Draft Prep List

[American Pickers]

I know this has been asked before, but is it not possible, with all of the technological advancements we have made in the 21st century, to have some sort of link on the Draft Prep page so that the Draft Prep list could be defaulted to a current ADP list? What I typically do is manually set the Draft Prep list to the current ADP list and then do my personalized 'tweaks' to the list from that point. But moving all of these players up and down the Draft Prep list manually is finger-numbing, monotonous, time consuming, subject to human error (mine!), and seemingly unnecessary--isn't eradicating this kind of problem what IT guys salivate over? As I am moving the 246th player of the day up 200 spots, then down 10 spots, then up three spots (and cursing under my breath with every keystroke) I can't help but think to myself that NFBC is forcing me to do penance for drafting my teams online.

[Bama]

I agree 100%. I try and do minimal draft prep because the list is so bad. Would be much simpler if it would just default to current ADP or something along those lines that you could choose. Most IT departments could set this up in 5 minutes but stats Guys would probably take about 5 f'n years.

[Greg Ambrosius]

The new Draft Prep tool will be available this week to make this easier for you. Look for it shortly.

As for resetting the player default list to the current ADP, that's not really our job for you. People who do the live drafts don't get updated ADP lists from us. You'll be able to easily adjust your online player default list shortly and then import your own list into future online drafts with the press of a button. That's what is coming out next for you.

[Bama]

Greg that don't sound good. Sounds like were still going to have a useless list of 1700 players that take forever to edit. I think it is Stats job to give a list that somewhat workable without hours and hours of editing to make it useable since we don't have any other choice but to use Stats shitty list.. Using the ADP was just a suggestion to make a usable list, but thanks for nothing anyway. in a minute for pick draft the list is critical, usually spend over half my time trying to get players loaded in the que and barely have time to concentrate on who's being picked.

[BK METS]

The new Draft Prep tool will be available this week to make this easier for you. Look for it shortly.

As for resetting the player default list to the current ADP, that's not really our job for you. People who do the live drafts don't get updated ADP lists from us. You'll be able to easily adjust your online player default list shortly and then import your own list into future online drafts with the press of a button. That's what is coming out next for you.

Perfect. I was going to ask for just the ability to import our own lists. Good deal... would love this for football as well.

[DOUGHBOYS]

At the same time, Ken, how easy do we want to make it for those folks that will be doing the Main Event, Online?
While some drafters think it is an advantage because 'Live drafters' get breaks after the tenth and 20th rounds, Online drafters would have the benefit of knowing who is the usual 'next' in most drafts. If anything, it makes Online boring.
For me personally, I think Online Main Event drafters should not have NFBC ADP spoon fed to them.

[Bama]

At the same time, Ken, how easy do we want to make it for those folks that will be doing the Main Event, Online?
While some drafters think it is an advantage because 'Live drafters' get breaks after the tenth and 20th rounds, Online drafters would have the benefit of knowing who is the usual 'next' in most drafts. If anything, it makes Online boring.
For me personally, I think Online Main Event drafters should not have NFBC ADP spoon fed to them.

I guess you got a point there. I done spent about 3 hrs editing the damn list and it still not F'n worth using. thinking about doing a sat or online 12 team myself but always have problems with these drafts mainly because of the shitty list. if we could make it easy to import our own that would be great but im not hodling my breath.

[American Pickers]

The new Draft Prep tool will be available this week to make this easier for you. Look for it shortly.

I will reserve judgment until I see the new Draft Prep tool, but from what you say further down in the post it sounds like manual up and down changes still have to be made, which is archaic and a colossal waste of time.

As for resetting the player default list to the current ADP, that’s not really our job for you.

I disagree in the sense that it is your responsibility and indeed in your self interest, whenever feasible, to make the games as user friendly as possible. If a desired goal is to grow NFBC, much of that growth will have to come online, as there is a finite time window for doing live drafts and auctions. If online is where the growth is, more thought needs to be given re: how to make online contests more attractive, and easier to use, for both new and repeat customers. And I was not asking you to reset the player default list to the current ADP for me, I was asking you to give me the option of doing it myself.

People who do the live drafts don’t get updated ADP lists from us.

People who do live drafts can absolutely get updated ADP lists from the NFBC website if they have a computer and wifi access, but I don’t even see how this is relevant to online drafts. If I was doing a live draft, I would be doing it from my self-generated excel spreadsheet (which has everything I want to know about every player). But everyone who does online drafts must use the Draft Prep list on the website to pick their players. All I am asking for is a more efficient way to begin the process of ordering players on that list.

