would probably prefer not being in any league with him - trust me on that.
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Originally posted by brian:
Agree with previous comments, however, one pet peeve for me remains. The draft boards used are almost useless for many at the tables, given the distance the seats are away, the small size of the boards themselves and the poor lighting on them.
Over the course of the draft, the time wasted by having to write all the selections down and players asking again what picks were made because the stickers cannot be seen really adds up.
I know I have requested this before, but I still maintain that here in the 2000's, leaving stickers behind and using laptops, video projectors and screens would not be a high-risk proposition and would surely enhance the drafting experience.
Yesterday, one drafter, sitting in the #9 position, told me he paid to have his son co-manage. He knew he wouldn't be able to see, so he used the young man primarily to run up to the front of the room to keep track of the board for him.
Another drafter, in the #1 position ostensibly closest to the board, was equally unahppy. At one of the breaks, he had me sit down in his chair to demonstrate how difficult it was to see the right side of the wavy board even from the very front of the room.
Surely with the NFFC/NFBC established as viable ongoing entities, the investment required to add projectors would be minimized over the long haul. Or, since the host hotels run business meetings for a living, subcontract the equipment needs to them. Do it however you want, but please do it.
In closing, echoing the others, the NFBC draft was again a smooth experience, but even so, this one improvement should be made. I don't see how projectors would help any. I think the biggest improvement Brian is having a Co-Manager. As Fandango stated, the sheet they provided us was excellent in keeping tracks of things.....as long as you had a co-pilot.
Sh*te, the guys next to me had 2 co-pilots! However, I didn't raise the issue because the 3rd guy seemed to be an innocent bystander more than anything.
Things went great in NY#3, the main guy new all the players quite well.
My only knock on was the close proximity of other leagues and hearing names go off...and you just pray and hope no one heard that particular name. Also, next year there should be 1 SINGLE Position & Draft Eligibility List.
[ March 19, 2006, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: nydownunder ]
Agree with previous comments, however, one pet peeve for me remains. The draft boards used are almost useless for many at the tables, given the distance the seats are away, the small size of the boards themselves and the poor lighting on them.
Over the course of the draft, the time wasted by having to write all the selections down and players asking again what picks were made because the stickers cannot be seen really adds up.
I know I have requested this before, but I still maintain that here in the 2000's, leaving stickers behind and using laptops, video projectors and screens would not be a high-risk proposition and would surely enhance the drafting experience.
Yesterday, one drafter, sitting in the #9 position, told me he paid to have his son co-manage. He knew he wouldn't be able to see, so he used the young man primarily to run up to the front of the room to keep track of the board for him.
Another drafter, in the #1 position ostensibly closest to the board, was equally unahppy. At one of the breaks, he had me sit down in his chair to demonstrate how difficult it was to see the right side of the wavy board even from the very front of the room.
Surely with the NFFC/NFBC established as viable ongoing entities, the investment required to add projectors would be minimized over the long haul. Or, since the host hotels run business meetings for a living, subcontract the equipment needs to them. Do it however you want, but please do it.
In closing, echoing the others, the NFBC draft was again a smooth experience, but even so, this one improvement should be made. I don't see how projectors would help any. I think the biggest improvement Brian is having a Co-Manager. As Fandango stated, the sheet they provided us was excellent in keeping tracks of things.....as long as you had a co-pilot.
Sh*te, the guys next to me had 2 co-pilots! However, I didn't raise the issue because the 3rd guy seemed to be an innocent bystander more than anything.
Things went great in NY#3, the main guy new all the players quite well.
My only knock on was the close proximity of other leagues and hearing names go off...and you just pray and hope no one heard that particular name. Also, next year there should be 1 SINGLE Position & Draft Eligibility List.
[ March 19, 2006, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: nydownunder ]
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Kudos to facilitators from N.Y.league #4.great job by Zack and his crew.things went along smoothly and i had no trouble keeping up with the names of players being called out.my only concern is with the closeness of the seats and players.too many times i heard names of players being drafted from the other tables.while this might not affect an individual players strategy it does give players an insight on what hot or trendy players are being taken early or late in the drafts.maybe the nfbc staff can get an extra room or two to spread out the draft a little more.overall though it was a great experience and good luck to everyone this season.
