Prizes To Go Out On Friday

[Quack]

well done...just missing the initial missed committed dates for payment from Stats employees

[DOUGHBOYS]

well done...just missing the initial missed committed dates for payment from Stats employees

In another thread.
This one started Halloween....fittingly.

[Money]

For new readers of this thread. A condensed version....

Tom- Money on Wednesday
Gekko- It's the middle of the week
MlbBug- Jerry McGwire wants the money
Gekko- A picture of Johnny Football
Quack- Guesses it won't be Wednesday
Gekko- Last year, Oct 21 and 22
Teufel Hunden- Reminded of CDM
Tom- Friday will be the day. Priorities for acctg. Many apologies.
76erFan- A week?
Tom- Not a week
76erFan- Hopes its any day
Tom- We're only a week later than last year
DOUGHBOYS- A yearly ritual
Teufel Hunden- Later in year
Timcards- CDM paid 3 weeks ago
Lunatic- Remember, actions speak louder than words
Timcards- Agrees
Gekko- Acctg should not advertise quick payments
TimCards- Does not want sour end of season
KJ Duke- Advises priority adjustment
Roger Dorn- Reminds us that Wed is middle of the week
Timcards- Shouldn't tell us that we get money when we don't
Tom- Money goes out on Friday. Apologies
Quack- Seeks clarification
King of Queens- ALL checks?
76erfan- advises Glenn to quit winning large amounts
Tom-ALL Prizes go out Friday. Apologies.
King of Queens- Thanks and football injuries are killing me
Money- All checks because of the extra time.
Gekko- WOO HOO! It's Friday. Wants a card from KJ
Lunatic- Expects deposit. Remember, Actions speak louder......
Gekko- Should happen today
King of Queens- Update?
Money- DD expertise
Top Dawg- More DD expertise
Lunatic- Questions DD
Gekko- Bites the pillow
Teufel Hunden- Likes Gekko biting the pillow
Timcards- It'll be Monday
KJ Duke- Checks in on Acctg kids
King of Queens- Out to lunch?
KJ Duke- Drafters should make drafts a low priority
Teufel Hunden- 2.84mil=$2,500 interest
King of Queens- Not at his bank
KJ Duke- Could double that
Tom- No delays on large checks. More apologes
TimCards- Credits Tom on his passive aggressiveness
Tom- Nobody wants the money sent more than he or Greg
(personal comment- after reading this thread...I don't think so)
KJ Duke- WHY?
Tom- Can't answer for his bosses
TimCards- Tired of time frame moving
Anpyanks- Does not understand negative responses
KJ Duke- Wants what is right
Lunatic- Actions speak louder.......
TimCards- Anpyanks sounds like Apple boy
Money- Tomorrow will be Christmas
Quack- Wants process completed today
Money- Believes
DOUGHBOYS- Did prizes go out?
KJ Duke- Not here
Quack- Or here
Gekko- Coal in stockings?
Money- If so, Houston has a problem (besides flooding)
Teufel Hunden- No Santa Claus
Lunatic- Remember, Actions....
Teufel Hunden- Indirect deposits
Quack- It's not coming SAT OR Sun
Lunatic- Checks account. Nope...
Gekko- Lies?
Lunatic- Laughing atSTATS incompetence
Quack- How many DD's were sent?
Gekko- Hopes newbies aren't reading
Teufel Hunden- Thinks Tom meant another Friday
Lunatic- STATS acctg with a deadline?
Sebadiah23- Wants a hamburger on Tuesday
King of Queens- Mailed DD's, sent out checks?
Quack- Gives over/under
Gekko- Monday at earliest
Gekko- Shows $.00 balance at Chase
Quack- Anyone receive a DD?
Gekko- Sends funny pictures
Teufel Hunden- Comments on one picture
Cocktails and Dreams- Wants insurance included with time lapse
Timcards- Starts rumors
Timcards- Wants National coverage
Teufel Hunden- Sees Tom on NFFC Boards
Tom- Prizes going out. Greg later
Money- Is tired of checking his account
Lunatic- Calls BS
Teufel Hunden- Thinks Tom could be President
Lunatic- Calls smoke screen
Quack- Astonished at missing target dates
MLBBug doesn't want anybody pissing on his back
Quack- Waiting for confirmation
TimCards- Tom's quotes are crap
TimCards- Bring on Greg. Tired of Tom
Sebadiah23- Believes in Hans Solo
KJ Duke- Say hi to slick Willie in acctg
Lunatic- Kennedy killed, Hoffa buried, Clinton got blow job on Friday
TParsons- Greg and Tom get verbal blow job
KJ Duke- STATS execs= Don Knotts
TParsons- Overpromise, underdeliver
Teufel Hunden- Agrees on blowjobs
Lunatic- Actions....
Quack- Greg or first check first?
QUACK- sOMEBODY CUDDA GOT A CHECK
Madcow sez- Which Friday?
Timcards- Gets execs names
Timcards- Won't deal with Greg/Tom on Monday
yah mule- Spike Lee'ing?
Timcards- More exec info
Timcards- Fantasy tiny to STATS execs
Gekko- Regretted this in the past

This had the feeling of Fantasy Camp, nice recap Dan.

