2014 Early Season Draft Results

[TOXIC ASSETS]

Why isn't Kris Medlen ever making it into the first 6 rounds of these drafts.
Just wondering.

[Roger Dorn]

No comments on the 12-team results?? Okay, let's get back to a few 15-teamers then:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Chris Davis 1B
1 7 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 8 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 9 Bryce Harper LF
1 10 Adam Jones CF
1 11 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Prince Fielder 1B
1 14 Adrian Beltre 3B
1 15 Troy Tulowitzki SS

Round 2:
2 1 Ryan Braun RF
2 2 Yu Darvish SP
2 3 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 4 Carlos Gomez CF
2 5 Evan Longoria 3B
2 6 Joey Votto 1B
2 7 Matt Kemp CF
2 8 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 9 Yasiel Puig RF
2 10 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 11 Jay Bruce RF
2 12 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 13 David Wright 3B
2 14 Jean Segura SS
2 15 Dustin Pedroia 2B

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Alex Rios RF
3 3 Justin Upton LF
3 4 Jose Bautista RF
3 5 Albert Pujols 1B
3 6 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 7 Max Scherzer SP
3 8 Adam Wainwright SP
3 9 Joe Mauer C
3 10 Jose Fernandez SP
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Jose Reyes SS
3 13 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 14 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 15 Buster Posey C

Round 4:
4 1 Cliff Lee SP
4 2 Felix Hernandez SP
4 3 Hunter Pence RF
4 4 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 5 Justin Verlander SP
4 6 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 7 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 8 Elvis Andrus SS
4 9 Chris Sale SP
4 10 Mark Trumbo 1B
4 11 Anibal Sanchez SP
4 12 Allen Craig 1B
4 13 David Price SP
4 14 Starling Marte LF
4 15 Adrian Gonzalez 1B

Round 5:
5 1 Zack Greinke SP
5 2 Matt Carpenter 2B
5 3 Kenley Jansen MR
5 4 Gerrit Cole SP
5 5 Wil Myers RF
5 6 Matt Holliday LF
5 7 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 8 Wilin Rosario C
5 9 Tony Cingrani SP
5 10 Jason Heyward RF
5 11 Josh Hamilton RF
5 12 Yadier Molina C
5 13 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 14 Alex Gordon LF
5 15 Ian Kinsler 2B

Round 6:
6 1 Jose Abreu 1B
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Carlos Santana C
6 4 Greg Holland MR
6 5 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 6 Everth Cabrera SS
6 7 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 8 Matt Cain SP
6 9 Brian McCann C
6 10 Billy Hamilton CF
6 11 Jedd Gyorko 2B
6 12 Mike Minor SP
6 13 Jose Altuve 2B
6 14 Pedro Alvarez 3B
6 15 James Shields SP

Thoughts?

Nice to see momma Cingrani getting her boy in the 5th.

[whale4evr]

1 13 Yasiel Puig RF

From Dodger camp: Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said Friday that the club is "paying attention" to Yasiel Puig's conditioning after the outfielder showed up to camp 26 pounds heavier than what he weighed at the end of last season.

Bust alert?

[Deadheadz]

1 13 Yasiel Puig RF

From Dodger camp: Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said Friday that the club is "paying attention" to Yasiel Puig's conditioning after the outfielder showed up to camp 26 pounds heavier than what he weighed at the end of last season.

Bust alert?

By "bust" you mean man-boobs?

[Greg Ambrosius]

I've fallen behind in my duties here. I'll give you a handful of results now:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Chris Davis 1B
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 8 Bryce Harper LF
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Ryan Braun RF
1 11 Robinson Cano 2B
1 12 Adam Jones CF
1 13 Yasiel Puig RF
1 14 Joey Votto 1B
1 15 Prince Fielder 1B

Round 2:
2 1 David Wright 3B
2 2 Hanley Ramirez SS
2 3 Carlos Gomez CF
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 6 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 7 Yu Darvish SP
2 8 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 9 Evan Longoria 3B
2 10 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 11 Jose Reyes SS
2 12 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 13 Max Scherzer SP
2 14 Alex Rios RF
2 15 Jose Bautista RF

Round 3:
3 1 Albert Pujols 1B
3 2 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 3 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 4 Jose Fernandez SP
3 5 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 6 Jay Bruce RF
3 7 Buster Posey C
3 8 Justin Upton LF
3 9 Ian Desmond SS
3 10 Jean Segura SS
3 11 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 12 Yoenis Cespedes LF
3 13 Elvis Andrus SS
3 14 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 15 Hunter Pence RF

Round 4:
4 1 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 2 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 3 Felix Hernandez SP
4 4 Starling Marte LF
4 5 Joe Mauer 1B
4 6 Adam Wainwright SP
4 7 Kenley Jansen MR
4 8 Chris Sale SP
4 9 Matt Kemp CF
4 10 Cliff Lee SP
4 11 Allen Craig 1B
4 12 Justin Verlander SP
4 13 Matt Holliday LF
4 14 David Price SP
4 15 Ryan Zimmerman 3B

