2014 Early Season Draft Results

[Ando]

Also just a tad different because it was NL ONLY!

Actually that doesn't make it a tad different, it makes it hilariously different.

And the 3rd amigo in 2011 was JRoll. A leadoff hitter (again, NL ONLY!) was had upper expectations of 100-20-70-40 in 2011.

This example that is being defended in nauseum has a 3rd amigo who is Ian Desmond. First off, we're talking about a mix league draft. Huge difference here, everyone. This fact alone pretty much poo-poo's the comp to Shawn and Greg, who obviously did this in the NL LABR.

The final HUGE difference is that Big Hit Desy is a #6 hitter who has career highs of 77 runs scored, 80 rbi, and 25 sb's. Not an established leadoff hitter for an explosive 2011 Philly lineup.

[Deadheadz]

Also just a tad different because it was NL ONLY!

Actually that doesn't make it a tad different, it makes it hilariously different.

And the 3rd amigo in 2011 was JRoll. A leadoff hitter (again, NL ONLY!) was had upper expectations of 100-20-70-40 in 2011.

This example that is being defended in nauseum has a 3rd amigo who is Ian Desmond. First off, we're talking about a mix league draft. Huge difference here, everyone. This fact alone pretty much poo-poo's the comp to Shawn and Greg, who obviously did this in the NL LABR.

The final HUGE difference is that Big Hit Desy is a #6 hitter who has career highs of 77 runs scored, 80 rbi, and 25 sb's. Not an established leadoff hitter for an explosive 2011 Philly lineup.

The plan was Hanley, Reyes, Segura and Desmond and assumed Hanley would gain 3B eligibility.
Thought I'd get Hanley at 8 so I chose 8 as my first KDS. He went 6th instead.

What it taught me was to have a backup plan.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Let's start the week off with a few draft results to warm you up during this cold winter stretch. Here we go:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Chris Davis 1B
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Robinson Cano 2B
1 8 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Adam Jones CF
1 11 Prince Fielder 1B
1 12 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 15 Ryan Braun RF

Round 2:
2 1 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 2 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 3 Yasiel Puig RF
2 4 Joey Votto 1B
2 5 Carlos Gomez CF
2 6 Yu Darvish SP
2 7 Max Scherzer SP
2 8 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 9 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 10 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 11 Evan Longoria 3B
2 12 David Wright 3B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Jean Segura SS
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 2 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 3 Jose Reyes SS
3 4 Alex Rios RF
3 5 Jose Bautista RF
3 6 Ian Desmond SS
3 7 Adam Wainwright SP
3 8 Matt Kemp CF
3 9 Felix Hernandez SP
3 10 Justin Upton LF
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Hunter Pence RF
3 13 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
3 14 Starling Marte LF
3 15 Stephen Strasburg SP

Round 4:
4 1 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 2 Wil Myers RF
4 3 Albert Pujols 1B
4 4 Elvis Andrus SS
4 5 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 6 Matt Holliday LF
4 7 Justin Verlander SP
4 8 David Price SP
4 9 Buster Posey C
4 10 Cliff Lee SP
4 11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 12 Chris Sale SP
4 13 Allen Craig 1B
4 14 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 15 Ian Kinsler 2B

Round 5:
5 1 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 2 Wilin Rosario C
5 3 Carlos Santana C
5 4 Kenley Jansen MR
5 5 Mark Trumbo 1B
5 6 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 7 Jose Abreu 1B
5 8 Zack Greinke SP
5 9 Greg Holland MR
5 10 Jason Heyward RF
5 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 12 Koji Uehara MR
5 13 Billy Hamilton CF
5 14 Cole Hamels SP
5 15 Yadier Molina C

Round 6:
6 1 Alex Gordon LF
6 2 Matt Carpenter 2B
6 3 Manny Machado 3B
6 4 David Ortiz DH
6 5 Brian McCann C
6 6 Joe Mauer C
6 7 Josh Donaldson 3B
6 8 Salvador Perez C
6 9 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 10 Josh Hamilton RF
6 11 Brandon Phillips 2B
6 12 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 13 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 14 Gerrit Cole SP
6 15 Joe Nathan MR

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another one to start the day:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 2 Mike Trout CF
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Adam Jones CF
1 8 Chris Davis 1B
1 9 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 10 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 11 Robinson Cano 2B
1 12 Joey Votto 1B
1 13 Prince Fielder 1B
1 14 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 15 Bryce Harper LF

Round 2:
2 1 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 2 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 3 David Wright 3B
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Ryan Braun RF
2 6 Yu Darvish SP
2 7 Carlos Gomez CF
2 8 Cliff Lee SP
2 9 Yasiel Puig RF
2 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
2 11 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 12 Jose Fernandez SP
2 13 Evan Longoria 3B
2 14 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 15 Freddie Freeman 1B

