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Re: ROI

Post by Yellow Ledbetters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:27 pm

Bottom line is I'm a fantasy God. I honestly believe I'm the best player the NFBC has. However even the best have to study. That is what I'm going to do. I've wasted two days arguing with people and pointing out their flaws. TIme to get back to what makes me one of the top minds in the industry. Just like Lynch I'm #Bout That Action. WInning them all in 2015.

Won't be around to answer your questions but good luck to all of you even the people i don't like. If you are in my league you will need it.

God bless and peace, love and happiness.

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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:44 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:Bottom line is I'm a fantasy God.
i don't mind fantasy smack talk.

before declaring yourself a fantasy god, can you post your roster from one of the teams you drafted so far this year. pick the one you think is best. i'll take a look and give you an unbiased opinion and let you know if you are god-like

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Re: ROI

Post by CC's Desperados » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:47 pm

Gekko wrote:
Yellow Ledbetters wrote:Bottom line is I'm a fantasy God.
i don't mind fantasy smack talk.

before declaring yourself a fantasy god, can you post your roster from one of the teams you drafted so far this year. pick the one you think is best. i'll take a look and give you an unbiased opinion and let you know if you are god-like
I was thinking of you when I saw the post....something like a gift from the Cindy and GG marriage a few years back.
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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:50 pm

CC's Desperados wrote:

I was think of you when I saw the post....something like a gift from the Cindy and GG marriage a few years back.

if only cindy was still around. bitch left me... :lol: :twisted:

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Re: ROI

Post by Yellow Ledbetters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:51 pm

Be glad to Gekko.
Trying to get some real work done before Duke Carolina tip off but will be around later to post that.

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Re: ROI

Post by Bama » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:53 pm

Good to see you on the rebound with the Fantasy God, I think you 2 are probably made for each other. ;)

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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:53 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:Be glad to Gekko.
Trying to get some real work done before Duke Carolina tip off but will be around later to post that.
looking forward to seeing it 8-)

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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:54 pm

Bama wrote:Good to see you on the rebound with the Fantasy God, I think you 2 are probably made for each other. ;)
:P

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Re: ROI

Post by Yellow Ledbetters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:18 pm

C Posey, Zunino
1 Napoli
2 Phillips
3 Machado
SS Simmons
CI LaRoche
MI Utley
O Trout, Ellsbury, Springer,J Hamilton, Holliday
U K Vargas
P Gray, Smyly, Holland, Tillman, Y Ventura, Weaver, M Gonzales, Melancon, Papelbon

Reserves: Smoak, Dominquez, Salty plus a lot of MR with good ratios to supplement weaknesses of SP.

Team will struggle with BA, middle of pack SB, dominate HR/RBI
PItching goal is to utilize MR to compete in ratios, Wins are luck anyway.

$400 DC Won't compete nationally but like odds of placing.

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Re: ROI

Post by Yellow Ledbetters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:24 pm

A team I actually like better

C Molina, Ramos
1 Trumbo
2 Infante
3 Beltre
SS A Ramirez
CI K Morales
MI Utley
OF Calhoun, Granderson, Markakis, Marte, McCutchen
U Werth
P Wainwright, Koechel, Latos, Sanchez, Smyly, Tillman, Holland, Uehera, Melancon, Holland
Reserves Singleton, Aaron Hill, ARod, backups of my closers, other MR's good ratios

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Re: ROI

Post by CC's Desperados » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:29 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:C Posey, Zunino
1 Napoli
2 Phillips
3 Machado
SS Simmons
CI LaRoche
MI Utley
O Trout, Ellsbury, Springer,J Hamilton, Holliday
U K Vargas
P Gray, Smyly, Holland, Tillman, Y Ventura, Weaver, M Gonzales, Melancon, Papelbon

Reserves: Smoak, Dominquez, Salty plus a lot of MR with good ratios to supplement weaknesses of SP.

Team will struggle with BA, middle of pack SB, dominate HR/RBI
PItching goal is to utilize MR to compete in ratios, Wins are luck anyway.

$400 DC Won't compete nationally but like odds of placing.
I don't have time to get into this in depth. I like the start with Trout/Ellsbury/Posey. You took an edge in 3 position plus set your foundation in speed. The choice in the middle infield are solid players, but the lack of speed end up putting you at risk in this area. It's almost like you gave up your early edge in speed. You could possibly overcome this shortfall with speed on your bench plus Trout and Ellsbury could run wild to put in better position. I guess for me I'd like to see one 20+ base stealer on this roster to help reach your targets.