Round 5:
5 1 Wilin Rosario C
5 2 Eric Hosmer 1B
5 3 Wil Myers RF
5 4 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 5 Zack Greinke SP
5 6 Billy Hamilton CF
5 7 Carlos Santana C
5 8 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 9 Greg Holland MR
5 10 David Ortiz DH
5 11 Everth Cabrera SS
5 12 Carlos Beltran RF
5 13 Brian McCann C
5 14 Yadier Molina C
5 15 Jonathan Lucroy C

Round 6:
6 1 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 2 Salvador Perez C
6 3 Kyle Seager 3B
6 4 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 5 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 6 Manny Machado 3B
6 7 Mark Trumbo RF
6 8 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 9 Jose Altuve 2B
6 10 Daniel Murphy 2B
6 11 Josh Hamilton RF
6 12 Koji Uehara MR
6 13 Jason Heyward RF
6 14 Jayson Werth RF
6 15 Matt Cain SP

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another one:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Chris Davis 1B
1 6 Bryce Harper LF
1 7 Adam Jones CF
1 8 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Robinson Cano 2B
1 11 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 12 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 13 Ryan Braun RF
1 14 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 15 Edwin Encarnacion 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 2 Prince Fielder 1B
2 3 Yu Darvish SP
2 4 Joey Votto 1B
2 5 Evan Longoria 3B
2 6 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 7 Jose Fernandez SP
2 8 Jose Bautista RF
2 9 Shin-Soo Choo CF
2 10 Yasiel Puig RF
2 11 Carlos Gomez CF
2 12 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 13 Alex Rios RF
2 14 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 15 David Wright 3B

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Jay Bruce RF
3 5 Hunter Pence RF
3 6 Giancarlo Stanton RF
3 7 Jose Reyes SS
3 8 Buster Posey C
3 9 Adam Wainwright SP
3 10 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 11 Felix Hernandez SP
3 12 Jean Segura SS
3 13 Kenley Jansen MR
3 14 Justin Upton LF
3 15 Albert Pujols 1B

Round 4:
4 1 Wilin Rosario C
4 2 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 3 Starling Marte LF
4 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 5 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 6 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 7 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 8 Chris Sale SP
4 9 Justin Verlander SP
4 10 Elvis Andrus SS
4 11 Josh Donaldson 3B
4 12 Cliff Lee SP
4 13 Allen Craig 1B
4 14 Matt Holliday LF
4 15 Ian Kinsler 2B

Round 5:
5 1 Cole Hamels SP
5 2 David Price SP
5 3 Zack Greinke SP
5 4 Mark Trumbo RF
5 5 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 6 Jordan Zimmermann SP
5 7 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 8 Jose Altuve 2B
5 9 Wil Myers RF
5 10 Billy Hamilton CF
5 11 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 12 Matt Kemp CF
5 13 Greg Holland MR
5 14 Joe Mauer 1B
5 15 Everth Cabrera SS

Round 6:
6 1 Gerrit Cole SP
6 2 Jason Heyward RF
6 3 Carlos Santana C
6 4 Josh Hamilton RF
6 5 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 6 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 7 Brian McCann C
6 8 Anthony Rizzo 1B
6 9 David Ortiz DH
6 10 Gio Gonzalez SP
6 11 Daniel Murphy 2B
6 12 Michael Wacha SP
6 13 Yadier Molina C
6 14 Alex Gordon LF
6 15 James Shields SP

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another DC:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 6 Chris Davis 1B
1 7 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 8 Adam Jones CF
1 9 Prince Fielder 1B
1 10 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 11 Bryce Harper LF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Ryan Braun RF
1 14 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 15 Yasiel Puig RF

Round 2:
2 1 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 2 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 3 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 4 Yu Darvish SP
2 5 Joey Votto 1B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 8 Evan Longoria 3B
2 9 David Wright 3B
2 10 Carlos Gomez CF
2 11 Adam Wainwright SP
2 12 Jay Bruce RF
2 13 Jean Segura SS
2 14 Jose Reyes SS
2 15 Alex Rios RF

Round 3:
3 1 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 2 Giancarlo Stanton RF
3 3 Justin Verlander SP
3 4 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 5 Ian Desmond SS
3 6 Jose Bautista RF
3 7 Max Scherzer SP
3 8 Jose Fernandez SP
3 9 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 10 Felix Hernandez SP
3 11 Eric Hosmer 1B
3 12 Buster Posey C
3 13 Elvis Andrus SS
3 14 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 15 Chris Sale SP

Round 4:
4 1 Greg Holland MR
4 2 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 3 Albert Pujols 1B
4 4 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 6 Justin Upton LF
4 7 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 8 Cliff Lee SP
4 9 Starling Marte LF
4 10 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 11 Hunter Pence RF
4 12 Allen Craig 1B
4 13 Mark Trumbo RF
4 14 Matt Kemp CF
4 15 Jason Heyward RF

Round 5:
5 1 Kenley Jansen MR
5 2 Matt Holliday LF
5 3 Wil Myers RF
5 4 Cole Hamels SP
5 5 Joe Mauer 1B
5 6 Everth Cabrera SS
5 7 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 8 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 9 Wilin Rosario C
5 10 David Price SP
5 11 Carlos Santana C
5 12 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 13 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 14 Carlos Beltran RF
5 15 Billy Hamilton CF

Round 6:
6 1 Alex Gordon LF
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Zack Greinke SP
6 4 Chase Headley 3B
6 5 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 6 Brian McCann C
6 7 Josh Hamilton RF
6 8 Yadier Molina C
6 9 Jose Altuve 2B
6 10 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 11 Desmond Jennings CF
6 12 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 13 Domonic Brown LF
6 14 Mat Latos SP
6 15 Salvador Perez C

Thoughts?