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NY 6 WENT GREAT I THINK WE WERE THE 1ST DRAFT COMPLETED,,,THE 2 FACILITATORS WERE GREAT AND THE DRAFTEES WERE ALL GOOD,,THE ONLY THING WHICH I AGREE ON WAS THAT THE BOARDS AND STICKERS SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIGGER,,IT WAS VERY HARD TO SEE THE NAMES,,,I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION TO ASSIGN 1 MVP GIRL WITH EACH DRAFT,,,THEY CAN HOLD UP THE NAME OF THE DRAFTED PERSON AND WALK AROUND THE TABLES WITH IT,,,JUST LIKE A RING GIRL
LOL THE DRAFT WOULD TAKE TEN HOURS
LOL THE DRAFT WOULD TAKE TEN HOURS
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New York 1 was run with a rating of 10 !!!! Any of the complaints such as small board, too loud can be fixed. The first prize of those two girls at the front door is magnificent.....
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Regarding hearing names being called out at the other draft tables:
At NY 3 our facilitator would quietly say the name drafted to each of the 3 tables. If all facilitators did this you have eliminated that issue completely. In fact, those were the exact instructions to the facilitators - I happened to be sitting in my seat next to where the NFBC people were giving the last minute instructions to all facilitators.
The draft next to us had a much louder voiced facilitator who we could very clearly hear (along with his corny jokes).
It does mess with your mind when you're thinking of picking a player and then you hear his name barked out as a "reminder" to everyone else. But also - I found myself double checking my sheet to see if someone was picked because I remembered hearing the name called - just not at our draft.
Once again - a simple to solve issue if the facilitator does his job as instructed.
At NY 3 our facilitator would quietly say the name drafted to each of the 3 tables. If all facilitators did this you have eliminated that issue completely. In fact, those were the exact instructions to the facilitators - I happened to be sitting in my seat next to where the NFBC people were giving the last minute instructions to all facilitators.
The draft next to us had a much louder voiced facilitator who we could very clearly hear (along with his corny jokes).
It does mess with your mind when you're thinking of picking a player and then you hear his name barked out as a "reminder" to everyone else. But also - I found myself double checking my sheet to see if someone was picked because I remembered hearing the name called - just not at our draft.
Once again - a simple to solve issue if the facilitator does his job as instructed.
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Agree with those stating there should be seperate rooms for each draft.
I helped facilitate Tampa 1 and we experienced what you guys are insuating. I cannot count how many times we had a player selected in Tampa 1 only to hear them called out less than 2 mins later from Tampa 2. For as many times as this did occur, it has to warrant some type of a thought to correct this possible "problem".
No one can say for sure if the names being called out affected the Tampa 2 selections, but I would definitely say the argument has some merit.
And for all the antagonistic people, this occurred deep into the draft, not in the beginning when you would expect it to happen.
I helped facilitate Tampa 1 and we experienced what you guys are insuating. I cannot count how many times we had a player selected in Tampa 1 only to hear them called out less than 2 mins later from Tampa 2. For as many times as this did occur, it has to warrant some type of a thought to correct this possible "problem".
No one can say for sure if the names being called out affected the Tampa 2 selections, but I would definitely say the argument has some merit.
And for all the antagonistic people, this occurred deep into the draft, not in the beginning when you would expect it to happen.
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Originally posted by :
overall, great experience. separate rooms for
each draft is a must. a bit more food or a least some more drinks would have been nice.
in terms of the the guy in the 9th spot with his son. yikes, i think he can run his own team right now and beat half the teams there.
also found it interesting all the people using
rotolab to assist in drafting. good luck to all since there was NO free food ever before, I think those of us who have done this both years were quite pleased with the "spread". Many thanks to ESPN Mobile
[ March 19, 2006, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: viper ]
overall, great experience. separate rooms for
each draft is a must. a bit more food or a least some more drinks would have been nice.
in terms of the the guy in the 9th spot with his son. yikes, i think he can run his own team right now and beat half the teams there.
also found it interesting all the people using
rotolab to assist in drafting. good luck to all since there was NO free food ever before, I think those of us who have done this both years were quite pleased with the "spread". Many thanks to ESPN Mobile
[ March 19, 2006, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: viper ]
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BTW, I wasn't the one calling out the names , but I do agree it was done to loudly by all in Tampa.
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NY#2 draft was OK, but there were issues. We had three facilitators and they all had a pretty good knowledge of the players. The pace of the proceedings was too quick, especially given the difficulty to hear the selections and read the draft board. We routinely had instances where let's say team 4 makes a selection. While the board-man is looking for the sticker for team four's selection, team 5 makes a pick. Then team 6 makes a pick, team seven is told he's on the clock while team 4's selection is just being placed on the board. My understanding is that the clock should not start until the prior pick
(and all other picks for that matter) has been posted on the board for all to see. That's the way it was done the first two years that I drafted in the NFBC. We certainly should not be going two and three picks ahead of what has been posted.