The 3 closers are nice, but they will surely put your wins at risk plus the aces in today's game are so strong even a solid bullpen will leave you short in ERA and Whip.

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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:38 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:C Posey, Zunino
1 Napoli
2 Phillips
3 Machado
SS Simmons
CI LaRoche
MI Utley
O Trout, Ellsbury, Springer,J Hamilton, Holliday
U K Vargas
P Gray, Smyly, Holland, Tillman, Y Ventura, Weaver, M Gonzales, Melancon, Papelbon

Reserves: Smoak, Dominquez, Salty plus a lot of MR with good ratios to supplement weaknesses of SP.

Team will struggle with BA, middle of pack SB, dominate HR/RBI
PItching goal is to utilize MR to compete in ratios, Wins are luck anyway.

$400 DC Won't compete nationally but like odds of placing.
This is a $400DC where u locked up trout, posey, ellsbury and springer???

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Re: ROI

Post by MadCow Sez » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:02 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:C Posey, Zunino
1 Napoli
2 Phillips
3 Machado
SS Simmons
CI LaRoche
MI Utley
O Trout, Ellsbury, Springer,J Hamilton, Holliday
U K Vargas
P Gray, Smyly, Holland, Tillman, Y Ventura, Weaver, M Gonzales, Melancon, Papelbon

Reserves: Smoak, Dominquez, Salty plus a lot of MR with good ratios to supplement weaknesses of SP.

Team will struggle with BA, middle of pack SB, dominate HR/RBI
PItching goal is to utilize MR to compete in ratios, Wins are luck anyway.

$400 DC Won't compete nationally but like odds of placing.
Best case I see is 95 points...which may get you 3rd in league if it's tight. Not knowing if anyone else in your league has 3 closers or went power heavy, I'll give you 45 total in Saves, HR, and RBI. If your BA, SB, and R all fall in your favor you may get 22 more points total. If your pitching decimals break in your favor, you may see 18, as any MR blowup is going to have bigger impact on you. You won't get much on Ks or wins and I'd be shocked if you get 10 points there.

and here's a thought...respect has to be earned. you haven't
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Re: ROI

Post by Yellow Ledbetters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:08 pm

Don't need or want your respect but thanks for reviewing the team. Always like talking baseball.

Gordon-yes I was happy with my start in that league...

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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:12 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:Don't need or want your respect but thanks for reviewing the team. Always like talking baseball.

Gordon-yes I was happy with my start in that league...

Props to you in realizing those guys were good picks there AND capitalizing on it by selecting them. Some of the owners in that league must be asleep at the wheel. With a good spring, I can see springer zooming into the second round. 40hr and 20sb is in the realm of possibility for him. Again, great start. I'll comment on the remainder of the roster later tonight after I review it in more detail. Thanks for posting

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Re: ROI

Post by Yellow Ledbetters » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:14 pm

Important point....

2 guys drafted all pitching in first 9-10 rounds so pitching isn't as bad as it seems. Also i'm not the only one with a dominant offensive start.

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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:18 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:Important point....

2 guys drafted all pitching in first 9-10 rounds so pitching isn't as bad as it seems. Also i'm not the only one with a dominant offensive start.

It always fun to draft with people trying bizarre strategies

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Re: ROI

Post by Glenneration X » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:49 pm

Curious if that's Greg Holland or Derek Holland for the Trout team.

I'm going to assume Derek based on how you listed your pitchers from starters to closers. If I'm correct, both Childs and Semsel might have to relook at their analysis.

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Re: ROI

Post by KJ Duke » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:07 pm

A couple of blah teams, 0-7 here we come. Keep trying ...

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Re: ROI

Post by CC's Desperados » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:11 pm

Glenneration X wrote:Curious if that's Greg Holland or Derek Holland for the Trout team.

I'm going to assume Derek based on how you listed your pitchers from starters to closers. If I'm correct, both Childs and Semsel might have to relook at their analysis.
I don't see anyone else but Greg Holland to be picked on the 4/5 turn.

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Re: ROI

Post by Bama » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:25 pm

Glenneration X wrote:Curious if that's Greg Holland or Derek Holland for the Trout team.