[rmrufe]

Here's another DC:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 6 Chris Davis 1B
1 7 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 8 Adam Jones CF
1 9 Prince Fielder 1B
1 10 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 11 Bryce Harper LF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Ryan Braun RF
1 14 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 15 Yasiel Puig RF

Round 2:
2 1 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 2 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 3 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 4 Yu Darvish SP
2 5 Joey Votto 1B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 8 Evan Longoria 3B
2 9 David Wright 3B
2 10 Carlos Gomez CF
2 11 Adam Wainwright SP
2 12 Jay Bruce RF
2 13 Jean Segura SS
2 14 Jose Reyes SS
2 15 Alex Rios RF

Round 3:
3 1 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 2 Giancarlo Stanton RF
3 3 Justin Verlander SP
3 4 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 5 Ian Desmond SS
3 6 Jose Bautista RF
3 7 Max Scherzer SP
3 8 Jose Fernandez SP
3 9 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 10 Felix Hernandez SP
3 11 Eric Hosmer 1B
3 12 Buster Posey C
3 13 Elvis Andrus SS
3 14 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 15 Chris Sale SP

Round 4:
4 1 Greg Holland MR
4 2 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 3 Albert Pujols 1B
4 4 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 6 Justin Upton LF
4 7 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 8 Cliff Lee SP
4 9 Starling Marte LF
4 10 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 11 Hunter Pence RF
4 12 Allen Craig 1B
4 13 Mark Trumbo RF
4 14 Matt Kemp CF
4 15 Jason Heyward RF

Round 5:
5 1 Kenley Jansen MR
5 2 Matt Holliday LF
5 3 Wil Myers RF
5 4 Cole Hamels SP
5 5 Joe Mauer 1B
5 6 Everth Cabrera SS
5 7 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 8 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 9 Wilin Rosario C
5 10 David Price SP
5 11 Carlos Santana C
5 12 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 13 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 14 Carlos Beltran RF
5 15 Billy Hamilton CF

Round 6:
6 1 Alex Gordon LF
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Zack Greinke SP
6 4 Chase Headley 3B
6 5 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 6 Brian McCann C
6 7 Josh Hamilton RF
6 8 Yadier Molina C
6 9 Jose Altuve 2B
6 10 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 11 Desmond Jennings CF
6 12 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 13 Domonic Brown LF
6 14 Mat Latos SP
6 15 Salvador Perez C

Thoughts?

This one looks familiar.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's one more:

1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Adam Jones CF
1 8 Robinson Cano 2B
1 9 Ryan Braun RF
1 10 Bryce Harper LF
1 11 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 12 Chris Davis 1B
1 13 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 14 Adrian Beltre 3B
1 15 Edwin Encarnacion 1B

Round 2:
2 1 David Wright 3B
2 2 Joey Votto 1B
2 3 Prince Fielder 1B
2 4 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 5 Yu Darvish SP
2 6 Evan Longoria 3B
2 7 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 8 Carlos Gomez CF
2 9 Albert Pujols 1B
2 10 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 11 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 12 Alex Rios RF
2 13 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 14 Yasiel Puig RF
2 15 Allen Craig 1B

Round 3:
3 1 Adam Wainwright SP
3 2 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 3 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 4 Jose Bautista RF
3 5 Ian Desmond SS
3 6 Max Scherzer SP
3 7 Jay Bruce RF
3 8 Justin Upton LF
3 9 Jose Reyes SS
3 10 Jean Segura SS
3 11 Jose Fernandez SP
3 12 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 13 Mark Trumbo RF
3 14 Felix Hernandez SP
3 15 Cliff Lee SP

Round 4:
4 1 Justin Verlander SP
4 2 Chris Sale SP
4 3 Buster Posey C
4 4 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 5 Starling Marte LF
4 6 Wil Myers RF
4 7 David Price SP
4 8 Elvis Andrus SS
4 9 Matt Kemp CF
4 10 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 11 Cole Hamels SP
4 12 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 13 Manny Machado 3B
4 14 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 15 Zack Greinke SP

Round 5:
5 1 Matt Holliday LF
5 2 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 3 Alex Gordon LF
5 4 Joe Mauer 1B
5 5 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 6 Hunter Pence RF
5 7 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 8 Kenley Jansen MR
5 9 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 10 Anthony Rizzo 1B
5 11 Matt Carpenter 2B
5 12 Greg Holland MR
5 13 Carlos Santana C
5 14 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 15 Jason Heyward RF

Round 6:
6 1 Wilin Rosario C
6 2 Josh Hamilton RF
6 3 Jose Abreu 1B
6 4 Jedd Gyorko 2B
6 5 Brian McCann C
6 6 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 7 Joe Nathan MR
6 8 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 9 Alex Cobb SP
6 10 Yadier Molina C
6 11 Billy Hamilton CF
6 12 David Ortiz DH
6 13 Jayson Werth RF
6 14 Jose Altuve 2B
6 15 Domonic Brown LF

Thoughts?