It wasn't constantly like this, because some people would take their time to collect themselves and determine their next pick. That said, it was very difficult to keep up. We had a fair amount of names being requested who had already been taken and it is easy to see why.
(and all other picks for that matter) has been posted on the board for all to see. That's the way it was done the first two years that I drafted in the NFBC. We certainly should not be going two and three picks ahead of what has been posted.
It wasn't constantly like this, because some people would take their time to collect themselves and determine their next pick. That said, it was very difficult to keep up. We had a fair amount of names being requested who had already been taken and it is easy to see why.
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Originally posted by kgrady:
NY#2 draft was OK, but there were issues. We had three facilitators and they all had a pretty good knowledge of the players. The pace of the proceedings was too quick, especially given the difficulty to hear the selections and read the draft board. We routinely had instances where let's say team 4 makes a selection. While the board-man is looking for the sticker for team four's selection, team 5 makes a pick. Then team 6 makes a pick, team seven is told he's on the clock while team 4's selection is just being placed on the board. My understanding is that the clock should not start until the prior pick
(and all other picks for that matter) has been posted on the board for all to see. That's the way it was done the first two years that I drafted in the NFBC. We certainly should not be going two and three picks ahead of what has been posted.
It wasn't constantly like this, because some people would take their time to collect themselves and determine their next pick. That said, it was very difficult to keep up. We had a fair amount of names being requested who had already been taken and it is easy to see why. Why didn't you ask them to enforce the rules?
NY#2 draft was OK, but there were issues. We had three facilitators and they all had a pretty good knowledge of the players. The pace of the proceedings was too quick, especially given the difficulty to hear the selections and read the draft board. We routinely had instances where let's say team 4 makes a selection. While the board-man is looking for the sticker for team four's selection, team 5 makes a pick. Then team 6 makes a pick, team seven is told he's on the clock while team 4's selection is just being placed on the board. My understanding is that the clock should not start until the prior pick
(and all other picks for that matter) has been posted on the board for all to see. That's the way it was done the first two years that I drafted in the NFBC. We certainly should not be going two and three picks ahead of what has been posted.
It wasn't constantly like this, because some people would take their time to collect themselves and determine their next pick. That said, it was very difficult to keep up. We had a fair amount of names being requested who had already been taken and it is easy to see why. Why didn't you ask them to enforce the rules?
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NY2 guy was wrong and should have been told. Never heard of that happening before. I was sometimes ready and even told out facilitator I was ready but he waited to announce my pick until the prior pick was posted.
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Yeah I was in NY#1 and the facilitator of NY#2 was a huge distraction. A couple guys in our league were getting pi$$ed and someone went over to talk to the guy at NY2 during the break, which didn't seem to help. I think it distracted others more than me and my co-owner, was pretty happy to nab Dontrelle in the tenth round for example. Overall a better experience than last years draft imo. Good luck to all.
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UFS asks : "Why didn't you ask them to enforce the rules?"
My concerns/complaints fell upon deaf ears. When the facilitator tried to cut our break from 15 minutes to 10, I insisted that the 15 minutes be granted. He relented on that point, but refused to adjust otherwise.
My concerns/complaints fell upon deaf ears. When the facilitator tried to cut our break from 15 minutes to 10, I insisted that the 15 minutes be granted. He relented on that point, but refused to adjust otherwise.
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Originally posted by kgrady:
UFS asks : "Why didn't you ask them to enforce the rules?"
My concerns/complaints fell upon deaf ears. When the facilitator tried to cut our break from 15 minutes to 10, I insisted that the 15 minutes be granted. He relented on that point, but refused to adjust otherwise. That's too bad. Did you talk to the person running NY for NFBC?
UFS asks : "Why didn't you ask them to enforce the rules?"
My concerns/complaints fell upon deaf ears. When the facilitator tried to cut our break from 15 minutes to 10, I insisted that the 15 minutes be granted. He relented on that point, but refused to adjust otherwise. That's too bad. Did you talk to the person running NY for NFBC?
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make sure Greg and Tom read this post and followup. This is wrong and they need to find out what happened. Send them an e-mail from this site. Send each an email. Use the icon above their name on one of their many posts on these boards.