I'm going to assume Derek based on how you listed your pitchers from starters to closers. If I'm correct, both Childs and Semsel might have to relook at their analysis.

I was thinking Greg too when I looked at it but I think your right. I don't like this team even if its greg Holland and it disturbs me a little that my sometimes partner does. I was thinking about 65 max if everything goes right. I guess its good that our friend put it out their but if he needs to get an honest assessment. good in hrs'and rbi's but the pitching is not going to compete and short on speed, average/runs is probably in the middle. I don't like the Springer pick, its probably great that its behind his adp but the 3rd OF in first 4 picks left you short at a lot of other spots and started the downfall of the giving up your edge in cats that you had gained in the first 3 picks. A top SP or even the best guy from CI/MI would have been better.

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Re: ROI

Post by MadCow Sez » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:43 pm

Bama wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:Curious if that's Greg Holland or Derek Holland for the Trout team.

I'm going to assume Derek based on how you listed your pitchers from starters to closers. If I'm correct, both Childs and Semsel might have to relook at their analysis.

I was thinking Greg too when I looked at it but I think your right. I don't like this team even if its greg Holland and it disturbs me a little that my sometimes partner does. I was thinking about 65 max if everything goes right. I guess its good that our friend put it out their but if he needs to get an honest assessment. good in hrs'and rbi's but the pitching is not going to compete and short on speed, average/runs is probably in the middle. I don't like the Springer pick, its probably great that its behind his adp but the 3rd OF in first 4 picks left you short at a lot of other spots and started the downfall of the giving up your edge in cats that you had gained in the first 3 picks. A top SP or even the best guy from CI/MI would have been better.
Assumption is that has to be Greg Holland in rd 5. If it's Derek, he won't see 80 points as the decimals fall short and he loses 5-7 points from saves.

In my best case calculation, half his points are from 3 cats. The other 7 cats have to get him 7 points each. I see his BA lower than you do, with 5 points being best case and steals likely in the 6-8 range with runs in 7-9 range. Wins are 5 points best case (streaming and vulturing by MRs) and Ks the same (lack of IP to get the volume from MRs so you have to stream pitchers putting decimals at risk, therefore no upside on Ks even if the MRs maintain 1K/IP). The decimals are the only way he cashes....and that's if no MR blows up. He has to get 18 points from decimals which is doable, but not likely.
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Re: ROI

Post by Gekko » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:06 pm

Yellow Ledbetters wrote:C Posey, Zunino
1 Napoli
2 Phillips
3 Machado
SS Simmons
CI LaRoche
MI Utley
O Trout, Ellsbury, Springer,J Hamilton, Holliday
U K Vargas
P Gray, Smyly, Holland, Tillman, Y Ventura, Weaver, M Gonzales, Melancon, Papelbon

Reserves: Smoak, Dominquez, Salty plus a lot of MR with good ratios to supplement weaknesses of SP.
first off...since it's a DC, you could have helpful guys on the bench that you haven't mentioned.

offense...like the start as mentioned before. power appears impressive. if hamilton out, not sure who your OF fill in is. as u stated, light on sb.

pitching...nice RP; however 3 is overkill that early. papelbon shoulda been another SP. rolling out 3 RP bad for wins/K's. i'm also not a fan of filling in with "MR with good ratios". that's a losing strategy every time in this league...at least when i've tried it.

Gray, Ventura, Smyly, weaver a solid foundation. trouble is it doesn't appear as though there is much after that. again, i don;t know your bench guys, so you may have reinforcements there.

overall...hitting will be in top half. unfortunately, the lack of quality depth at SP will torpedo that pitching staff IMO. wins and k's very tough. might do a little better in ratios.

with all that said...who the hell knows. it's feb and anything can and will happen this season.

again, thanks for sharing

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Re: ROI

Post by Deadheadz » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:13 pm

Glenneration X wrote:Curious if that's Greg Holland or Derek Holland for the Trout team.

I'm going to assume Derek based on how you listed your pitchers from starters to closers. If I'm correct, both Childs and Semsel might have to relook at their analysis.

I'm in the same league, it's Derek not Greg. Melancon was the closer on the 4/5 turn.
Am I out of line for sharing this info? I don't want to show bad etiquette.


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Re: ROI

Post by cfolson » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:38 pm

For someone who hasn't cashed in the NFBC (or any other high stakes competition?) godship is a high position to claim.

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