[Deadheadz]

4 14 Craig Kimbrel MR
6 2 Josh Hamilton RF
6 11 Billy Hamilton CF
Thoughts?

Kimbrel in the 4th and Biily AFTER Josh Hamilton?

Looks like the hype is subsiding and cooler heads are prevailing.
Less reaching means...value?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Let's start the day off with a few more draft results:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Prince Fielder 1B
1 9 Adam Jones CF
1 10 Ryan Braun RF
1 11 Bryce Harper LF
1 12 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 13 Robinson Cano 2B
1 14 Jason Kipnis 2B
1 15 Jacoby Ellsbury CF

Round 2:
2 1 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 2 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 3 Yu Darvish SP
2 4 Joey Votto 1B
2 5 David Wright 3B
2 6 Evan Longoria 3B
2 7 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 8 Alex Rios RF
2 9 Carlos Gomez CF
2 10 Jay Bruce RF
2 11 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 12 Yasiel Puig RF
2 13 Adam Wainwright SP
2 14 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 15 Max Scherzer SP

Round 3:
3 1 Albert Pujols 1B
3 2 Starling Marte LF
3 3 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 4 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 5 Ian Desmond SS
3 6 Jose Bautista RF
3 7 Chris Sale SP
3 8 Joe Mauer 1B
3 9 Justin Upton LF
3 10 Justin Verlander SP
3 11 Jose Reyes SS
3 12 Jose Fernandez SP
3 13 Jean Segura SS
3 14 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 15 Dustin Pedroia 2B

Round 4:
4 1 Cliff Lee SP
4 2 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 3 Hunter Pence RF
4 4 Wil Myers RF
4 5 Buster Posey C
4 6 David Price SP
4 7 Felix Hernandez SP
4 8 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 9 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 10 Billy Hamilton CF
4 11 Zack Greinke SP
4 12 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 13 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 14 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 15 Mark Trumbo RF

Round 5:
5 1 Greg Holland MR
5 2 Elvis Andrus SS
5 3 Allen Craig 1B
5 4 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 5 Carlos Santana C
5 6 Matt Kemp CF
5 7 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 8 Kenley Jansen MR
5 9 Matt Holliday LF
5 10 Josh Hamilton RF
5 11 Trevor Rosenthal MR
5 12 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 13 David Ortiz DH
5 14 Wilin Rosario C
5 15 Jason Heyward RF

Round 6:
6 1 Anthony Rizzo 1B
6 2 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 3 Jayson Werth RF
6 4 Jose Abreu 1B
6 5 Koji Uehara MR
6 6 Cole Hamels SP
6 7 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 8 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 9 Yadier Molina C
6 10 Brian McCann C
6 11 Everth Cabrera SS
6 12 Alex Gordon LF
6 13 Joe Nathan MR
6 14 Ian Kinsler 2B
6 15 Jedd Gyorko 2B

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

Here's another 15-team DC result:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 2 Mike Trout CF
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Ryan Braun RF
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Joey Votto 1B
1 15 Prince Fielder 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 2 Yasiel Puig RF
2 3 Evan Longoria 3B
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Yu Darvish SP
2 8 David Wright 3B
2 9 Carlos Gomez CF
2 10 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 11 Masahiro Tanaka SP
2 12 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Jose Bautista RF
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Albert Pujols 1B
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Jose Reyes SS
3 5 Felix Hernandez SP
3 6 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 7 Adam Wainwright SP
3 8 Ian Kinsler 2B
3 9 Freddie Freeman 1B
3 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 11 Cliff Lee SP
3 12 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Alex Rios RF
3 15 Wil Myers RF

Round 4:
4 1 Jason Heyward RF
4 2 Chris Sale SP
4 3 Jean Segura SS
4 4 Matt Holliday LF
4 5 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 6 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 7 Buster Posey C
4 8 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 9 Starling Marte LF
4 10 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 11 Yadier Molina C
4 12 Kenley Jansen MR
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 5:
5 1 Wilin Rosario C
5 2 David Price SP
5 3 Allen Craig 1B
5 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 6 Elvis Andrus SS
5 7 Joe Mauer 1B
5 8 Matt Kemp CF
5 9 Zack Greinke SP
5 10 Carlos Santana C
5 11 Greg Holland MR
5 12 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 13 Alex Gordon LF
5 14 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 15 Anthony Rizzo 1B

Round 6:
6 1 Jose Abreu 1B
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 4 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 5 Kyle Seager 3B
6 6 Mat Latos SP
6 7 Everth Cabrera SS
6 8 Cole Hamels SP
6 9 Mark Trumbo RF
6 10 Josh Hamilton RF
6 11 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 12 Carlos Beltran RF
6 13 Salvador Perez C
6 14 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 15 Jedd Gyorko 2B

Thoughts?