Round 3:
3 1 Jean Segura SS
3 2 Jose Reyes SS
3 3 Ian Desmond SS
3 4 Max Scherzer SP
3 5 Jay Bruce RF
3 6 Alex Rios RF
3 7 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 8 Buster Posey C
3 9 Felix Hernandez SP
3 10 Adam Wainwright SP
3 11 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 12 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Justin Verlander SP
3 15 Greg Holland MR

Round 4:
4 1 Kenley Jansen MR
4 2 Elvis Andrus SS
4 3 Cole Hamels SP
4 4 Matt Holliday LF
4 5 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 6 Albert Pujols 1B
4 7 Jose Bautista RF
4 8 Chris Sale SP
4 9 Hunter Pence RF
4 10 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 11 Starling Marte LF
4 12 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 13 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 14 Billy Hamilton CF
4 15 Zack Greinke SP

Round 5:
5 1 Allen Craig 1B
5 2 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 3 Joe Mauer C
5 4 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 6 Brian McCann C
5 7 Ben Zobrist 2B
5 8 Yadier Molina C
5 9 David Price SP
5 10 Matt Kemp CF
5 11 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 12 Wil Myers RF
5 13 Carlos Santana C
5 14 Trevor Rosenthal MR
5 15 Salvador Perez C

Round 6:
6 1 Daniel Murphy 2B
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Jason Heyward RF
6 4 Jose Altuve 2B
6 5 Michael Wacha SP
6 6 Wilin Rosario C
6 7 Mark Trumbo 1B
6 8 Brandon Phillips 2B
6 9 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 10 Everth Cabrera SS
6 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
6 12 Joe Nathan MR
6 13 Alex Gordon LF
6 14 Josh Hamilton RF
6 15 Anibal Sanchez SP

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Okay, one more for the day:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Adam Jones CF
1 9 Bryce Harper LF
1 10 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 11 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 14 Joey Votto 1B
1 15 Ryan Braun RF

Round 2:
2 1 Prince Fielder 1B
2 2 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 3 Jean Segura SS
2 4 Evan Longoria 3B
2 5 Yasiel Puig RF
2 6 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 7 Jose Fernandez SP
2 8 Carlos Gomez CF
2 9 Yu Darvish SP
2 10 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 11 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 12 David Wright 3B
2 13 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 14 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 15 Justin Upton LF

Round 3:
3 1 Jay Bruce RF
3 2 Buster Posey C
3 3 Jose Reyes SS
3 4 Justin Verlander SP
3 5 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 6 Albert Pujols 1B
3 7 Allen Craig 1B
3 8 Ian Desmond SS
3 9 Alex Rios RF
3 10 Max Scherzer SP
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 13 Adam Wainwright SP
3 14 Felix Hernandez SP
3 15 Eric Hosmer 1B

Round 4:
4 1 Matt Kemp CF
4 2 Carlos Santana C
4 3 Masahiro Tanaka SP
4 4 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 5 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 6 Cliff Lee SP
4 7 Chris Sale SP
4 8 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 9 Jose Bautista RF
4 10 Matt Holliday LF
4 11 Mark Trumbo 1B
4 12 Elvis Andrus SS
4 13 David Price SP
4 14 Joe Mauer C
4 15 Cole Hamels SP

Round 5:
5 1 Wilin Rosario C
5 2 Ian Kinsler 2B
5 3 Wil Myers RF
5 4 Hunter Pence RF
5 5 Starling Marte LF
5 6 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 7 Billy Hamilton CF
5 8 Zack Greinke SP
5 9 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 10 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 11 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 12 Ben Zobrist 2B
5 13 Jason Heyward RF
5 14 Greg Holland MR
5 15 Kenley Jansen MR

Round 6:
6 1 Joe Nathan MR
6 2 Yadier Molina C
6 3 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 4 Brian McCann C
6 5 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
6 6 Jayson Werth RF
6 7 Koji Uehara MR
6 8 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 9 Carlos Beltran RF
6 10 Everth Cabrera SS
6 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
6 12 Daniel Murphy 2B
6 13 Michael Wacha SP
6 14 Salvador Perez C
6 15 David Ortiz DH

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Let's warm your mind with a few more draft results today. Enjoy:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 4 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 7 Bryce Harper LF
1 8 Yu Darvish SP
1 9 Adam Jones CF
1 10 Robinson Cano 2B
1 11 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 12 Chris Davis 1B
1 13 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 14 Prince Fielder 1B
1 15 Ryan Braun RF

