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Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:30 am

Looking at my lineup for the upcoming week I see Khris Davis and Colby Rasmus on my bench and I'm thinking I should keep one but not both since I could use some more pitching.

I'm leaning on keeping Davis and only considering releasing Rasmus because he's so streaky. Yes he should get 25+ HR this year but if he's getting them while on my bench and putting up crap numbers while he's active I'd just rather cut bait.

Are there any other streaky players out there causing similar grief for you guys?
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Post by Bama » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:34 am

Damn, wish you were in one of my leagues. Would love to have either of them on my team but giving other owners in your league gifts like that is sure fire way to lose.

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Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:36 am

Bama wrote:Damn, wish you were in one of my leagues. Would love to have either of them on my team but giving other owners in your league gifts like that is sure fire way to lose.
It's in Rotowire 12-team so there's a lot more depth here than what I need.
Are you suggesting it's to my advantage to keep a guy like Rasmus on my bench all season in case of injury and if nothing else to keep him off my opponents' rosters?
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Post by Bama » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:51 am

If you cant find spots to get Davis or Rasmus in your lineup then your not doing something right, but we already knew that.
I guesss if you got seven or so better OF then go ahead and let some other team enjoy them .

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Post by Yah Mule » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:16 am

I actually think I do understand what you're saying, Deadheadz. You see a streaky player and you figure that if he plays all season, his numbers will even out, but if he only plays part time, you might only have him active when he's slumping. There are several reasons why you shouldn't worry about this. First, all players slump. Even the best hitter in your lineup could go 3-28 in a given week. You have 14 hitters active every scoring period. Even in good offensive weeks, you're typically going to have one or two guys who aren't doing much. Second, the ability to change lineups twice a week means you can always shuttle this guy into the lineup after he has a couple good games and see if he goes on a tear. I think it goes without saying that depth is important. I have teams where I drafted Avisail Garcia, Oswaldo Arcia and Kole Calhoun. I would love an opportunity to acquire a guy like Davis or Rasmus right now. This leads into what Bama told you. Strengthening an opponent doesn't do you any favors. I normally don't worry too much about what other teams in the league are doing, but I'm not going to make things easier for them if I can help it.

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Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:57 am

Bama wrote:If you cant find spots to get Davis or Rasmus in your lineup then your not doing something right, but we already knew that.
I guesss if you got seven or so better OF then go ahead and let some other team enjoy them .
This is the way I'm ranking my OF on that team in terms of who has to start and who has to sit. There's no room in my Util so I start only 5.

Corey Hart
Rajai Davis
Billy Hamilton
Martin Prado
Alejandro De Aza
Khris Davis
Colby Rasmus

I can't see how any team could have 7 better OF than Rasmus without lacking in other areas.
It's really frustrating that whenever I start Rasmus he goes 0-fer and whenever I sit him he starts hitting. It sounds like the only way to get his value is to start him always.
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Post by ToddZ » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:22 pm

Not all splits are actionable but Rasmus' are.

He hits much better v RHP and (at least last season) better at home.

I don't worry about the HvA as much as v RHP. If he has a weekend series against 3 RHP, he's in there. 2-of-3 and it depends. If he faces 3 RHP on Mon-Thurs, he's in there. Otherwise it depends.
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Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:27 pm

ToddZ wrote:Not all splits are actionable but Rasmus' are.

He hits much better v RHP and (at least last season) better at home.

I don't worry about the HvA as much as v RHP. If he has a weekend series against 3 RHP, he's in there. 2-of-3 and it depends. If he faces 3 RHP on Mon-Thurs, he's in there. Otherwise it depends.
That's pretty helpful, thanks.
Now if I could only figure out if Baltimore TBA (Weds &Thur) pitches LH or RH it would make my decision a lot easier. :?
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Post by Bama » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:35 pm

Wow and I thought you had 5 knockout OF besides them 2 but you got a bunch of shit guys. You could almost rank them the opposite of what you got for end of the season production.