[Greg Ambrosius]

One more to start the morning:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 6 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Bryce Harper LF
1 9 Adam Jones CF
1 10 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 11 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Ryan Braun RF
1 14 Evan Longoria 3B
1 15 Joey Votto 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 2 Prince Fielder 1B
2 3 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 4 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 7 Carlos Gomez CF
2 8 Yu Darvish SP
2 9 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 10 Jay Bruce RF
2 11 Ian Desmond SS
2 12 David Wright 3B
2 13 Yasiel Puig RF
2 14 Shin-Soo Choo CF
2 15 Max Scherzer SP

Round 3:
3 1 Jean Segura SS
3 2 Adam Wainwright SP
3 3 Albert Pujols 1B
3 4 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 5 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 6 Jose Bautista RF
3 7 Chris Sale SP
3 8 Alex Rios RF
3 9 Hunter Pence RF
3 10 Jose Fernandez SP
3 11 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 12 Jose Reyes SS
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Wil Myers RF
3 15 Allen Craig 1B

Round 4:
4 1 Matt Holliday LF
4 2 Mark Trumbo RF
4 3 Stephen Strasburg SP
4 4 Cliff Lee SP
4 5 Starling Marte LF
4 6 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 7 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 8 Elvis Andrus SS
4 9 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 10 Felix Hernandez SP
4 11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 12 Josh Donaldson 3B
4 13 Buster Posey C
4 14 Kenley Jansen MR
4 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 5:
5 1 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 2 Wilin Rosario C
5 3 Matt Kemp CF
5 4 Zack Greinke SP
5 5 Carlos Santana C
5 6 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 7 David Price SP
5 8 Jason Heyward RF
5 9 Joe Mauer 1B
5 10 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 11 Yadier Molina C
5 12 Greg Holland MR
5 13 Brian McCann C
5 14 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 15 Manny Machado 3B

Round 6:
6 1 Jedd Gyorko 2B
6 2 Alex Gordon LF
6 3 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 4 Jayson Werth RF
6 5 Ian Kinsler 2B
6 6 Josh Hamilton RF
6 7 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 8 Salvador Perez C
6 9 Everth Cabrera SS
6 10 Jose Abreu 1B
6 11 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 12 Mike Minor SP
6 13 Jose Altuve 2B
6 14 Anthony Rizzo 1B
6 15 Jordan Zimmermann SP

Thoughts?

[Roger Dorn]

Here's another 15-team DC result:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 2 Mike Trout CF
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Ryan Braun RF
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Joey Votto 1B
1 15 Prince Fielder 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 2 Yasiel Puig RF
2 3 Evan Longoria 3B
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Yu Darvish SP
2 8 David Wright 3B
2 9 Carlos Gomez CF
2 10 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 11 Masahiro Tanaka SP
2 12 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Jose Bautista RF
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Albert Pujols 1B
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Jose Reyes SS
3 5 Felix Hernandez SP
3 6 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 7 Adam Wainwright SP
3 8 Ian Kinsler 2B
3 9 Freddie Freeman 1B
3 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 11 Cliff Lee SP
3 12 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Alex Rios RF
3 15 Wil Myers RF

Round 4:
4 1 Jason Heyward RF
4 2 Chris Sale SP
4 3 Jean Segura SS
4 4 Matt Holliday LF
4 5 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 6 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 7 Buster Posey C
4 8 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 9 Starling Marte LF
4 10 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 11 Yadier Molina C
4 12 Kenley Jansen MR
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 5:
5 1 Wilin Rosario C
5 2 David Price SP
5 3 Allen Craig 1B
5 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 6 Elvis Andrus SS
5 7 Joe Mauer 1B
5 8 Matt Kemp CF
5 9 Zack Greinke SP
5 10 Carlos Santana C
5 11 Greg Holland MR
5 12 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 13 Alex Gordon LF
5 14 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 15 Anthony Rizzo 1B

Round 6:
6 1 Jose Abreu 1B
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 4 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 5 Kyle Seager 3B
6 6 Mat Latos SP
6 7 Everth Cabrera SS
6 8 Cole Hamels SP
6 9 Mark Trumbo RF
6 10 Josh Hamilton RF
6 11 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 12 Carlos Beltran RF
6 13 Salvador Perez C
6 14 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 15 Jedd Gyorko 2B

Thoughts?

I get grabbing 'your guy' earlier than ADP. We've all done it. But how can Tanaka be anyone's guy let alone warrant pick 26?