Round 2:
2 1 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 2 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 3 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 4 Joey Votto 1B
2 5 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 6 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 7 Evan Longoria 3B
2 8 Adam Wainwright SP
2 9 Yasiel Puig RF
2 10 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 11 Buster Posey C
2 12 David Wright 3B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Carlos Gomez CF
2 15 Jean Segura SS

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Jose Reyes SS
3 3 Alex Rios RF
3 4 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 5 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 6 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 7 Max Scherzer SP
3 8 Aroldis Chapman MR
3 9 Justin Upton LF
3 10 Justin Verlander SP
3 11 Jay Bruce RF
3 12 Allen Craig 1B
3 13 Jose Bautista RF
3 14 Albert Pujols 1B
3 15 Madison Bumgarner SP

Round 4:
4 1 Chris Sale SP
4 2 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 3 Felix Hernandez SP
4 4 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 5 Cliff Lee SP
4 6 David Price SP
4 7 Cole Hamels SP
4 8 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 9 Kenley Jansen MR
4 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
4 11 Matt Kemp CF
4 12 Elvis Andrus SS
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Starling Marte LF
4 15 Greg Holland MR

Round 5:
5 1 Wil Myers RF
5 2 Joe Mauer C
5 3 Matt Holliday LF
5 4 Matt Carpenter 2B
5 5 Mark Trumbo 1B
5 6 Zack Greinke SP
5 7 Wilin Rosario C
5 8 Jason Heyward RF
5 9 Ian Kinsler 2B
5 10 Josh Hamilton RF
5 11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 12 Carlos Santana C
5 13 Ben Zobrist 2B
5 14 Jonathan Lucroy C
5 15 Trevor Rosenthal MR

Round 6:
6 1 Billy Hamilton CF
6 2 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 3 Yadier Molina C
6 4 Everth Cabrera SS
6 5 Josh Donaldson 3B
6 6 Salvador Perez C
6 7 Joe Nathan MR
6 8 Anthony Rizzo 1B
6 9 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
6 10 Koji Uehara MR
6 11 Starlin Castro SS
6 12 Pedro Alvarez 3B
6 13 Brian McCann C
6 14 David Ortiz DH
6 15 Anibal Sanchez SP

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's one more to start the day:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Chris Davis 1B
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 8 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 9 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 10 Robinson Cano 2B
1 11 Ryan Braun RF
1 12 Adam Jones CF
1 13 Yasiel Puig RF
1 14 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 15 Edwin Encarnacion 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Yu Darvish SP
2 2 Prince Fielder 1B
2 3 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 4 Joey Votto 1B
2 5 Bryce Harper LF
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 8 Jose Bautista RF
2 9 Carlos Gomez CF
2 10 Evan Longoria 3B
2 11 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 12 David Wright 3B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 15 Max Scherzer SP

Round 3:
3 1 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 2 Adam Wainwright SP
3 3 Jean Segura SS
3 4 Jay Bruce RF
3 5 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 6 Justin Upton LF
3 7 Justin Verlander SP
3 8 Cliff Lee SP
3 9 Ian Desmond SS
3 10 Jose Reyes SS
3 11 Buster Posey C
3 12 Alex Rios RF
3 13 Matt Holliday LF
3 14 Felix Hernandez SP
3 15 Shin-Soo Choo CF

Round 4:
4 1 Chris Sale SP
4 2 Matt Kemp CF
4 3 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 4 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 5 David Price SP
4 6 Cole Hamels SP
4 7 Hunter Pence RF
4 8 Albert Pujols 1B
4 9 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 10 Zack Greinke SP
4 11 Starling Marte LF
4 12 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 13 Elvis Andrus SS
4 14 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 15 Joe Mauer C

Round 5:
5 1 Carlos Santana C
5 2 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 3 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 4 Allen Craig 1B
5 5 Greg Holland MR
5 6 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 7 Ben Zobrist 2B
5 8 Kenley Jansen MR
5 9 Ian Kinsler 2B
5 10 Wilin Rosario C
5 11 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 12 Trevor Rosenthal MR
5 13 Jordan Zimmermann SP
5 14 Billy Hamilton CF
5 15 Gerrit Cole SP

Round 6:
6 1 Wil Myers RF
6 2 Koji Uehara MR
6 3 Michael Wacha SP
6 4 Yadier Molina C
6 5 Jason Heyward RF
6 6 Mark Trumbo 1B
6 7 Brandon Phillips 2B
6 8 Everth Cabrera SS
6 9 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 10 Mat Latos SP
6 11 Jose Abreu 1B
6 12 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
6 13 Jayson Werth RF
6 14 Gio Gonzalez SP
6 15 Jose Altuve 2B