[edelman24]

Bama...in football they had a list that was customized by position instead of 1 giant list and it was real easy to move everything around and get it in the order you wanted. I'm holding out hope that what they eventually unveil for baseball will be the same thing and once you put in a 2-3 hour session to do it one time you can import it to all your leagues and it will make life easier. The only thing that's worrisome is that I've been hearing for weeks it was coming and it's still not here, let's hope we get it this week as Greg says.

[Glenneration X]

I agree setting the Draft Prep page to the ADP list should not be the place of the NFBC. Organize your prep as you see fit. Let's not make online drafting too much easier than live drafting. It's easier as is.

I'm also not a big fan of leveling the playing field any further than it already is.

If I was doing a live draft, I would be doing it from my self-generated excel spreadsheet (which has everything I want to know about every player). But everyone who does online drafts must use the Draft Prep list on the website to pick their players.

Also, just a bit curious what keeps you from doing this same exact thing quoted above for an Online draft?

[Gekko]

Greg - I do more drafts than most of your customers. I think they should be listed alphabetically and that's it or if u have to, based on last years stats.

IMO anyone wanting it listed by adp is just being lazy and looking to shortcut their own work efforts. In this world of instant gratification I can see why

[American Pickers]

I agree setting the Draft Prep page to the ADP list should not be the place of the NFBC. Organize your prep as you see fit. Let's not make online drafting too much easier than live drafting. It's easier as is.

I'm also not a big fan of leveling the playing field any further than it already is.

If I was doing a live draft, I would be doing it from my self-generated excel spreadsheet (which has everything I want to know about every player). But everyone who does online drafts must use the Draft Prep list on the website to pick their players.

Also, just a bit curious what keeps you from doing this same exact thing quoted above for an Online draft?

I absolutely use the excel spreadsheet for drafting online, but players have to be picked from the Draft Prep list, which does not have players in the same order as the players on my spreadsheet. I am just looking for an efficient way to make the Draft Prep list match my excel spreadsheet without mindlessly moving 400 players up and down the list.

[Bama]

NO Mark. what we want is a list that don't take a 100 fucking hours of editing to get it where we can use it. Would love to just import my excel list by position and not have to spend any time editing a fucking useless list of 1700 players.

[TParsons]

Greg - I do more drafts than most of your customers. I think they should be listed alphabetically and that's it or if u have to, based on last years stats.

IMO anyone wanting it listed by adp is just being lazy and looking to shortcut their own work efforts. In this world of instant gratification I can see why

This...

If anything, make the software more efficient regarding the search function and ability to navigate, but don't provide prep shortcuts.

[Glenneration X]

I do understand the request for the Draft Prep tool to organize the players into positions. This seems like a fair request. ADP, not so much.

[Deadheadz]

Greg - I do more drafts than most of your customers. I think they should be listed alphabetically and that's it or if u have to, based on last years stats.

IMO anyone wanting it listed by adp is just being lazy and looking to shortcut their own work efforts. In this world of instant gratification I can see why

Gekko doesn't use the draft prep tool anyway so if you're going to take his lead the wouldn't be a draft prep tool at all let alone one that is efficient or easy to use.

Let's wait and see what the improvements are before getting too carried away.

My guess is those who use spreadsheets will be able to create a list ranked as they see fit and export it to a file format which will be compatible with the draft prep tool.

But if you want it sorted by ADP, you'll still have to figure out how to do that BEFORE you upload the list to NFBC.

[American Pickers]

Greg - I do more drafts than most of your customers. I think they should be listed alphabetically and that's it or if u have to, based on last years stats.

IMO anyone wanting it listed by adp is just being lazy and looking to shortcut their own work efforts. In this world of instant gratification I can see why

Gekko doesn't use the draft prep tool anyway so if you're going to take his lead the wouldn't be a draft prep tool at all let alone one that is efficient or easy to use.

Let's wait and see what the improvements are before getting too carried away.

My guess is those who use spreadsheets will be able to create a list ranked as they see fit and export it to a file format which will be compatible with the draft prep tool.

But if you want it sorted by ADP, you'll still have to figure out how to do that BEFORE you upload the list to NFBC.

"You'll be able to easily adjust your online player default list shortly and then import your own list into future online drafts with the press of a button." --GA

I think what this means is that initially the player default list will still have to be adjusted manually by moving players up and down the list. Once you get the list the way you want it, you can then import that list to future online drafts. I don't think this means that players like me who use spreadsheets will be able to directly import those spreadsheet rankings into the draft prep tool.

[Greg Ambrosius]

The new Draft Prep tool will be available this week to make this easier for you. Look for it shortly.

As for resetting the player default list to the current ADP, that's not really our job for you. People who do the live drafts don't get updated ADP lists from us. You'll be able to easily adjust your online player default list shortly and then import your own list into future online drafts with the press of a button. That's what is coming out next for you.