[Atlas]

Here's another 15-team DC result:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 2 Mike Trout CF
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Ryan Braun RF
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Joey Votto 1B
1 15 Prince Fielder 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 2 Yasiel Puig RF
2 3 Evan Longoria 3B
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Yu Darvish SP
2 8 David Wright 3B
2 9 Carlos Gomez CF
2 10 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 11 Masahiro Tanaka SP
2 12 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Jose Bautista RF
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Albert Pujols 1B
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Jose Reyes SS
3 5 Felix Hernandez SP
3 6 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 7 Adam Wainwright SP
3 8 Ian Kinsler 2B
3 9 Freddie Freeman 1B
3 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 11 Cliff Lee SP
3 12 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Alex Rios RF
3 15 Wil Myers RF

Round 4:
4 1 Jason Heyward RF
4 2 Chris Sale SP
4 3 Jean Segura SS
4 4 Matt Holliday LF
4 5 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 6 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 7 Buster Posey C
4 8 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 9 Starling Marte LF
4 10 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 11 Yadier Molina C
4 12 Kenley Jansen MR
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 5:
5 1 Wilin Rosario C
5 2 David Price SP
5 3 Allen Craig 1B
5 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 6 Elvis Andrus SS
5 7 Joe Mauer 1B
5 8 Matt Kemp CF
5 9 Zack Greinke SP
5 10 Carlos Santana C
5 11 Greg Holland MR
5 12 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 13 Alex Gordon LF
5 14 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 15 Anthony Rizzo 1B

Round 6:
6 1 Jose Abreu 1B
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 4 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 5 Kyle Seager 3B
6 6 Mat Latos SP
6 7 Everth Cabrera SS
6 8 Cole Hamels SP
6 9 Mark Trumbo RF
6 10 Josh Hamilton RF
6 11 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 12 Carlos Beltran RF
6 13 Salvador Perez C
6 14 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 15 Jedd Gyorko 2B

Thoughts?

I get grabbing 'your guy' earlier than ADP. We've all done it. But how can Tanaka be anyone's guy let alone warrant pick 26?

First let me say that this wasn't my draft and that Tanaka at that point might be a bit too rich for me personally, but I understand it.

We put far too much weight in the ADP. If this drafter thinks that Tanaka can produce ace-like stuff on a revamped Yankee team with new offensive additions...more power to him. I got lucky last year and grabbed Chris Davis relatively late, passing on the other big name first basemen. If anyone was sure he was going to go yard over 50 times, he would not have lasted that long. (Josh Donaldson?)

I was actually reading an article on Masterball by Todd last night and this was pretty much the point. Why are we all married to ADP? Should be called YGGM (Your Guess is as Good as Mine). Yeah I'm making notes....but...

If you tell me in September that Tanaka went 19-6 with a low 3.00 era and maybe 175-185K's...wouldn't he be worth that slot?

He's speculating.
I'm speculating Davis won't touch 50 HR this year nor maintain last year's avg.... YGGM.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I also salute the drafter.
When the season begins, he won't remember where he drafted Tanaka, only that Tanaka is rostered.
A lot of us try and eke out as much of a bargain as we can for players. Then tell ourselves we were 'snaked'. 'Snaked is more of an excuse than an occurrence.We had control in getting our guy, but greed is a vicious fault. In doing so, we lose out on the guy we REALLY thought was going to have a good year. We are under the false impression that all players in the second round are better than all of those in the fifth round. It is not so. Look at any draft from a previous year.
Drafters are similar to Yard Salers. Some are looking to haggle for a quarter in obtaining an item, while another customer looks at an item that may be worth a lot of money and will pay full price or even more just to possess the item.
Could Tanaka have been had in the third or fourth round?
Probably.
But the word 'probably' infers that there is a chance he wouldn't. This drafter removed all doubt.

[EWeaver]

Here's another 15-team DC result:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 2 Mike Trout CF
1 3 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 4 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 7 Chris Davis 1B
1 8 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 9 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 10 Ryan Braun RF
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Robinson Cano 2B
1 13 Bryce Harper LF
1 14 Joey Votto 1B
1 15 Prince Fielder 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Troy Tulowitzki SS
2 2 Yasiel Puig RF
2 3 Evan Longoria 3B
2 4 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Yu Darvish SP
2 8 David Wright 3B
2 9 Carlos Gomez CF
2 10 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 11 Masahiro Tanaka SP
2 12 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 13 Jose Fernandez SP
2 14 Jose Bautista RF
2 15 Jay Bruce RF

Round 3:
3 1 Ian Desmond SS
3 2 Albert Pujols 1B
3 3 Max Scherzer SP
3 4 Jose Reyes SS
3 5 Felix Hernandez SP
3 6 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 7 Adam Wainwright SP
3 8 Ian Kinsler 2B
3 9 Freddie Freeman 1B
3 10 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 11 Cliff Lee SP
3 12 Madison Bumgarner SP
3 13 Justin Upton LF
3 14 Alex Rios RF
3 15 Wil Myers RF

Round 4:
4 1 Jason Heyward RF
4 2 Chris Sale SP
4 3 Jean Segura SS
4 4 Matt Holliday LF
4 5 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 6 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 7 Buster Posey C
4 8 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 9 Starling Marte LF
4 10 Matt Carpenter 2B
4 11 Yadier Molina C
4 12 Kenley Jansen MR
4 13 Hunter Pence RF
4 14 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 15 Justin Verlander SP

Round 5:
5 1 Wilin Rosario C
5 2 David Price SP
5 3 Allen Craig 1B
5 4 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
5 6 Elvis Andrus SS
5 7 Joe Mauer 1B
5 8 Matt Kemp CF
5 9 Zack Greinke SP
5 10 Carlos Santana C
5 11 Greg Holland MR
5 12 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 13 Alex Gordon LF
5 14 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 15 Anthony Rizzo 1B

Round 6:
6 1 Jose Abreu 1B
6 2 David Ortiz DH
6 3 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 4 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 5 Kyle Seager 3B
6 6 Mat Latos SP
6 7 Everth Cabrera SS
6 8 Cole Hamels SP
6 9 Mark Trumbo RF
6 10 Josh Hamilton RF
6 11 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 12 Carlos Beltran RF
6 13 Salvador Perez C
6 14 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 15 Jedd Gyorko 2B

Thoughts?