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Let's do one for today. Hopefully you folks enjoy seeing a few of these results:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Robinson Cano 2B
1 7 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 8 Adam Jones CF
1 9 Chris Davis 1B
1 10 Joey Votto 1B
1 11 Ryan Braun RF
1 12 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 13 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 14 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 15 Prince Fielder 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Bryce Harper LF
2 2 David Wright 3B
2 3 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 4 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 5 Yu Darvish SP
2 6 Jay Bruce RF
2 7 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 8 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 9 Jose Fernandez SP
2 10 Evan Longoria 3B
2 11 Carlos Gomez CF
2 12 Yasiel Puig RF
2 13 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 14 Shin-Soo Choo CF
2 15 Buster Posey C

Round 3:
3 1 Jean Segura SS
3 2 Max Scherzer SP
3 3 Freddie Freeman 1B
3 4 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 5 Felix Hernandez SP
3 6 Ian Desmond SS
3 7 Alex Rios RF
3 8 Adam Wainwright SP
3 9 Cliff Lee SP
3 10 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 11 Matt Kemp CF
3 12 Justin Upton LF
3 13 Jose Bautista RF
3 14 Jose Reyes SS
3 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 4:
4 1 David Price SP
4 2 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 3 Allen Craig 1B
4 4 Albert Pujols 1B
4 5 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 6 Chris Sale SP
4 7 Yadier Molina C
4 8 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 9 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 10 Cole Hamels SP
4 11 Wilin Rosario C
4 12 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 13 Matt Holliday LF
4 14 Wil Myers RF
4 15 Yoenis Cespedes LF

Round 5:
5 1 Greg Holland MR
5 2 Jordan Zimmermann SP
5 3 Elvis Andrus SS
5 4 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 5 Zack Greinke SP
5 6 Hunter Pence RF
5 7 Joe Mauer C
5 8 Manny Machado 3B
5 9 Mark Trumbo 1B
5 10 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 11 Starling Marte LF
5 12 Matt Cain SP
5 13 Jason Heyward RF
5 14 Carlos Santana C
5 15 Kenley Jansen MR

Round 6:
6 1 Josh Hamilton RF
6 2 Brian McCann C
6 3 Billy Hamilton CF
6 4 James Shields SP
6 5 Gerrit Cole SP
6 6 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 7 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 8 Pedro Alvarez 3B
6 9 Salvador Perez C
6 10 Mat Latos SP
6 11 Ian Kinsler 2B
6 12 Aaron Hill 2B
6 13 David Ortiz DH
6 14 Jose Altuve 2B
6 15 Brandon Phillips 2B

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Let's keep the results coming with one more set today:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Robinson Cano 2B
1 6 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 7 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 8 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 9 Ryan Braun RF
1 10 Chris Davis 1B
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Joey Votto 1B
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 15 Troy Tulowitzki SS

Round 2:
2 1 Yu Darvish SP
2 2 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 3 Yasiel Puig RF
2 4 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Prince Fielder 1B
2 7 Evan Longoria 3B
2 8 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 9 Jean Segura SS
2 10 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 11 David Wright 3B
2 12 Jose Reyes SS
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Matt Carpenter 2B
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Buster Posey C
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Albert Pujols 1B
3 5 Adam Wainwright SP
3 6 Carlos Gomez CF
3 7 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 8 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 9 Justin Verlander SP
3 10 Alex Rios RF
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Jose Bautista RF
3 13 Cliff Lee SP
3 14 Eric Hosmer 1B
3 15 Justin Upton LF

Round 4:
4 1 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 2 Elvis Andrus SS
4 3 Allen Craig 1B
4 4 Felix Hernandez SP
4 5 Chris Sale SP
4 6 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 7 Brandon Phillips 2B
4 8 Matt Holliday LF
4 9 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 10 David Price SP
4 11 Matt Kemp CF
4 12 Cole Hamels SP
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Joe Mauer C
4 15 Zack Greinke SP

Round 5:
5 1 Kenley Jansen MR
5 2 Carlos Santana C
5 3 Starling Marte LF
5 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 5 Yadier Molina C
5 6 Ian Kinsler 2B
5 7 Jason Heyward RF
5 8 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 9 Mark Trumbo 1B
5 10 Wil Myers RF
5 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 12 Wilin Rosario C
5 13 Greg Holland MR
5 14 David Ortiz DH
5 15 Yoenis Cespedes LF

Round 6:
6 1 Brian McCann C
6 2 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 3 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 4 Everth Cabrera SS
6 5 Salvador Perez C
6 6 Billy Hamilton CF
6 7 Matt Wieters C
6 8 Josh Hamilton RF
6 9 Domonic Brown LF
6 10 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 11 Mike Minor SP
6 12 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
6 13 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 14 Martin Prado 3B
6 15 Josh Donaldson 3B

Thoughts?