In reality I think that any of us that have been around know in our hearts that we're getting paid, I've never questioned that, the only thing I wanted was the timing. The payments will go out to many people and everyone needs or has plans for the money they are to receive. No matter what anyone's needs and or wants are for the money is irrelevant. It's just important to be able to know when to expect it.

Greg has earned and deserves a lot of rope here that we're not giving to him, including me to a certain point. Its time to back off and believe in the process and reevaluate next week. I sincerely believe answers and earnings are coming next week. I also believe that Greg is just caught up in corporate, political red tape. I am somewhat embarrassed to be a part of this because I believe that some have taken it too far.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I believe it'll work out, Joe.
Heck, I can't blame folks for being upset.
We're talking real money. Earned money.
And when something is promised, especially by those trusted, people will be upset.

At the same time, Krause, Fanball, and STATS all have one thing in common. They cannot be trusted near as much as we trust Greg/Tom.
And when they (STATS) blame their 'largeness' or 'priorities', it only fans the flames.
Big companies just don't get customers, do they?

I believe this will end soon with Deposits and checks going out and the draft room opening soon after.
When that happens, everything will start to go back to normal and we can start talking about baseball execs, not STATS execs.

[DOUGHBOYS]

Yep,probably a Fantasy Camp to come later...

[DOUGHBOYS]

Since I'm yammering on and on...

I know I don't think like most, so be nice

I feel STATS method of payments over the years has been ass backwards.
Big winners should be paid two or three days after the season is finished (allow that time frame for confirmation of winnings).
That would get US excited.
This would send a message to all, that the whales have been paid and that payments will be coming soon for all others.

[Greg Ambrosius]

I apologize for being off the boards this weekend as I'm at the Arizona Fall League Symposium. I haven't read all of the posts, but I've certainly heard what is going on here in the last day.

I've been a guest speaker at the AFL Symposium each year since 2002, which covers all 12 years of the NFBC. I think this is only the second time that I've been out here that we haven't paid prizes in full by this time. The other time was 2010 when we were with Fanball because CDM usually took 6 weeks to pay and they didn't want to pay one contest (NFBC) before the others. I remember the firestorm during my time out here.

It's no fun being out here and seeing great customers like Dave Potts and know that he still hasn't deposited our winnings from 2015 yet. Usually that is all done.

Our goal is always to get these out 3 weeks after the season and this year we learned that would be delayed by one week. Getting them all out last week including Direct Deposits which save several days would have worked. I see that many checks went out Friday, including those to Glenn Schroter, Chad Schroeder and other overall champs. More than a million dollars in prize checks went out on Friday, but we have another $1.8 million going out early this week.

I wish we had done the Direct Deposits first and then 25-30% of you would have had cash in hand first and the firestorm would have been concentrated to the fact that we had that one week delay. Now it's additional days plus one week. I'll request again to get Direct Deposits to the front of the line, but of course hopefully everything remaining goes out right away.

You certainly have a right to vent. Blame, me, Tom or anyone else involved here. Take your frustration out on the NFBC. The Customer is King. We know that.

But all we care about right now is making sure these last $1.8 million in prizes goes out to the hundreds of owners still waiting for them as soon as possible. Again, over 25% are getting them via Direct Deposits this year, which we didn't allow last year. Hopefully that makes up some time.

And in the future we need the Player Accounts that drop these winnings into your accounts shortly after the season and you manage those winnings the way you want, including asking for Direct Deposit or checks. Most of you see how easily that is handled with DFS companies and want us to do the same. We know that.

We are telling you everything we know about payments going out and will continue to do that. Tom will update prizes going out tomorrow and hopefully Friday's checks arrive to our big winners tomorrow in the mail. Congrats all and SORRY for this year's delay.

[Timcards]

Greg,
So you can't guarantee that Direct Deposits will go out Monday, only request that they get "closer to the front of the line"?

The only reason I did Direct Deposit is because with every other company you get the money quicker than checks. Sounds like that's not the case here. But the big money winners will get their money first! How wonderful

[MadCow Sez]

The issue isn't so much the timing as it is the continued stream of misinformation, missed deadlines, and ambiguous at best answers.

You would be much better served by putting a line in the sand that you know will be easily achievable (like 1 December) and then beating that deadline than promising one date, then another, then another. Bragging about the swiftest payouts in the industry and then creating 6 pages of skepticism on the message boards due to missed deadlines and delays is poor form. Beating earns bragging rights...not shifting the deadline multiple times.

I feel that the constant shifting of deadlines w/o information was disrespectful of the paying customers. Telling us upfront that you have a major audit going on and that there will be delays as a result would have been a better solution. Water under the bridge now.

I did DD because I thought it would be the swifter way of seeing payment. I can see now that was a mistake that merely increased my risk of financial exposure while not resulting in the temporal advantage I thought it would provide.