I get grabbing 'your guy' earlier than ADP. We've all done it. But how can Tanaka be anyone's guy let alone warrant pick 26?

First let me say that this wasn't my draft and that Tanaka at that point might be a bit too rich for me personally, but I understand it.

We put far too much weight in the ADP. If this drafter thinks that Tanaka can produce ace-like stuff on a revamped Yankee team with new offensive additions...more power to him. I got lucky last year and grabbed Chris Davis relatively late, passing on the other big name first basemen. If anyone was sure he was going to go yard over 50 times, he would not have lasted that long. (Josh Donaldson?)

I was actually reading an article on Masterball by Todd last night and this was pretty much the point. Why are we all married to ADP? Should be called YGGM (Your Guess is as Good as Mine). Yeah I'm making notes....but...

If you tell me in September that Tanaka went 19-6 with a low 3.00 era and maybe 175-185K's...wouldn't he be worth that slot?

He's speculating.
I'm speculating Davis won't touch 50 HR this year nor maintain last year's avg.... YGGM.

ADP in this sense is a general measure of opportunity cost. Straying wildly outside of ADP (or maybe earliest pick, depending on trend) for a specific player increases the probability that the drafter forwent the opportunity to have a more productive fantasy player paired with the reached-for-player than he now has the ability to select based on inventory being depleted in a somewhat known fashion (ADP) by the other drafters. It's not about the guy you got, it's about the guy you didn't get.

[Roger Dorn]

I also salute the drafter.
When the season begins, he won't remember where he drafted Tanaka, only that Tanaka is rostered.
A lot of us try and eke out as much of a bargain as we can for players. Then tell ourselves we were 'snaked'. 'Snaked is more of an excuse than an occurrence.We had control in getting our guy, but greed is a vicious fault. In doing so, we lose out on the guy we REALLY thought was going to have a good year. We are under the false impression that all players in the second round are better than all of those in the fifth round. It is not so. Look at any draft from a previous year.
Drafters are similar to Yard Salers. Some are looking to haggle for a quarter in obtaining an item, while another customer looks at an item that may be worth a lot of money and will pay full price or even more just to possess the item.
Could Tanaka have been had in the third or fourth round?
Probably.
But the word 'probably' infers that there is a chance he wouldn't. This drafter removed all doubt.

First round would actually remove all doubt.

My original comment had little to do with 'reaching' vs ADP. I think we all agree successful teams aren't governed by ADP lists. Same draft, same team picked Molina in round 4. Good for him for taking his guy. Like I said originally, we all do it and most of the time it feels great taking our guy several picks/rounds before his ADP.

My thought has more to do with Tanaka. And how can he be anyone's guy given he hasn't thrown a MLB pitch yet.


Atlas wrote "If you tell me in September that Tanaka went 19-6 with a low 3.00 era and maybe 175-185K's...wouldn't he be worth that slot"

.......this line barely justifies a 2nd round pick

[DOUGHBOYS]

I also salute the drafter.
When the season begins, he won't remember where he drafted Tanaka, only that Tanaka is rostered.
A lot of us try and eke out as much of a bargain as we can for players. Then tell ourselves we were 'snaked'. 'Snaked is more of an excuse than an occurrence.We had control in getting our guy, but greed is a vicious fault. In doing so, we lose out on the guy we REALLY thought was going to have a good year. We are under the false impression that all players in the second round are better than all of those in the fifth round. It is not so. Look at any draft from a previous year.
Drafters are similar to Yard Salers. Some are looking to haggle for a quarter in obtaining an item, while another customer looks at an item that may be worth a lot of money and will pay full price or even more just to possess the item.
Could Tanaka have been had in the third or fourth round?
Probably.
But the word 'probably' infers that there is a chance he wouldn't. This drafter removed all doubt.

First round would actually remove all doubt.

My original comment had little to do with 'reaching' vs ADP. I think we all agree successful teams aren't governed by ADP lists. Same draft, same team picked Molina in round 4. Good for him for taking his guy. Like I said originally, we all do it and most of the time it feels great taking our guy several picks/rounds before his ADP.

My thought has more to do with Tanaka. And how can he be anyone's guy given he hasn't thrown a MLB pitch yet.


Atlas wrote "If you tell me in September that Tanaka went 19-6 with a low 3.00 era and maybe 175-185K's...wouldn't he be worth that slot"

.......this line barely justifies a 2nd round pick

We could go 'round all day on this subject, but I'll be brief.
Major League experience has little to do with a drafter who is sold on a player.
Mike Trout hit .220 in his first taste of the Major Leagues. He was barely drafted or not drafted at all the next year.
Tanaka, like Trout, had success in other leagues. Trout owners rejoiced when Trout had the year he did.
I'm not trying to compare Tanaka to Trout in an on-field type of way, just the comparison in how little they see Major League fields before blossoming.
This drafter, and I have no idea who it is, is sold on Tanaka. Major League experience or not. Whether he is right or wrong will not be known till after April.