[Roger Dorn]

Let's keep the results coming with one more set today:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Robinson Cano 2B
1 6 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 7 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 8 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 9 Ryan Braun RF
1 10 Chris Davis 1B
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Joey Votto 1B
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 15 Troy Tulowitzki SS

Round 2:
2 1 Yu Darvish SP
2 2 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 3 Yasiel Puig RF
2 4 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Prince Fielder 1B
2 7 Evan Longoria 3B
2 8 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 9 Jean Segura SS
2 10 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 11 David Wright 3B
2 12 Jose Reyes SS
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Matt Carpenter 2B
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Buster Posey C
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Albert Pujols 1B
3 5 Adam Wainwright SP
3 6 Carlos Gomez CF
3 7 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 8 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 9 Justin Verlander SP
3 10 Alex Rios RF
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Jose Bautista RF
3 13 Cliff Lee SP
3 14 Eric Hosmer 1B
3 15 Justin Upton LF

Round 4:
4 1 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 2 Elvis Andrus SS
4 3 Allen Craig 1B
4 4 Felix Hernandez SP
4 5 Chris Sale SP
4 6 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 7 Brandon Phillips 2B
4 8 Matt Holliday LF
4 9 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 10 David Price SP
4 11 Matt Kemp CF
4 12 Cole Hamels SP
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Joe Mauer C
4 15 Zack Greinke SP

Round 5:
5 1 Kenley Jansen MR
5 2 Carlos Santana C
5 3 Starling Marte LF
5 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 5 Yadier Molina C
5 6 Ian Kinsler 2B
5 7 Jason Heyward RF
5 8 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 9 Mark Trumbo 1B
5 10 Wil Myers RF
5 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 12 Wilin Rosario C
5 13 Greg Holland MR
5 14 David Ortiz DH
5 15 Yoenis Cespedes LF

Round 6:
6 1 Brian McCann C
6 2 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 3 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 4 Everth Cabrera SS
6 5 Salvador Perez C
6 6 Billy Hamilton CF
6 7 Matt Wieters C
6 8 Josh Hamilton RF
6 9 Domonic Brown LF
6 10 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 11 Mike Minor SP
6 12 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
6 13 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 14 Martin Prado 3B
6 15 Josh Donaldson 3B

Thoughts?

Love team 2's multi position eligibly. But leave some catchers for the rest of us!

[Deadheadz]

Love team 2's multi position eligibly. But leave some catchers for the rest of us!

Certainly makes more sense than my Three Shortstop Amigoes strategy.
Maybe I've learned something after five DCs.

Just gotta avoid crapping the bed in rounds 7-30.


Cheers!

[DOUGHBOYS]

If positionality were a category, we have a winner...

[joshguy]

my only problem with it is that if you get blessed with the #1 or #2 pick and get Trout or Miggy, dont mess around with a strategy like that. The only categories that for sure he will dominate in his batting avg. Posey is just above avg for catchers in the HR category, Santana is a solid power play at C. But now you put Mauer at CI where he probably becomes a liability in the power categories when you stack him up against say Justin Morneau who can be had 10 rounds later. Carpenter and Prado only really are a plus in the avg category(and obviously the positional category)

So after 6 RDs, he's only kicking butt in the avg. category. Does give him a ton of options in season though which could get some of those points back...

[DOUGHBOYS]

my only problem with it is that if you get blessed with the #1 or #2 pick and get Trout or Miggy, dont mess around with a strategy like that. The only categories that for sure he will dominate in his batting avg. Posey is just above avg for catchers in the HR category, Santana is a solid power play at C. But now you put Mauer at CI where he probably becomes a liability in the power categories when you stack him up against say Justin Morneau who can be had 10 rounds later. Carpenter and Prado only really are a plus in the avg category(and obviously the positional category)

So after 6 RDs, he's only kicking butt in the avg. category. Does give him a ton of options in season though which could get some of those points back...

Exactly.
It is one of those drafts that look sweet....until the season begins.
Then, when finding out that filling 10 categories is the name of the game, not positionality, it occurs to the drafter that proficiency on the field trumps ease in roster choices.
I would not be happy with that start.
I would be Ace-less in Seattle and without a paddle....I have no idea what that means, but it seems to fit.