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Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:58 pm

Bama wrote:Wow and I thought you had 5 knockout OF besides them 2 but you got a bunch of shit guys. You could almost rank them the opposite of what you got for end of the season production.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
I'll be keeping both, FYI. KDavis needs to start living up to his hype and Rasmus can either start every time or sit if he's got multiple LHP facing him.

That said, Rasmus faced a RHP today and has still sucked hard.
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Post by Bronx Yankees » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:13 pm

Another reason to keep these guys is that they do different things for you. If you need steals, roll with BHam and Rajii; KDavis and Rasmus are more for power (at least I hope that is the case with KDavis now that he popped his HR cherry today). I also like KDavis and Rasmus over most of your other OF over the long haul. Finally, if possible, see if you can put Prado in your MI position; he's kind of wasted as an OF IMO.

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Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:50 pm

Well, I guess I can throw David Murphy into the mix. Got him with a contingency bid when I failed to get Alberto Callaspo.

I'll ride Murphy while he's hot and sit KDavis and Rasmus until they play in hitters ballparks.
Pitching will have to wait.


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Post by Deadheadz » Fri May 16, 2014 2:17 pm

Bama wrote:If you cant find spots to get Davis or Rasmus in your lineup then your not doing something right, but we already knew that.
I guesss if you got seven or so better OF then go ahead and let some other team enjoy them .

You can have Khris Davis. I've gotta play him this weekend because Rasmus is on the DL but look for KD to be dropped in many leagues including my 12-teamer.

The hype for this guy was similar to that for Salazar. All based on partial season data AKA small sample size.
I regret buying into the hype but thankful he's on only one of my rosters.

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Post by joshguy » Fri May 16, 2014 5:42 pm

the guy I would be sitting is Prado. Most likely, whats the best that he will do? Hit for avg, thats it. His 10 HR and 10 SB he gets in a year, good luck at trying to guess those. At least Rasmus and Davis have big HR and RBI potential, even though they havent done it much yet.

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Post by Deadheadz » Fri May 16, 2014 7:09 pm

joshguy wrote:the guy I would be sitting is Prado. Most likely, whats the best that he will do? Hit for avg, thats it. His 10 HR and 10 SB he gets in a year, good luck at trying to guess those. At least Rasmus and Davis have big HR and RBI potential, even though they havent done it much yet.
Last season I rode Prado for 2 months and finally gave up. A week later he started playing well and was over .300 the rest of the way.
Sit him, yes. But he's not a player I'd drop. I'm not as patient with Khris Davis who doesn't have much of a track record at all.

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Post by Steel Lugnuts » Fri May 16, 2014 8:46 pm

"postby Bama » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:35 pm

Wow and I thought you had 5 knockout OF besides them 2 but you got a bunch of shit guys. You could almost rank them the opposite of what you got for end of the season production."

Too funny Bama, I thought the same thing, that OF is not that good to be worrying about who to drop, flip a coin!

That actually might be the worst 12-team OF I've seen in a long time. You better be stacked everywhere else.

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Post by Steel Lugnuts » Fri May 16, 2014 8:57 pm

ToddZ wrote:Not all splits are actionable but Rasmus' are.

He hits much better v RHP and (at least last season) better at home.

I don't worry about the HvA as much as v RHP. If he has a weekend series against 3 RHP, he's in there. 2-of-3 and it depends. If he faces 3 RHP on Mon-Thurs, he's in there. Otherwise it depends.
Ah yes, the ol' splits...perhaps this is why my teams suck, no way do I have the time or the patience to move guys in and out of the lineup based on who (or who the might play), during week. I pretty much set my lineup, and if I have time or think about it, I may make some moves on Wednesday or Thursday, but doesn't happen very often.

I remember when drafting Smoak, the plan was to only play him when facing mostly righties, and platoon/switch with a right-handed hitter against mostly lefties, etc...ha, ha! :?

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