If I were to be guaranteed the mentioned stats from a second round starter with good WHIP, I would take it and move on with the rest of my draft.

[Edwards Kings]

Trout, Cabrera, Goldschmidt, McCutchen...click!

Trout, Cabrera, Goldschmidt, McCutchen...click!

Trout, Cabrera, Goldschmidt, McCutchen...click!

Trout, Cabrera, Goldschmidt, McCutchen...click!

Trout, Cabrera, Goldschmidt, McCutchen...click!

Somebody move the needle...the record is scratched.

[Atlas]

I also salute the drafter.
When the season begins, he won't remember where he drafted Tanaka, only that Tanaka is rostered.
A lot of us try and eke out as much of a bargain as we can for players. Then tell ourselves we were 'snaked'. 'Snaked is more of an excuse than an occurrence.We had control in getting our guy, but greed is a vicious fault. In doing so, we lose out on the guy we REALLY thought was going to have a good year. We are under the false impression that all players in the second round are better than all of those in the fifth round. It is not so. Look at any draft from a previous year.
Drafters are similar to Yard Salers. Some are looking to haggle for a quarter in obtaining an item, while another customer looks at an item that may be worth a lot of money and will pay full price or even more just to possess the item.
Could Tanaka have been had in the third or fourth round?
Probably.
But the word 'probably' infers that there is a chance he wouldn't. This drafter removed all doubt.

Yep.

[Atlas]

ADP in this sense is a general measure of opportunity cost. Straying wildly outside of ADP (or maybe earliest pick, depending on trend) for a specific player increases the probability that the drafter forwent the opportunity to have a more productive fantasy player paired with the reached-for-player than he now has the ability to select based on inventory being depleted in a somewhat known fashion (ADP) by the other drafters. It's not about the guy you got, it's about the guy you didn't get.

If I may....
Its not about the guy you didn't get. It's about the guy you didn't want.

[Atlas]

"My thought has more to do with Tanaka. And how can he be anyone's guy given he hasn't thrown a MLB pitch yet. "


Same way he was the Yank's "guy" without throwing a MLB pitch
They saw something they liked and speculated on the return.
Other teams didn't....or more to the point...it was too rich for their blood.
Not sure of the return or...dare I say..."value" Same as this drafter did.
Maybe they overpaid...maybe they didn't. Let's see in September.
Hidecki Matsui or Kei Igawa?

But as a Yankee fan...I'd rather see my team speculating on a big return than be safe and taking second tier pitchers in the hopes of getting by. And yes, this takes money out of their (large) budget that would preclude another quality selection much as this drafter used his second pick and negated a different quality selection.

Meh...good debate for a slow Wednesday.

[Roger Dorn]

"My thought has more to do with Tanaka. And how can he be anyone's guy given he hasn't thrown a MLB pitch yet. "


Same way he was the Yank's "guy" without throwing a MLB pitch
They saw something they liked and speculated on the return.
Other teams didn't....or more to the point...it was too rich for their blood.
Not sure of the return or...dare I say..."value" Same as this drafter did.
Maybe they overpaid...maybe they didn't. Let's see in September.
Hidecki Matsui or Kei Igawa?

But as a Yankee fan...I'd rather see my team speculating on a big return than be safe and taking second tier pitchers in the hopes of getting by. And yes, this takes money out of their (large) budget that would preclude another quality selection much as this drafter used his second pick and negated a different quality selection.

Meh...good debate for a slow Wednesday.

Wednesdays will never be the same!

Some further thoughts
The Yankees have the luxury of time while this owner needs a 2nd round return this year.
For the same $ / commitment (e.g. round 2 pick) I bet the Yankees would prefer some SPs taken after Tanaka in this draft.

I have Tanaka in one league and he could be very good. But I took a different risk to get him. At the time of the DC league I took Tanaka it appeared he wasn't going to get posted. At 321 overall he seemed like an worthwhile bet. I guess one could argue that that pick at that time was more risky than this recent round 2 pick. Certainly more uncertain. As SP6 lower opportunity cost, maybe.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I peek in on the NFFC Boards sometimes
This reminds me of a disagreement there. It came after Peyton Manning had thrown tons of touchdown passes in his opening game. There were more drafts scheduled and Mannings stats would count for those who drafted him.
The argument FOR drafting Manning was that all those stats would be assured for the first week of the season and a team would probably be on their way to a 1-0 start.
The argument against Manning was that previous drafters had already taken him in later rounds and the chance for an Overall Championship would be lessened in taking Manning.
It made for excellent conversation, just as this does. In the first draft of the season, Tanaka went off the Boards with the 322nd pick.
Football is different than baseball in that it is more of a sprint than marathon, plus less positions to cover.
Does the guy who took Tanaka have a leg up on the Overall?
Maybe.
At the same time, that early start had him picking Machado in the fifth and Iwakuma in the sixth.
The whole damn thing makes it all very interesting indeed.