[converge241]

Arod just went in a draft champions after word yesterday he may "only" have to serve 100 games (rd 22)

[Yah Mule]

I want to thank everybody who's using the One Round Auto when possible. Also, the people who are drafting from smartphones to keep things moving along. One word of caution, though. Please don't draft and drive. If you know your turn is coming up, either pull over to make your selection or have Yasiel Puig's cousin take the wheel for a few minutes. None of these guys are worth getting into an accident over and none of your fellow league owners want to wait out the eight hours each time for the rest of your picks.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's one more draft result as we are filled up at least one new league per day:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Adam Jones CF
1 7 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 8 Chris Davis 1B
1 9 Ryan Braun RF
1 10 Bryce Harper LF
1 11 Carlos Gomez CF
1 12 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 13 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 14 Robinson Cano 2B
1 15 Yasiel Puig RF

Round 2:
2 1 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 2 Prince Fielder 1B
2 3 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Jay Bruce RF
2 6 Joey Votto 1B
2 7 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 8 Yu Darvish SP
2 9 Evan Longoria 3B
2 10 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 11 David Wright 3B
2 12 Max Scherzer SP
2 13 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 14 Buster Posey C
2 15 Alex Rios RF

Round 3:
3 1 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 2 Cliff Lee SP
3 3 Freddie Freeman 1B
3 4 Jose Fernandez SP
3 5 Hunter Pence RF
3 6 Ian Desmond SS
3 7 Jose Reyes SS
3 8 Jean Segura SS
3 9 Albert Pujols 1B
3 10 Justin Upton LF
3 11 Elvis Andrus SS
3 12 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 13 Felix Hernandez SP
3 14 Adam Wainwright SP
3 15 Eric Hosmer 1B

Round 4:
4 1 Wil Myers RF
4 2 Justin Verlander SP
4 3 Yadier Molina C
4 4 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 5 Chris Sale SP
4 6 Jose Bautista RF
4 7 Starling Marte LF
4 8 Josh Donaldson 3B
4 9 Matt Kemp CF
4 10 Allen Craig 1B
4 11 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 12 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 13 Matt Holliday LF
4 14 Joe Mauer C
4 15 Madison Bumgarner SP

Round 5:
5 1 Kenley Jansen MR
5 2 Jason Heyward RF
5 3 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 4 Carlos Santana C
5 5 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 6 Zack Greinke SP
5 7 David Price SP
5 8 Greg Holland MR
5 9 Matt Carpenter 2B
5 10 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 11 Brian McCann C
5 12 Billy Hamilton CF
5 13 Mark Trumbo 1B
5 14 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 15 Everth Cabrera SS

Round 6:
6 1 Wilin Rosario C
6 2 Cole Hamels SP
6 3 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 4 Josh Hamilton RF
6 5 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 6 Matt Wieters C
6 7 Masahiro Tanaka SP
6 8 Salvador Perez C
6 9 Jose Abreu 1B
6 10 Kyle Seager 3B
6 11 David Ortiz DH
6 12 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 13 Jayson Werth RF
6 14 Jose Altuve 2B
6 15 Alex Gordon LF

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Let's get a couple of draft results in today before we leave for Las Vegas:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Adam Jones CF
1 8 Robinson Cano 2B
1 9 Chris Davis 1B
1 10 Bryce Harper LF
1 11 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 12 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 13 Joey Votto 1B
1 14 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 15 Yu Darvish SP

Round 2:
2 1 Prince Fielder 1B
2 2 Yasiel Puig RF
2 3 Jose Reyes SS
2 4 Ryan Braun RF
2 5 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 6 Evan Longoria 3B
2 7 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 8 David Wright 3B
2 9 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
2 11 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 12 Carlos Gomez CF
2 13 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 14 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 15 Jose Fernandez SP

Round 3:
3 1 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 2 Max Scherzer SP
3 3 Adam Wainwright SP
3 4 Jay Bruce RF
3 5 Alex Rios RF
3 6 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 7 Jean Segura SS
3 8 Albert Pujols 1B
3 9 Justin Upton LF
3 10 Matt Kemp CF
3 11 Ian Desmond SS
3 12 Buster Posey C
3 13 Jose Bautista RF
3 14 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 4:
4 1 Allen Craig 1B
4 2 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 3 David Price SP
4 4 Felix Hernandez SP
4 5 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 6 Billy Hamilton CF
4 7 Cliff Lee SP
4 8 Starling Marte LF
4 9 Chris Sale SP
4 10 Elvis Andrus SS
4 11 Hunter Pence RF
4 12 Cole Hamels SP
4 13 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 14 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 15 Wilin Rosario C

Round 5:
5 1 Jason Heyward RF
5 2 Greg Holland MR
5 3 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 4 Kenley Jansen MR
5 5 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 6 Matt Holliday LF
5 7 Carlos Santana C
5 8 Zack Greinke SP
5 9 Josh Hamilton RF
5 10 David Ortiz DH
5 11 Matt Carpenter 2B
5 12 Wil Myers RF
5 13 Joe Mauer C
5 14 Trevor Rosenthal MR
5 15 Josh Donaldson 3B