Perfect. I was going to ask for just the ability to import our own lists. Good deal... would love this for football as well.

This was available for football last year around mid-August. Once we get them done for both sports it should be there at the start of each season.

[American Pickers]

I agree setting the Draft Prep page to the ADP list should not be the place of the NFBC. Organize your prep as you see fit. Let's not make online drafting too much easier than live drafting. It's easier as is.

I'm also not a big fan of leveling the playing field any further than it already is.

If I was doing a live draft, I would be doing it from my self-generated excel spreadsheet (which has everything I want to know about every player). But everyone who does online drafts must use the Draft Prep list on the website to pick their players.

Also, just a bit curious what keeps you from doing this same exact thing quoted above for an Online draft?

I absolutely use the excel spreadsheet for drafting online, but players have to be picked from the Draft Prep list, which does not have players in the same order as the players on my spreadsheet. I am just looking for an efficient way to make the Draft Prep list match my excel spreadsheet without mindlessly moving 400 players up and down the list.

At least in this regard I think drafting live is easier than drafting online. If I were drafting live, my prep would be done when my excel spreadsheet was complete. Because I am drafting online, I have the additional step of trying to make my excel spreadsheet rankings match the draft prep list.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Bama...in football they had a list that was customized by position instead of 1 giant list and it was real easy to move everything around and get it in the order you wanted. I'm holding out hope that what they eventually unveil for baseball will be the same thing and once you put in a 2-3 hour session to do it one time you can import it to all your leagues and it will make life easier. The only thing that's worrisome is that I've been hearing for weeks it was coming and it's still not here, let's hope we get it this week as Greg says.

I've seen the finished product Mike and you can do this by position just like we had for football. In fact, it's the same setup as football. And I wish it was done too, but they are doing final testing now. One thing STATS does much differently than Fanball did was test, test, test the product before unveiling and while that takes extra time we don't have the same launches as we did before. I know it can be frustrating, but I think this will be a handy tool for everyone when it debuts this week.

[edelman24]

I'm looking forward to it Greg

[Money]

If you're able to import a list from an excel spreadsheet would it not be as easy as copy and paste the NFBC ADP into an excel spreadsheet and then import it in as your own list? You would then have the NFBC ADP as your default. I don't really see a reason to get excited. There has a to be a starting point or they would not attract the masses because most would not be willing to start from scratch. I'm not sure where the current default list comes from, nor do I care.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Greg - I do more drafts than most of your customers. I think they should be listed alphabetically and that's it or if u have to, based on last years stats.

IMO anyone wanting it listed by adp is just being lazy and looking to shortcut their own work efforts. In this world of instant gratification I can see why

Ken is criticizing our list, but everyone needs to remember that we created a player default list in late October before opening the online drafts in mid-November. I went through all of the players personally and created an initial list before there were any drafts so that we at least had some of the players in the right area to speed up drafts. We can't update these lists while 30+ drafts are ongoing and thus the default list is what it was in October.

I also don't think it's our job to update the list with an ADP list, and again, I don't even think it can be done with drafts already ongoing. But having it alphabetical would just prolong drafts as well as people would have to do a Search for every single pick. I don't think that helps, either.

The new Draft Prep tool should help you set a good list once and then easily tweak it going forward. You can import your last draft prep into your next online draft and just tweak your lists easily there. I think the football guys really liked this tool and it's the same tool for baseball. Again, I saw the finished product on Thursday and it should go live this week.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Greg - I do more drafts than most of your customers. I think they should be listed alphabetically and that's it or if u have to, based on last years stats.

IMO anyone wanting it listed by adp is just being lazy and looking to shortcut their own work efforts. In this world of instant gratification I can see why

Gekko doesn't use the draft prep tool anyway so if you're going to take his lead the wouldn't be a draft prep tool at all let alone one that is efficient or easy to use.

Let's wait and see what the improvements are before getting too carried away.

My guess is those who use spreadsheets will be able to create a list ranked as they see fit and export it to a file format which will be compatible with the draft prep tool.

But if you want it sorted by ADP, you'll still have to figure out how to do that BEFORE you upload the list to NFBC.

"You'll be able to easily adjust your online player default list shortly and then import your own list into future online drafts with the press of a button." --GA

I think what this means is that initially the player default list will still have to be adjusted manually by moving players up and down the list. Once you get the list the way you want it, you can then import that list to future online drafts. I don't think this means that players like me who use spreadsheets will be able to directly import those spreadsheet rankings into the draft prep tool.

Correct.

[Bama]

Still sounds like it going to hrs and hrs of editing to match our list but I guess we'll see some time next year. The Adp was a suggestion to have A Usable start point that wouldn't take Hrs and hrs of editing but Forgive me for not wanting to waste every fucking free hour I got to make a useful list for an online draft.