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Old School Stupid

Post by COZ » Mon May 20, 2013 7:58 pm

Eric O'Flaherty sceduled for TJ Surgery. Johnny Venters scheduled for TJ Surgery. Julio Teheran has his best pitching performance of the year and Fabulous Fredi leaves him in for 123 pitches. Dumb. Clearly laboring in the 9th too. I'll be curious to see how this affects his next start. And then Larry Bowa spouts the old-school cliche about how he likes that Fredi is letting his guy gut it out. Brilliant. OLD SCHOOL.

Terry Francona in today's game, down one in extra innings, one man on base, lefty pitcher. Drew Stubbs (with solid power), notorious for hitting lefties well, has him bunt. He fails but reaches on an error. Next batter Yan Gomes, again with solid power, righty/ lefty advantage, has him attempt to bunt. He fails miserably bunting. Then jacks a walk-off HR, in spite of Francona trying to play for one run and take the bat out of his hands. OLD SCHOOL

I like to refer to the out-of-town, national announcers or media who come into broadcast in a new city but don't really know the inside scoop on the home team as "out-of-town stupid." I think I will be applying it to "old school" managers now as "Old School Stupid."

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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by COZ » Mon May 20, 2013 8:59 pm

Though in defense of Old School, I still do love this cantankerous, old-school guy on MLB Network:
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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by Edwards Kings » Tue May 21, 2013 2:32 pm

I have this Billy Ripken card. One of my favorites.

On Teheran, it may be just that. Gonzalez may want to see how he will bounce back after 120+ pitches while giving him a chance to have his first complete game shut-out. Not saying Gonzalez should do that regularly to Teheran, but it may be good information should it become a neccessity.

On O'Hellmyarmhurts and Venters, not sure the TJS is on Gonzalez or McDowell as overwork. Neither threw 60 IP last year.
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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by Deadheadz » Tue May 21, 2013 3:09 pm

The word we use for "old-school stupid" is Crafty.

Braves manager is being "crafty" by overworking JT and fully expects him to get blown up next time out, just in time for Beachy to return to the rotation. After Teheran's sub-par outing, there will be far less second-guessing the removal of Teheran from the 5-man rotation.

Crafty.

On the other hand, should JT come back strong in his next start, it will show he deserves to remain a starter and point to someone like Medlen losing his spot and going back to the bullpen. A bullpen where he excelled and one that's depleted. Medlen has more experience there than does Teheran.


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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by Brock » Tue May 21, 2013 4:15 pm

I seriously doubt their going to send Medlen to the bullpen. 10-1- last year as a starter makes him much to valuable to banish to the pen. JT will be sent down for more seasoning when Beachy comes back and bullpen help is available via a trade at anytime. Medlen to the bullpen is plain ridiculous as far as I'm concerned. His era is stellar and I look for him to go on a winning streak sometime soon. Good luck to all.

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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by Edwards Kings » Tue May 21, 2013 7:16 pm

Six starters, two catchers, no lead-off man.

I smell a trade coming....
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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by JimyMarlboroBallgame » Tue May 21, 2013 7:17 pm

COZ wrote:Eric O'Flaherty sceduled for TJ Surgery. Johnny Venters scheduled for TJ Surgery. Julio Teheran has his best pitching performance of the year and Fabulous Fredi leaves him in for 123 pitches. Dumb. Clearly laboring in the 9th too. I'll be curious to see how this affects his next start. And then Larry Bowa spouts the old-school cliche about how he likes that Fredi is letting his guy gut it out. Brilliant. OLD SCHOOL.

Terry Francona in today's game, down one in extra innings, one man on base, lefty pitcher. Drew Stubbs (with solid power), notorious for hitting lefties well, has him bunt. He fails but reaches on an error. Next batter Yan Gomes, again with solid power, righty/ lefty advantage, has him attempt to bunt. He fails miserably bunting. Then jacks a walk-off HR, in spite of Francona trying to play for one run and take the bat out of his hands. OLD SCHOOL

I like to refer to the out-of-town, national announcers or media who come into broadcast in a new city but don't really know the inside scoop on the home team as "out-of-town stupid." I think I will be applying it to "old school" managers now as "Old School Stupid."

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Um okay. Verlander can throw 130 every time out easy. I don't see him crying about it. The problem is is that these guys should not be pitching then. 20 pitches or 180 pitches; you either get hurt or you don't. Gosh, baseball is such a pu**ies game. Then again, every sport looks to be headed in that direction now. I gave up watching basketball because I don't want to watch LeBron or Jordan cry like a baby upon getting fouled when they are not touched. What a stupid game that is! GO F*ing Pacers .......kick his a.................................................................................................s!

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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by Edwards Kings » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:56 pm

COZ wrote:Eric O'Flaherty sceduled for TJ Surgery. Johnny Venters scheduled for TJ Surgery. Julio Teheran has his best pitching performance of the year and Fabulous Fredi leaves him in for 123 pitches. Dumb. Clearly laboring in the 9th too. I'll be curious to see how this affects his next start. And then Larry Bowa spouts the old-school cliche about how he likes that Fredi is letting his guy gut it out. Brilliant. OLD SCHOOL.
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So far so good on Teheran. Next three starts 21.1 IP, 13 hits, 4 ER, 6 walks, and 25 K's (this of course includes the no-hitter he lost today in the 8th to Inge of all people). ERA 1.6875, WHIP 0.8906 WHIP. ;)
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
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Re: Old School Stupid

Post by COZ » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:17 pm

Masterful performance. More outings like this and maybe it will justify my faith in the young Julio. Just glad to see Faboulous Fredi's overwork has not affected him. The beauty of young pitchers, I guess. We shall see, should be interesting to see how the arrival of Brandon Beachy affects the staff of the Braves. But a great stretch of outings by Julio, what a relief. Finally.

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