Round 6:
6 1 Yadier Molina C
6 2 Brian McCann C
6 3 Koji Uehara MR
6 4 Everth Cabrera SS
6 5 Ian Kinsler 2B
6 6 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 7 Mark Trumbo 1B
6 8 Shane Victorino RF
6 9 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
6 10 Carlos Beltran RF
6 11 Michael Wacha SP
6 12 Anthony Rizzo 1B
6 13 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 14 Jose Altuve 2B
6 15 Jose Abreu 1B

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another one:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 2 Mike Trout CF
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Chris Davis 1B
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Adam Jones CF
1 8 Robinson Cano 2B
1 9 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 10 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 11 Prince Fielder 1B
1 12 Bryce Harper LF
1 13 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 14 Jason Kipnis 2B
1 15 Ryan Braun RF

Round 2:
2 1 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 2 Joey Votto 1B
2 3 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 4 Yu Darvish SP
2 5 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 6 Yasiel Puig RF
2 7 Matt Kemp CF
2 8 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 9 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 10 Carlos Gomez CF
2 11 Evan Longoria 3B
2 12 Jean Segura SS
2 13 Jay Bruce RF
2 14 David Wright 3B
2 15 Alex Rios RF

Round 3:
3 1 Max Scherzer SP
3 2 Jose Fernandez SP
3 3 Eric Hosmer 1B
3 4 Adam Wainwright SP
3 5 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 6 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 7 Jose Reyes SS
3 8 Felix Hernandez SP
3 9 Cliff Lee SP
3 10 Ian Desmond SS
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 15 Albert Pujols 1B

Round 4:
4 1 Matt Holliday LF
4 2 Allen Craig 1B
4 3 Chris Sale SP
4 4 Jose Bautista RF
4 5 Hunter Pence RF
4 6 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 7 Ben Zobrist 2B
4 8 David Price SP
4 9 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 10 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 11 Buster Posey C
4 12 Cole Hamels SP
4 13 Zack Greinke SP
4 14 Justin Verlander SP
4 15 Mark Trumbo 1B

Round 5:
5 1 Carlos Santana C
5 2 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 3 Jedd Gyorko 2B
5 4 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 5 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 6 Kenley Jansen MR
5 7 Wil Myers RF
5 8 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 9 Joe Mauer C
5 10 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 11 Elvis Andrus SS
5 12 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 13 Starling Marte LF
5 14 Billy Hamilton CF
5 15 Yadier Molina C

Round 6:
6 1 Martin Prado 3B
6 2 Jose Abreu 1B
6 3 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 4 Everth Cabrera SS
6 5 Greg Holland MR
6 6 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 7 Jason Heyward RF
6 8 Josh Hamilton RF
6 9 Masahiro Tanaka SP
6 10 Carlos Beltran RF
6 11 Wilin Rosario C
6 12 Domonic Brown LF
6 13 Salvador Perez C
6 14 Brian McCann C
6 15 James Shields SP

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's one more before we go:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 9 Bryce Harper LF
1 10 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 11 Joey Votto 1B
1 12 Adam Jones CF
1 13 Robinson Cano 2B
1 14 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 15 Ryan Braun RF

Round 2:
2 1 Yu Darvish SP
2 2 Prince Fielder 1B
2 3 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 4 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 5 Evan Longoria 3B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 8 Jay Bruce RF
2 9 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 10 Yasiel Puig RF
2 11 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 12 Jose Fernandez SP
2 13 David Wright 3B
2 14 Stephen Strasburg SP
2 15 Ian Desmond SS

Round 3:
3 1 Buster Posey C
3 2 Cliff Lee SP
3 3 Carlos Gomez CF
3 4 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 5 Jose Reyes SS
3 6 Elvis Andrus SS
3 7 Adam Wainwright SP
3 8 Felix Hernandez SP
3 9 Max Scherzer SP
3 10 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 11 Jean Segura SS
3 12 Alex Rios RF
3 13 Albert Pujols 1B
3 14 Ian Kinsler 2B
3 15 Matt Carpenter 2B

Round 4:
4 1 Billy Hamilton CF
4 2 Justin Upton LF
4 3 Jose Bautista RF
4 4 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 5 David Price SP
4 6 Chris Sale SP
4 7 Matt Kemp CF
4 8 Jose Altuve 2B
4 9 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 10 Brian McCann C
4 11 Justin Verlander SP
4 12 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 13 Joe Mauer C
4 14 Carlos Santana C
4 15 Hunter Pence RF

Round 5:
5 1 Salvador Perez C
5 2 Matt Holliday LF
5 3 Starling Marte LF
5 4 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 5 Wilin Rosario C
5 6 Kenley Jansen MR
5 7 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 8 Greg Holland MR
5 9 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 10 Allen Craig 1B
5 11 Joe Nathan MR
5 12 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 13 Yadier Molina C
5 14 Zack Greinke SP
5 15 Trevor Rosenthal MR

Round 6:
6 1 David Ortiz DH
6 2 Koji Uehara MR
6 3 Cole Hamels SP
6 4 Josh Hamilton RF
6 5 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 6 Mark Trumbo 1B
6 7 Masahiro Tanaka SP
6 8 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 9 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 10 Jayson Werth RF
6 11 Carlos Beltran RF
6 12 Wil Myers RF
6 13 Everth Cabrera SS
6 14 Jason Heyward RF
6 15 Daniel Murphy 2B

Thoughts?

