Main Event Multiple Entries

[Money]

Last season I had 3 entries into the NFBC XII. I didn't think there was any advantage to having multiple teams in the event outside of the obvious 3 separate chances I had. Toward the end of the season I realized that was not the case. I ended up being in leagues that had other top overall contenders in them but not necessarily from that league.

If a guy has a team that is in a top overall position from a a different league and is not competitive in your league, is it ethical for him to use his free agent money to block you from attaining needs down the stretch while it's not in the best interests of his own team in that league? I had leagues last year that worked for and against me in this way.

I felt very strange even thinking about it. I decided I would not employ such a tactic but would ask this question in the off season. I did check to see if my competitors were employing anything like this and I did not see any such activity.

Many players around here play multiple teams. Is this a strategy that's executed toward the end of the season? It does create a slight advantage for those with multiple teams. What do you think? Fair or Foul?

[Atlas]

Last season I had 3 entries into the NFBC XII. I didn't think there was any advantage to having multiple teams in the event outside of the obvious 3 separate chances I had. Toward the end of the season I realized that was not the case. I ended up being in leagues that had other top overall contenders in them but not necessarily from that league.

If a guy has a team that is in a top overall position from a a different league and is not competitive in your league, is it ethical for him to use his free agent money to block you from attaining needs down the stretch while it's not in the best interests of his own team in that league? I had leagues last year that worked for and against me in this way.

I felt very strange even thinking about it. I decided I would not employ such a tactic but would ask this question in the off season. I did check to see if my competitors were employing anything like this and I did not see any such activity.

Many players around here play multiple teams. Is this a strategy that's executed toward the end of the season? It does create a slight advantage for those with multiple teams. What do you think? Fair or Foul?

I'm not sure I completely understand the question, but let me make an analogy.

After the trading deadline passes in MLB and players have to clear waivers to be traded, it is my understanding that teams routinely place claims on players to prevent them from reaching other teams. One that comes to mind immediately, although quite a long time ago, was when the Yankees put a claim in for Jose Canseco, ostensibly to block the Red Sox from getting him....if memory serves me.

Just my 2 cents.
I haven't been involved in your particular situation, nor would I probably recognize this happening if I were. I don't harp on why someone else bids what they bid for, whomever they care to bid on. Maybe I'm naive.
If they are within the rules, its fair.

[Sack]

Joe:

Yes, I like the use of your "ethical". We pay lots of MONEY to play these games. If you don't look out for
yourself, nobody else will. This is why I had no issues employing the advantage that the old "DL" rule made available.

If you play three teams and one is contending for the Overall you can bet your bottom dollar you have every
right to use that other team to serve your own purpose. Taking it a step further, some of these races for Overall money
get so close at the end, Category points can mean the difference in thousands of dollars. Your example brought up the
FAAB possibilities, but I've been fortunate enough to "study" how I could help my teams in the Overall as we came down
to the wire. That is MUCH more difficult, but it can be done.

How would you feel about a guy that was in last place in your league that was using FAAB to make pickups
specifically to hurt you in your quest for the Overall? Ethical? Well, speaking from experience this HAS been done to me.
Be more than happy to share the story in Vegas. This stand up individual was well within his right to do this, he paid
for that team. You log these things away and simply remember. Every dog has his day. The funny thing as this same person was recently lauded on these message boards.

So, to sum up. If you paid for three teams and you can use that investment to enhance your bottom line -
Go for it.

[Cocktails and Dreams]

I haven't really thought about it much, but my first time playing fantasy baseball was 2010 at tthe WCOFB. I was in a league with an extremely well known player. He also had a team battling with me for the overall title at the time. His team in my league was not doing too well and he certainly opted to block me from what I needed. I did not have a problem with it, nor did I even think it for second, so I would say that I am okay with it. That doesn't mean that I would necessarily do it though. I would be using time I have for faab on trying to right the ship with my own team. Would possibly go the extra mile to get a guy I don't want him to have in the process though.

[Money]

Joe:

Yes, I like the use of your "ethical". We pay lots of MONEY to play these games. If you don't look out for
yourself, nobody else will. This is why I had no issues employing the advantage that the old "DL" rule made available.

If you play three teams and one is contending for the Overall you can bet your bottom dollar you have every
right to use that other team to serve your own purpose. Taking it a step further, some of these races for Overall money
get so close at the end, Category points can mean the difference in thousands of dollars. Your example brought up the
FAAB possibilities, but I've been fortunate enough to "study" how I could help my teams in the Overall as we came down
to the wire. That is MUCH more difficult, but it can be done.

How would you feel about a guy that was in last place in your league that was using FAAB to make pickups
specifically to hurt you in your quest for the Overall? Ethical? Well, speaking from experience this HAS been done to me.
Be more than happy to share the story in Vegas. This stand up individual was well within his right to do this, he paid
for that team. You log these things away and simply remember. Every dog has his day. The funny thing as this same person was recently lauded on these message boards.

So, to sum up. If you paid for three teams and you can use that investment to enhance your bottom line -
Go for it.

Thanks for the response Ken. The more I thought about it the more I agree with you. It just felt strange (having never been there before) to be contemplating picking up players that would be counter productive for that particular team. You are certainly right about the financial investment and protecting any possible return. This scenario played out in each of my leagues last year.

I hope to someday be back in that position again. I'll see you in Vegas soon and watch out, I've joined the Main Event this year!! Talk about a donation!!

PS. By the way your use of the DL loophole was wrong. I think we agreed long ago to agree to disagree on that one.

[Sack]

Joe:

Had to "tweak" you just a bit with the DL comment. Glad you are still on your game. Yes,
we'll agree to disagree.

See you in Vegas - maybe even at the draft table for an XII. Looking at the 1pm on Friday
now that I've decided to handle the Auction in NYC. Safe travels, see you out West.

[Dak]

Another reason some players stopped when the NFBC went to multiple entries.

[Money]

Another reason some players stopped when the NFBC went to multiple entries.

I can't imagine that being a reason not to play. I've joined just one (15 team) main event league and I'm fine with it.

[Glenneration X]

There's an even a more interesting scenerio that comes up in football on occassion.

Due to the fact that both H2H and points seeds make the playoffs, occassionally the Fantasy Gods create a situation where a team would be better served by losing the last week of the regular season rather than winning. This occurs in instances when by losing to a team that has an opportunity at both one of the H2H or total points seeds, they allow that team to take the place of a low total points team in a H2H spot opening another total points spot for themselves.

Now imagine the "ethics" behind having to lose to win.
I think personally I'd probably lose.

[Roy's Outlaws]

Another reason some players stopped when the NFBC went to multiple entries.

I know 2 player that have stopped playing the main because of multipe entries. Differant contest when everyone only has one chance at getting it right.