Communication with the customers is the key to success in a niche market. My impression is the customers have not been communicated with. I will consider it a pleasant surprise now when I get paid...."surprise" should never be a word used in these forums in this subject.

[Timcards]

The issue isn't so much the timing as it is the continued stream of misinformation, missed deadlines, and ambiguous at best answers.

You would be much better served by putting a line in the sand that you know will be easily achievable (like 1 December) and then beating that deadline than promising one date, then another, then another. Bragging about the swiftest payouts in the industry and then creating 6 pages of skepticism on the message boards due to missed deadlines and delays is poor form. Beating earns bragging rights...not shifting the deadline multiple times.

I feel that the constant shifting of deadlines w/o information was disrespectful of the paying customers. Telling us upfront that you have a major audit going on and that there will be delays as a result would have been a better solution. Water under the bridge now.

I did DD because I thought it would be the swifter way of seeing payment. I can see now that was a mistake that merely increased my risk of financial exposure while not resulting in the temporal advantage I thought it would provide.

Communication with the customers is the key to success in a niche market. My impression is the customers have not been communicated with. I will consider it a pleasant surprise now when I get paid...."surprise" should never be a word used in these forums in this subject.

+1,000

[TOXIC ASSETS]

I really don't understand why everyone is all worked up about getting paid. I think Greg and Tom have always paid in a timely manner. If I was them, I'd tell you guys that money will be in hand by Thanksgiving so when it comes before that you will be appreciative of the quick payouts. I'm thankful I have a place to play where I know I'M GETTING PAID and don't have to concern myself with not getting paid. I play high stakes football at another site and its promised to get paid by the super bowl which is about six weeks after the season and it always comes before then and everyone is always happy and not complaining like a bunch of old women like you guys are doing. You can respond and tell me I'm an idiot and that's fine cause this will be my only post so have at it. Maybe you guys can go play at WCOFF next year and tell me how you feel at the end of the season.

As I was a money donator again in 2015 I will chime in with no dog in the race. The money for these contests was collected in some cases almost a year ago. The season ended more than a month ago. The money should have been paid the day after the season ended. In many cases it's as simple as hitting a button and transferring the money.

Without ever meeting Greg or Tom I can tell you that these guys are straight shooters. Unfortunately the same can't be said of 'corporate'. STATS: Pay up. With all of the BS going on in DFS, and the threat of regulation, you would think that corporate would have figured it out by now.

[Ichiban]

I agree with my bud Mad Cow that if things had been communicated better, this wouldn't have been that big a deal. Still, for the most part NFBC has paid quickly and it's been the best run contest there is, so I have full faith we'll get the money soon, and I'm willing to give Greg and Co a pass this time. Getting customer accounts set up would be super, but whatever the case, I think what Dan said is spot on: under-promising and over delivering is definitely the way to go... ;-()

[Lunatic]

So, let me understand, the big winners get paid first and the lower winners last? In addition, the comment, if you go direct deposit, you'll get your money quicker is a bold face lie? Watch how much I spend in 2016; I'll spend more at CDM, oh, by the way, they paid their customers in a week this year and last year. See ya

[Quack]

Greg, please keep us posted on the status of the Direct Deposits going out hopefully today (Monday), as hopefully this doesn't linger longer.

Thanks

[mlbbug]

Why didn't the direct deposits go out first? I thought the whole idea behind choosing the direct deposit format was so that we would get paid faster than those who chose to be paid by check. Now we are told that Greg will try to move direct deposits to the front of the line .That sure sounds to me like direct deposits are not getting any priority here. Why were we told to use the direct deposit format in the first place if they are not being paid first? Sorry Greg and Tom but this whole situation was handled very poorly this year.

[Lunatic]

Oh, and banks are closed on Wednesday for Veterans Day; so, if no DD tomorrow, there will be none Wednesday which brings us to Thursday; The Dec 1st comment is what STATS should have said; how much interest does STATS make off the money being held???

[Timcards]

Oh, and banks are closed on Wednesday for Veterans Day; so, if no DD tomorrow, there will be none Wednesday which brings us to Thursday; The Dec 1st comment is what STATS should have said; how much interest does STATS make off the money being held???

Surely, the money will be sent today or tomorrow. Is there any other possible excuse?

[Tom Kessenich]

Direct deposits have been released and should be in bank accounts tomorrow as JP Morgan needs a day to process them.

[Money]

Direct deposits have been released and should be in bank accounts tomorrow as JP Morgan needs a day to process them.

This is the post we've been waiting for! Thanks for the update Tom.

[ToddZ]

Direct deposit received - thanks guys.

I know how hard you've been working making sure the NFBC and NFFC will be around for years to come while having to deal with this other stuff out of your control.

[Quack]

Direct Deposit received...thanks to getting this over the hurdle guys! Thank you!

[Lunatic]

No Direct Deposit received; now I'll get the message no form received, can't wait.

[Lunatic]

Especially since I have to send the f'kng form in every f'kng year!!!

[Money]

Christmas morning has arrived!! Thanks!

[Gekko]