[TOXIC ASSETS]

One thought - why does P Goldschmidt always seem to go 3rd in every draft?
I can see Trout & Cabreara at 1-2 and interchangeable.
Is Goldschmidt really always the next best option?

[KJ Duke]

Here's another one, that's a little different than the other ones:

Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 3 Chris Davis 1B
1 4 Bryce Harper LF
1 5 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 6 Jose Fernandez SP
1 7 Billy Hamilton CF
1 8 Giancarlo Stanton RF
1 9 Jason Kipnis 2B
1 10 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 11 Stephen Strasburg SP
1 12 Freddie Freeman 1B
1 13 Yu Darvish SP
1 14 Craig Kimbrel MR
1 15 Max Scherzer SP

Round 2:
2 1 Andrew McCutchen CF
2 2 Carlos Gonzalez LF
2 3 Chris Sale SP
2 4 Eric Hosmer 1B
2 5 Gerrit Cole SP
2 6 Hanley Ramirez SS
2 7 Ian Desmond SS
2 8 Jean Segura SS
2 9 Kenley Jansen MR
2 10 Madison Bumgarner SP
2 11 Michael Wacha SP
2 12 Starling Marte LF
2 13 Wil Myers RF
2 14 Wilin Rosario C
2 15 Yasiel Puig RF

Round 3:
3 1 Alex Cobb SP
3 2 Aroldis Chapman MR
3 3 Carlos Gomez CF
3 4 David Price SP
3 5 Greg Holland MR
3 6 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
3 7 Josh Donaldson 3B
3 8 Julio Teheran SP
3 9 Koji Uehara MR
3 10 Kyle Seager 3B
3 11 Mark Trumbo 1B
3 12 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 13 Matt Moore SP
3 14 Salvador Perez C
3 15 Trevor Rosenthal MR

Round 4:
4 1 Adam Jones CF
4 2 Allen Craig 1B
4 3 Andrelton Simmons SS
4 4 Carlos Santana C
4 5 Danny Salazar SP
4 6 Elvis Andrus SS
4 7 Evan Longoria 3B
4 8 Everth Cabrera SS
4 9 Joey Votto 1B
4 10 Jose Altuve 2B
4 11 Kris Medlen SP
4 12 Masahiro Tanaka SP
4 13 Mike Minor SP
4 14 Ryan Braun RF
4 15 Shelby Miller SP

Round 5:
5 1 Andrew Cashner SP
5 2 Brandon Belt 1B
5 3 Buster Posey C
5 4 Dustin Pedroia 2B
5 5 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
5 6 Hisashi Iwakuma SP
5 7 Jarrod Parker SP
5 8 Jedd Gyorko 2B
5 9 Jordan Zimmermann SP
5 10 Matt Adams 1B
5 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 12 Sonny Gray MR
5 13 Tony Cingrani SP
5 14 Troy Tulowitzki SS
5 15 Zack Wheeler SP

Round 6:
6 1 Adam Wainwright SP
6 2 Addison Reed MR
6 3 Daniel Murphy 2B
6 4 David Wright 3B
6 5 Desmond Jennings CF
6 6 Domonic Brown LF
6 7 Ernesto Frieri MR
6 8 Homer Bailey SP
6 9 Jason Heyward RF
6 10 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 11 Jose Reyes SS
6 12 Manny Machado 3B
6 13 Mat Latos SP
6 14 Robinson Cano 2B
6 15 Steve Cishek MR

Thoughts?

(p.s., Within the same round, picks for Rounds 2-6 are listed alphabetically to protect the innocent. )

[DOUGHBOYS]

Believe me, there is no innocence in this draft...

[mbendar16]

6 14 Robinson Cano 2B

I was thinking we had to check Dan's heart after spending $240 on Cano

[DOUGHBOYS]

6 14 Robinson Cano 2B

I was thinking we had to check Dan's heart after spending $240 on Cano

Ha! You got that right, Mark!
I always feel like a waiter at a Millionaire's Party in this draft....
Oh, excuse me, hafta go, Mr. Fleming is snapping his fingers at me again....